网友讨论：日本经济出人意料的陷入了衰退
Japan unexpectedly slips into recession
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网友：所以如果按照日元衡量，日本实际上是在增长的？但是日元持续贬值的原因又是什么呢？
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网友讨论：日本经济出人意料的陷入了衰退
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Germany is in a recession as well. The only reason it "surpassed" Japan is because of exchange-rate effects
德国也陷入了衰退，德国超过日本的唯一原因是因为汇率的影响
False. There are currently only two G7 members in a recession at present: the UK and Japan.
你说错了，七国集团现在只有两个国家陷入了衰退：日本和英国
@MileyCyrusPartyUSA I don't know what basis they have for making such a statement, but Germany is the only major G7 country with negative growth. Japan's real growth rate is 1.2%, which is higher than Germany's -0.5%.
我不知道他们这样说的依据是什么，但是德国是七国集团里面唯一出现负增长的大国，日本的实际增长率为1.2%，高于德国的-0.5%
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so Japan actually grows if measured by Yen? But Yen keeps depreciating because of what then?
所以如果按照日元衡量，日本实际上是在增长的？但是日元持续贬值的原因又是什么呢？
Japan is a great place. Any country which hasn't grown since 1995 would have riots. They don't.
如果一个国家自1995年以来一直经济停滞的话，那么他们肯定会发生暴乱。但是日本却没有出现这样的情况，所以日本是一个了不起的国家。
It's because they were ultra rich back then. That money Is still keeping them afloat.
Wait 30 more years
那是因为当时的日本非常的富裕。日本之前积攒下来的财富依然可以让他们维持生计。有本事就再等30年看看到时会发生什么。
Dr.Kay_R Japan biggest problem is not economic stagnation, but population decline. How can you have riots when there is almost zero birth rate for the past 2 decades ?
日本最大的问题不是经济停滞，而是人口减少。过去20年日本的出生率近乎为0，在这种情况，怎么发生暴乱？
China economic expansion has been following Japan blueprint, and China likely to experience the same decline like Japan for the next 2 decades
中国的经济扩张走的就是日本的老路，未来20年中国很有可能会经历和日本一样的衰退。
@martinsmith3550 that’s Korea, Japan’s birth rate is 1.34
出生率近乎为0的国家是韩国，日本出生率为1.34
@martinsmith3550 our fertility rate has been more than 1.2 for the last 2 decades. What are you talking about?
你在胡说什么？过去20年我们的出生率一直在1.2以上
@zakwanberlin Japan's birth rate is almost the same as Canada's 1,4. Yet the problem of Japan is the ageing population, more than 29,5% of 125 Million people are aged 65 or older. Japan now is short in the labour force, there is a study from Bloomberg that Japan will face an 11 million worker shortfall in 2040. According to Nikkei, over 40% of businesses let employees work until age 70, and 52% of companies a shortage of regular employees.
日本的出生率几乎和加拿大的1.4持平，但是日本的问题在于人口老龄化，在日本1.25亿的人口中，有超过29.5%的人的年纪在65或65以上。日本现在劳动力短缺，彭博的研究表明到2040年日本将面临1100万劳动力缺口。据《日经新闻》报道，超过40%的企业让员工一直工作到70岁，有52%的公司存在固定员工短缺问题。
是的，日本的经济在1995年后一直停滞不前，但这是因为日本的资产泡沫造成的，但是现在日本经济停滞不前和人口老龄化有关。
Culturally superior that’s why
因为文化的优越性，这就是为什么日本社会没有发生暴乱的原因
They have good culture
因为日本拥有优秀文化
Even as GDP shrink, they can maintain satisfactory standard of living, it's not a big problem
即便gdp萎缩，他们也能维持令人满意的生活水平，所以这不是什么大问题
Consider Singapore . No riots
想想新加坡，那里也没有发生暴乱
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@LonganLee Singapore is 100% police state mate, and no free press.
新加坡是100%的警察国家，没有新闻自由
This just proves that stocks markets don’t represent the economy. Look at the stocks market in Japan, US and even India. They are priced so high!
这只能证明股市不能反映一个国家的经济。看看日本美国甚至印度的股市吧，那里的股价实在是太高了
India at least is doing much much better in the economic department.
但至少印度在经济方面表现的要比他们好很多
100% correct stocks market do not reflect the economy at all.
