国外主题：哪个国家更适合移民 - 加拿大还是德国?
Which country is better to immigrate to - Canada or Germany?
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网友：请注意，以下是我个人对这两个国家的看法。我已经在德国生活了大约6年。我的兄弟和他的家人住在加拿大。根据个人的观点，这两个国家都有优点和缺点。我是印度人，所以以下是我对这两个国家的看法.......
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Which country is better to immigrate to - Canada or Germany?
哪个国家更适合移民——加拿大还是德国?
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Thanks for the A2A.
Please note that the following is my personal view of both the countries. I am living in Germany for the last ~6 years. My brother lives in Canada with his family. Of the 2 countries, there are pros n cons depending on one’s perspective. I am Indian, so following is my take on these 2 countries.
Both countries offer :
High standard of living,
Safe culture and society,
Growth opportunities for those willing to work for it,
Work life balance,
Melting pot of different cultures,
Social security,
Health coverage with good facilities,
感谢你的提问。
请注意，以下是我个人对这两个国家的看法。我已经在德国生活了大约6年。我的兄弟和他的家人住在加拿大。根据个人的观点，这两个国家都有优点和缺点。我是印度人，所以以下是我对这两个国家的看法。
这两个国家都提供：
高标准的生活水平，
安全的文化和社会环境，
为那些愿意为之努力的人提供成长机会，
工作与生活的平衡，
不同文化的大熔炉，
社会保障，
拥有良好设施的医疗保险;
Possibility to have Canada PR before moving there,
English language,
Familiar culture,
Lower tax rates,
Familiar food and festivals,
Jobs are not dependent on the language,
Proximity to USA,
Strong community ties,
The only major challenge I can think of is : Harsh winters.
(I am sure some will have more -ve points, but as I said earlier, this is what I choose to look at).
移民到加拿大的好处：
在移居之前有可能获得加拿大永久居民身份，
英语语言，
熟悉的文化，
较低的税率，
熟悉的食物和节日，
工作不依赖于语言，
靠近美国，
强大的社区联系，
我能想到的唯一主要挑战是：严寒的冬天。
（我相信有些人会有更多负面观点，但正如我之前所说，这是我选择关注的内容）。
Work life balance,
Proximity to all the major European countries (I love to travel),
Lower cost of living,
Limited inflation,
Awesome public transport and cheap,
Process based visa process,
No subjectivity when applying for Blue card or German PR,
Very strong employee laws,
Very strong tenant laws,
Cheaper real estate,
Manageable winters,
Very genuine and helpful n trust worthy people,
The only major challenge is the language
移民到德国的好处：
工作与生活的平衡，
靠近所有主要的欧洲国家（我喜欢旅行），
较低的生活成本，
有限的通货膨胀，
很棒且便宜的公共交通，
基于流程的签证程序，
申请蓝卡或德国永久居民时没有主观性，
非常强大的员工法律，
非常强大的租户法律，
房产便宜，
可控的冬天
人们非常真诚、乐于助人和值得信赖
唯一的主要挑战是语言。
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Best wishes for the future!!
EDIT : Tax Rates in Germany v/s Canada :
A lot of the readers have shared their feedback that tax rates in Canada are comparable to Germany (or according to some, lower than Germany). For all of those, the 2019 highest personal income tax rates for both countries are :
Germany : 42% for income above 56k per annum,
Canada : 15% for first 47.6k and 20.5% for the next 47.6k (that is a cumulative salary of ~95.2k per annum).
In addition to above in Germany, there is a Solidarity Tax and Church Tax (only for Christians).
I hope this clarifies the topic of tax rates being similar/lower in Canada and Germany.
哪个国家更适合移民：你自己决定。。
祝你未来一切顺利！
编辑：德国与加拿大的税率对比：
很多读者分享了他们的反馈，称加拿大的税率与德国相当（或根据一些人的说法，低于德国）。对于所有这些人，2019年两国的最高个人所得税率如下：
德国：年收入超过56,000欧元的部分税率为42%，
加拿大：前面的47,600加元的税率为15%，之后的47,600加元的税率为20.5%（累计年收入约为95,200加元）。
此外，在德国，还有团结税和教会税（仅限于基督徒）。
我希望这能澄清加拿大和德国的税率相似/更低的话题。
Many factors need to be considered. Let’s break them down.
