据说俄罗斯每月建造“至少”100 辆主战坦克，我们西方应该怎么办？
What should we know about Russia building "at least" 100 main battle tanks a month?
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目前，美国每月只能生产约12辆M-1艾布拉姆斯坦克。
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At this point, the United States is only capable of producing about 12 M-1 Abrams tanks a month. Meanwhile, Russia is rolling 100 tanks off the assembly line per month. Some may rightfully argue that the M-1 Abrams is a more sophisticated tank than newer variants of the T-72. However, quantity has a quality all of its own. Russia is producing 8 tanks for every American one. For as great at the M-1 Abrams is, a single tank would not be able to take on 8 T-72s.
目前，美国每月只能生产约12辆M-1艾布拉姆斯坦克。与此同时，俄罗斯每月有100辆坦克下线。有些人可能会正确地认为M-1艾布拉姆斯坦克比T-72的新型号更先进。
然而，数量本身就有质量。美国生产一辆坦克俄罗斯生产八辆。尽管M-1艾布拉姆斯坦克性能出色，但一辆坦克无法对抗8辆T-72。
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Thank God, they're building up their production, Ukraine could use more captured Russian tanks. Thanks Russia for being one of the biggest suppliers on Russia's war with Ukraine.
感谢上帝，他们正在增加产量，乌克兰可以使用更多缴获的俄罗斯坦克。感谢俄罗斯成为俄罗斯与乌克兰战争的最大供应商之一。
Hey now, don’t knock Russia. They have the second best military in Ukraine.
嘿，现在，不要抨击俄罗斯。他们的军队在乌克兰排名第二。
It sounds like Ukraine really isn’t doing as well as the jokes suggest. Ever since the counteroffensive petered out, they’ve been struggling to hold ground.
听起来乌克兰确实没有笑话所说的那么好。自从反攻逐渐结束后，他们就一直在努力守住阵地。
You do know that this was true in 2023, but isn’t any longer, right?
The big numbers of captured tanks came from the failed Kiyv offensive, and the two succesful Ukrainian ones. Since the conclusion of the Kherson operation Ukraine hasn’t managed to rout any Russian units, and thus haven’t captured significant amounts of equipment.
你知道这在2023年是真的，但现在已经不是了，对吧？
被俘的大量坦克来自失败的基辅攻势和两场成功的乌克兰攻势。自赫尔松行动结束以来，乌克兰尚未击溃任何俄罗斯部队，因此也没有缴获大量装备。
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I've heard that as well, I think they've improved at destroying Russian tanks
我也听说过，我认为他们在摧毁俄罗斯坦克方面有所进步
Yeah, SOP now is to burn every tank that’s hit if at all possible because Ukraine rarely controls the field after an engagement. So they just spend an extra FPV drone to make sure it’s a husk so that the Russians can’t tow it away for repairs.
是的，现在的标准操作是尽可能烧毁所有被击中的坦克，因为乌克兰很少在交战后控制战场。所以他们必须额外花费一架FPV无人机来确保它只剩个残骸，这样俄罗斯人就无法将它拖走进行维修。
I can’t believe that there are such a low level brain people who believe that nonsense.
我不敢相信有这么低水平的大脑的人会相信那些无稽之谈。
Cool, we don’t need to send them any more then I guess. I’ll write my Republican Congressman and inform him that Ukraine’s good and doesn’t need our help :P
很酷，我想我们不需要再送东西了。我会写信给我的共和党国会议员，告诉他乌克兰很好，不需要我们的帮助：P
The u.s nor the West has not switched to wartime economy. Currently no need. Did WW2 teach anyone anything. Do not push the u.s to the point that is has too
美国和西方都没有转向战时经济。目前不需要。二战教会了任何人什么吗。不要把我们逼到那样的地步
And most Ironically, ruSSia would not have lasted 2 years without US ability to scale up production, and the BRITIsh and American lend lease! But they are programmed to believe they won the war all by them selves. And consider that 65% of what we shipped in lend lease to Russia, went to the bottom of the ocean. So they only received 35% of what we built and shipped, and even those numbers are staggering!
最具讽刺意味的是，如果没有美国扩大生产的能力，以及英国和美国的租借法案，俄罗斯就不会坚持两年！但他们被洗脑为相信自己赢得了这场战争。
想想看，我们向俄罗斯租借的货物中，65%都掉到了海底。所以他们只收到了我们建造和运输的35%，甚至这些数字也令人震惊！
You overestimated the role of Lend-Lease in the Soviet unx and underestimated the losses in World War II.
The United States provided assistance to the Soviet unx with 7,172 tanks, approximately 10,000 artillery pieces, and approximately 11,000 aircraft. This does seem like a large amount.
However, during World War II, the Soviet unx produced 105,251 tanks, 516,648 artillery pieces, and 162,728 aircraft. U.S. aid accounted for only a tiny fraction of the equipment used by the Soviet unx.
In fact, Allied aid played a very limited role in the Soviet unx's victory over Germany. These data can be found in the Harvard University report. Don’t stop your understanding in the propaganda of “America saves the world”.