100%正确，股市根本就不能反映经济情况
kitty2527 and worse, it can be easily manipulated
更糟糕的是，股市很容易被操纵
It's funny you had not mentioned China
有趣的是你竟然没有提到中国
95 percent of stock market participants are the affluent folks
股市里面95%的玩家都是有钱人
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Unexpected? Not for me
意料之外的经济衰退？对我来说一点都不意外
Same here. I was laughing when I saw the word "unexpected".
我也这样认为。当我看到意料之外这个词时，我都笑了
lol. Japan has always been in recession since the 90s.
哈哈，自上世纪90年代以来，日本一直处于衰退之中
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Japan was doing ok from q1 to q3 of 2023 and people were hype about how Japan is finally getting inflation going and positive GDP growth rate, but then Japan fall back to minus GPD growth in q4, that's why they said unexpected
2023年第一季度到第三季度，日本的表现还可以，当时人们大肆宣传日本终于出现了通货膨胀和gdp正增长，但是到了第四季度日本的gdp增速又掉到了0以下，这就是为什么他们说日本出现了意外之外的经济衰退的原因。
unlike American. Japanese will cut consumption when inflation went up. they don't load up with credit card debt.
和美国人不同的是，当通货膨胀上升时，日本人会削减消费开支。他们不会背负信用卡债务。
Just like American, Japanese going through tough times. We all going through tough times!
就像美国人一样，日本人正在经历艰难时刻。我们所有人都在经历艰难时刻。
Japan national debt is literally double that of America
日本的国债规模是美国的两倍
I remember when $1usd was like 90 yen. It’s over 150 now. Japan has never been cheaper
我还记得之前1美元相当于90日元左右，但是现在美元和日元的汇率已经超过了150。日本（物价）从未像现在这样便宜过。
Japan should have been the number 1 economy in the 80s, but they were stopped by the US.
上世纪80年代日本本来是应该可以成为世界最大经济体的，但是却被美国阻止了。
Their advantages at the time were not sustainable.
他们当时的优势是不可持续的
Japan and the UK. At the same time.
日本和英国同时陷入了衰退
Germany China
还有德国和中国
@armindasigel6387 No china.
中国没有陷入衰退
Unexpectedly??? You're joking!!!
日本陷入意料之外的衰退？你在开什么玩笑
Does this mean good travel deals in Japan for travelers? I’ve wanted to go for years
这是不是说现在去日本旅游会很划算呢？这么多年来我一直想去日本旅游。
I feel sorry for the Japanese people.
我为日本人民感到难过
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"china is collapsing". china became the largest car exporter and widening its trade surplus.
Meanwhile japan faces yet another lost decade and the media rarely talk about it
中国成为世界最大汽车出口国，贸易顺差不断扩大，但是媒体却说中国正在崩溃
而与此同时，日本面临着又一个失去的十年，但是媒体却极少对此进行报道。
I just got back from Japan 3 days ago. I was in Osaka for a week. Very expensive. Food. Clothes. 10 min taxi ride cost me $40. Everything is expensive.
我三天前刚刚从日本回来。我在大阪呆了三天。不管是衣服还是食品，都非常昂贵。10分钟的出租车花了我40美元。所有一切的价格都很贵。
I took a 10 minute ride today near Tokyo and it was around 2800 yen. That’s like $20. The way back was around the same. You probably got ripped off.
我今天在东京附近坐了10分钟的出租车，大约花了2800日元，相当于20美元左右。返程的价格也差不多。你有可能是被骗了。
Food is cheap. Stop taking taxis.
日本的食品是很便宜的，但是不要坐出租车。
Dude taxis are ridiculously expensive in Japan. You can easily find cheap food and clothes in local shops but you'd need to speak some Japanese.
日本的出租车贵的离谱。你可以很容易在当地商店找到便宜的衣服和食品，但是你需要会说一些日语。
Im japanese, and I feel we've always been in recession
我是日本人，我觉得我们一直处于经济衰退之中
I wouldnt say unexpectedly. the world economy has been in a recession since at least 2020.
我不认为这是什么意料之外的事情。至少从2020年开始世界经济就处于衰退之中了。
Japan needs to buy gold and other precious metals!
日本需要购买黄金和其他的贵金属
Japan, Uk and Germany all in recession lol
日本英国德国都处于衰退之中，哈哈