Combined benefits of these countries:
Excellent healthcare systems
High standards of living
Robust education systems
Diverse and welcoming cultures
Job opportunities
需要考虑的因素有很多，让我们来分析一下。
这些国家的共同好处：
优秀的医疗保健系统
高标准的生活水平
健全的教育系统
多样化且包容的文化
工作机会
Universal healthcare coverage for all residents and citizens
A high standard of living
A strong economy and low unemployment rates
A welcoming and diverse culture
Access to high-quality education
Environmental protection and sustainable living
Outdoor activities, such as hiking, skiing, and camping
A safe and peaceful society, with low crime rates and a strong social safety net
加拿大提供了什么？
为所有居民和公民提供全民医疗保险
高标准的生活水平
强劲的经济和低失业率
包容且多元化的文化
获得高质量教育的机会
环境保护和可持续生活
户外活动，如徒步、滑雪和露营
社会安全和平，犯罪率低，社会保障网强大
Canada offers immigration programs, Express Entry being the most popular program, processing PR applications within 6 months.
Other popular pathways include the Provincial Nominee Programs, the Quebec Skilled Worker Program, and the Atlantic Immigration Pilot Program. These programs are designed to attract skilled workers, entrepreneurs, and investors.
Canada has the Global Talent Stream through which you can move to Canada as a skilled worker within two weeks!
移民项目：
加拿大提供移民项目，最受欢迎的是快速通道（Express Entry）项目，可以在6个月内处理永久居民申请。
其他受欢迎的途径包括省提名项目、魁北克技术工人项目和大西洋移民试点项目。这些项目旨在吸引技术工人、企业家和投资者。
通过全球人才流（Global Talent Stream），你可以在两周内以技术工人的身份移居加拿大！
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Strong economy and job market
High standard of living and social benefits
Excellent healthcare system
Affordable education and many free universities
Excellent public transportation systems
Rich culture and history
Access to travel and explore Europe
德国提供了什么？
强大的经济和就业市场
高标准的生活水平和社会福利
优秀的医疗保健系统
负担得起的教育和许多免费的大学
优秀的公共交通系统
丰富的文化和历史
旅行和探索欧洲的机会
Germany also has various immigration. The most popular program is the Skilled Immigration Act, which is designed to hire workers from non-EU countries. You can find job opportunities in fields such as IT, healthcare, engineering, and research.
Another program is the Blue Card program, which is for highly qualified workers and offers a fast track to permanent residence. There are also programs for entrepreneurs and investors, such as the German Startup Visa and the Entrepreneur Visa.
Germany also has programs for international students to study and work in the country after graduation.
Both countries have their pros and cons, so now the ball is in your court. Identify your needs, career goals, and more carefully as this can change the course of your future.
Good Luck!
Reach out to me for expert guidance.
移民项目：
德国也有各种移民项目。最受欢迎的项目是技术移民法案，旨在从非欧盟国家招聘工人。你可以在IT、医疗保健、工程和研究等领域找到工作机会。
另一个项目是蓝卡项目，适用于高素质工人，并提供快速通道到永久居留。也有针对企业家和投资者的项目，比如德国创业签证和企业家签证。
德国还为国际学生提供在毕业后在该国学习和工作的项目。
两个国家都有各自的利弊，所以现在就看你的了。确定你的需求，职业目标，更仔细，因为这可能会改变你的未来。
祝你好运！
如果你需要专业指导，请与我联系。
I am a naturalized Canadian of East Asian origin, and have lived in Germany, as well as both the English- and the French-speaking parts of Canada. Though Germany seems a nice place to visit and stay for a while, I would definitely prefer my own country or some other European countries, such as the UK, France, and the Netherlands, to Germany. Here are a few of my reasons.
It is much much easier for a visible minority like me to integrate into the Canadian society and succeed. Canada is known for its official multiculturalism, and makes great efforts to ensure that new immigrants embrace Canadian culture and become a part of it while still being able to retain their roots. Even long before I became a citizen, I was never asked questions like “How long are you going to stay in our country?” or “Are you going back to your country later?”. Many people would just assume that I was already a part of Canada. But I can’t say the same thing for Germany. I’ve heard too many stories from second-generation immigrants who were born and raised in Germany and spoke impeccable German that they did not feel well accepted by the German society and constantly felt like outsiders.
In general, I find Canadians are a lot more pleasant and easier to make friends with for me. I’m not saying that Germans are not nice. I just find them too reserved and a bit inapproachable. And I also find them to be less international as a people than Canadians are, so it was hard for me to befriend Germans. Seems to me that they only care about foreign cultures from the Anglosphere, that’s all. Cultures from the other countries, ok but not interested. When I was there, most of my friends were people from other countries. Canadians, however, tend to be more open to making friends with foreign immigrants. Both Anglo- and Franco-Canadians alike.
我是一个归化的东亚裔加拿大人，在德国生活过，也在加拿大的英语和法语区生活过。虽然德国似乎是一个不错的旅游和短期居住地，但我肯定更喜欢我的祖国或一些其他欧洲国家，比如英国、法国和荷兰。以下是我的一些理由。
对于像我这样的有色人种来说，融入加拿大社会并取得成功要容易得多。加拿大以其官方的多元文化政策而闻名，并且会做出巨大努力确保新移民在接受加拿大文化的同时，也能够保留自己的文化根源。即使在我成为公民之前，我也从未被问过“你打算在我们的国家待多久？”或者“你以后会回你的国家吗？”之类的问题。许多人只是假设我已经是加拿大的一部分。但我不能说德国也是一样的情况。我听过太多第二代移民的故事，他们在德国出生和长大，德语说得无懈可击，但他们并不觉得自己被德国社会所接受，总是感觉像外来者。
总的来说，我发现加拿大人对我来说更加友好，更容易交朋友。我并不是说德国人不好。我只是觉得他们太保守，有点难以接近。而且我也觉得他们比加拿大人更不国际化，所以对我来说很难与德国人交朋友。在我看来，他们只关心来自英语圈的外国文化，其他国家的文化，不错，但不感兴趣。当我在那里的时候，我的大部分朋友都是来自其他国家的人。然而，加拿大人往往更愿意与外国移民交朋友，无论是英语区加拿大人还是法语区加拿大人。
You have to be “white” in Germany,from “top" countries in the world to not be ignored by Germans in 21th century! I have dark skin,black hair,after a year I am running from all Germans and Germany! Even if I see them in other countries,I try to keep distance from them. I am a doctor,in Germany to treat german patient s but they treat me like shit, as I am there to hurt them. On steet, in Supermarkt they look me like they have seen alian from planet X! Most of them racists and antisocial. If you have dark skin go to Canada!
在21世纪的德国，你必须是“白人”，来自世界“顶尖”国家，才不会被德国人忽视！我是深色皮肤，黑发，一年后我逃离了所有德国人和德国！即使在其他国家看到他们，我也尽量与他们保持距离。我是一名医生，在德国治疗德国病人，但他们却像对待垃圾一样对待我，好像我是来伤害他们的。在街上，在超市，他们看我就像看到了外星来客！他们大多数人都是种族主义者和反社会的。如果你是深色皮肤，就去加拿大吧！
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Both the countries are good for immigration but depends on what is your reason for moving. If you are looking for higher education Germany offers many interesting courses at low costs.
But for a job, I choose to apply to Canada because of the long term benefits that come with permanent residence. Quality healthcare system, free public education system along with plenty of social care facilities like maternity and disability perks
These reasons make Canada the best choice for living and working.Both the countries have their own strengths in terms of their immigration policies. Canada focuses more on the economic part by calling more skilled professionals under in-demand professions.
In many public universities of Germany overseas students do not need to pay tuition fees. Global giants like Volkswagen, BMW, Siemens, Deutsche Bank and Adidas are located in Germany. So if you think Canada is better for jobs even Germany is not far behind in that department.
If you go by the HDI or Human Development index Germany is ranked on the 9th place whereas Canada is ranked on the 15th place. Both have their own unique benefits but Canada is the most preferred choice as many of the people I personally know have chosen Canada.
Study each of these countries and research about them enough. I am sure you will know which country suits you best. As you know each person speaks from their own experience. Read enough and then make your own judgment.
This way or that way choosing the right country shapes your life direction. You can even go to both these nations and see yourself just like I did. Helps more from practical experience.
这两个国家都适合移民，但取决于你搬家的原因。如果你正在寻找更高的教育，德国提供许多有趣的课程，费用低廉。
但是对于工作，我选择申请移民到加拿大，因为它提供了与永久居留相伴的长期好处。优质的医疗保健系统，免费的公共教育系统，以及丰富的社会关怀设施，如产假和残疾福利。
这些原因使加拿大成为生活和工作的最佳选择。这两个国家在移民政策方面都有自己的优势。加拿大更侧重于经济方面，呼吁更多的紧缺职业的技能专业人士移民加拿大。
德国的许多公立大学对海外学生免收学费。全球巨头如大众、宝马、西门子、德意志银行和阿迪达斯都位于德国。因此，如果你认为加拿大的就业状况更好，但是德国在这方面也不会落后太多。
如果你参考人类发展指数（HDI），德国排名第9，而加拿大排名第15。两个国家都有自己独特的优势，但加拿大是最受欢迎的选择，因为我个人认识的许多人都选择了加拿大。
对这些国家进行充分的研究。我相信你会知道哪个国家最适合你。如你所知，每个人都从自己的经历出发。充分阅读，然后做出自己的判断。
无论如何，选择正确的国家决定了你的人生方向。你甚至可以像我一样去这两个国家看看自己，实际经验更有帮助。
Which country is better to immigrate to Canada or Germany?
I have lived in both and I prefer Germany.
Careerwise Germany has a lot more opportunities and jobs. They also value your previous experience (In Canada you would start from scratch).
Quality of life is much higher in Germany and life is much cheaper.
You would have to learn German, but it's not that bad. Many people your age go there to work and after a couple of years are perfectly fluent.
加拿大或德国，哪个国家更适合移民?
我在这两个国家都生活过，我更喜欢德国。
从职业角度来看，德国有更多的机会和工作。他们也重视你的先前经验（在加拿大你可能要从零开始）。
德国的生活质量要高得多，而且生活成本也便宜得多。
你需要学习德语，但这并不糟糕。很多和你同龄的人去那里工作，几年后就能说一口流利的德语。
There are many nice things being mentioned about Germany which are very accurate. But as being the child of a black foreigner in Germany and living here all my life, I wouldnt recommend coming here. German people aren't all terrible but there are many elderly people who will never accept you. After many years of living here my dad still does not feel accepted. After 20 years he never really got to feel fully integrated. It gets harder and harder every day. German laws and rules come in very big amounts and are very difficult to understand for some people. It especially gets hard if u don't get the right support. What I'm trying to say is that there are many wonderful things here and many benefits to help you live an easy life but those things are very hard to achieve without any type of support or knowledge. I only recommend coming here if you are financially prepared or well acquainted with the laws here.
And to answer the question lol me as a German citizen who isn't fully white would rather immigrate to Canada than Germany because I'm so tired of this country and their stupid laws. If u don't fully understand them they'll only hurt you so watch out
关于德国有很多正面的描述，这些都是非常准确的。但作为在德国长大的黑人外国人的孩子，我并不推荐来这里。德国人并不都是坏人，但有很多老年人永远不会接受你。尽管在这里生活了很多年，我爸爸仍然感觉不被接受。20年过去了，他从未真正感觉到自己完全融入了社会,一天比一天难。德国的法律和规则数量庞大，对一些人来说很难理解。如果你没有得到正确的支持，事情会变得尤其困难。我想说的是，这里有很多美好的事情，很多好处可以帮助你过上轻松的生活，但如果没有任何支持或知识，这些事情是很难实现的。如果你有经济准备或熟悉这里的法律,我才推荐你来这儿。
至于回答问题，哈哈，作为一个不是完全白人的德国公民，我宁愿移民到加拿大而不是移民到德国，因为我厌倦了这个国家和他们愚蠢的法律。如果你不完全理解它们，它们只会伤害你，所以要小心。
Cannot go like processing PR in Canada. Should be through company or job seeker visa and then further to PR
Almost all big Automobile companies are in Germany , so more jobs in Engineering , Research and IT.
German language is a must , without that there is no way you land up in a job by yourself.
You are in a EU country , that makes you to visit almost 22 countries without any visa. schengen does it.
Education system is free until 18 yrs of age. You get children allowances every month around 200€ for a child.
World class public transportation , means you save lot of time in travelling. You dont need a car.
Finally It takes merely 12 to 14 hrs including transit from Frankfurt to Chennai or Bangalore. You ticket cost just 70 K INR , if you plan your in advance you get it around 45 k INR up and down. I came once via Srilankan airways to India and return for just 38 k. So you can plan visiting India twice in a year. That's really required to visit your loved ones.
不能像在加拿大处理永久居民（PR）那样直接申请。应该是通过公司或求职者签证，然后再进一步转为永久居民。
几乎所有的大型汽车公司都在德国，所以工程、研究和IT方面的工作机会更多。
是必须会德语的，不懂德语，你无法自己找到工作。
你身处一个欧盟国家，这意味着你可以免签访问近22个国家，申根区就是这样的便利。
18岁以前的教育是免费的，每个月都有孩子津贴，一个孩子大约200欧元。
世界级的公共交通，意味着你可以在旅行中节省大量时间，你不需要汽车。
最后，从法兰克福到金奈或班加罗尔的中转只需要12到14个小时。你的机票费用大约是7万印度卢比，如果你提前计划，大约4.5万卢比可以实现往返。我曾经通过斯里兰卡航空公司去印度，往返只花了3.8万卢比。
所以你可以计划一年内去印度两次，去看望你爱的人是必须的。
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