你高估了租借法案对苏联的作用，也低估了二战的损失。
美国向苏联援助了7172辆坦克，约10000门火炮、约11000架飞机。这看起来数量确实很大。
但是二战中，苏联自己生产了105251辆坦克、516648门火炮、162728架飞机。美国援助只占苏联使用装备的极少部分。
实际上盟军的援助对苏联战胜德国起到的作用很有限，这些数据都可以在哈佛大学的报告中查询到。不要把自己的认知停留在“美国拯救世界”的宣传上。
All these Chinese and Russian trolls are under the assumption that the u.s cannot mass produce anymore which is a fatal error on their part. It is actually American can doctrine that as soon as we shift to a wartime economy every shuttered factory across the country comes to life in a matter of weeks with a complete retrofit. Every current factory also switches to military supply. Oh you make bedpans now you make helmets, oh you makes nuts and bolts you now make bullets and so on. Every factory would be working triple shifts and pumping out more equipment than you could imagine.
所有这些中国和俄罗斯的巨魔都认为美国无法再大规模生产，这对他们来说是一个致命的错误。事实上，美国人可以相信，一旦我们转向战时经济，全国各地每一个关闭的工厂都会在几周内通过全面改造而恢复生机。当前的每个工厂也都转向军用供应。哦，你制造便盆，现在你制造头盔，哦，你制造螺母和螺栓，你现在制造子弹等等。每家工厂都会实行三班制，生产的设备数量超乎你的想象。
There arent any shuttered factories. They have been raised and Wallmarts built on top of them.
没有任何关闭的工厂。它们已经消失了，沃尔玛就建在它们的上面。
False sir I live in a town with a bunch of shuttered factories. This whole country is littered with them.
假的先生，我住在一个有很多工厂倒闭的小镇上。整个国家到处都是。
They are every where, look at detroit for example hundreds of empty factory buildings just waiting for industry
他们无处不在，以底特律为例，数百座空置的工厂大楼正等待着工业的发展
You watch too many movies. They are called buildings. There is no equipment inside of them to build anything. Anything of value is long gone.
In your imagination, there are many factories that are out of production, with machines covered with white cloth, ready to start working at any time.
In fact, these factories are empty, with no machines or materials. What's more, workers from decades ago are old or dead. Young people are abusing drugs and dancing in front of their mobile phones. Do you expect Wall Street investors, lawyers and dentists to become workers overnight and launch large-scale tank production?
你看的电影太多了。它们被称为建筑物。他们里面没有设备来建造任何东西。任何有价值的东西早就不见了。
在你的想象中，美国有许多停产的工厂，里面的机器蒙着白布，随时准备开工。
实际上，这些厂房里空空如也，不但没有机器，也没有材料。更重要的是，几十年前的工人们都已经老了或者已经死去。年轻人都在滥用药物，在手机面前跳舞，你指望华尔街的投资人、律师还有牙医们一夜之间变成工人，并开展大规模的坦克生产吗？
At the onset to ww2 we had 1300 large forges in the 5,000 ton range . By the end of WW2 we has 10,000 or so. Vital for producing aircraft and armored vehicles. Today we have 4. It would take at least 3 years for the first one to be ready for use. Russia has 12,000 forges in this range. Ready to go. (China has near 50,000 and many are in the 20,000 ton range).
We cannot produce enough equipment to fight either opponent..
在第二次世界大战开始时，我们有1300个5000吨级的大型锻造机。到第二次世界大战结束时，我们有大约10000左右。对生产飞机和装甲车至关重要。今天我们有4个。下一个至少需要3年的时间才能投入使用。俄罗斯有12000个这样的锻造机，准备好了吗？中国有近5万个，许多都达到了2万吨。
我们无法生产出足够的装备来对抗任何一个对手。
The largest forge in the world is in Germany 100,000 tons. The biggest in the US is 50,000 tons in Ohio. The Russians cannot match the industrial capability of the U.S. alone, much less the other western democracies.
世界上最大的锻造机在德国，设备10万吨。美国最大的是俄亥俄州的5万吨。俄罗斯无法单独与美国的工业能力相媲美，更不用说其他西方民主国家了。
For the Russian and Chinese factories, that's where nukes come in handy.
对于俄罗斯和中国的工厂来说，这就是核武器派上用场的地方。
What should they nuke to win a conflict?
他们应该用什么武器来赢得冲突？
The US should nuke the Russian and Chinese factories in order to whittle down their military industrial capacity.
美国应该用核武器打击俄罗斯和中国的工厂，以削弱它们的军事工业能力。
Usa has thousands M1 Abramses sitting in the desert, stored for when they are needed.
美国有数千辆M1艾布拉姆斯在沙漠中，储存起来以备不时之需。
More tanks for Ukraine’s target practice. Slava Ukraine!
更多的坦克用于乌克兰的打靶练习。胜利属于乌克兰！
I have a good math problem. Russia has 500 tanks in reserve and can produce 150 per month. Ukraine can destroy 300 Russian tanks per month while the United States can destroy 400 per month. How many months will it take Ukraine to destroy all Russian tanks? How many months will it take the US?
我有一道很好的数学题。俄罗斯储备了500辆坦克，每月可生产150辆。乌克兰每月可以摧毁300辆俄罗斯坦克，而美国每月可以摧毁400辆。乌克兰需要多少个月才能摧毁所有俄罗斯坦克？美国需要几个月的时间？
That would sum up to about 3.5 months for Ukraine and 2 months for US to get rid of all 500 reserve and newly supplied tanks.
Ukraines battle statistics:
First month: 500 Reserve + 150 New - 300 Lost = 350 Tanks in reserve.
Second month: 350 Reserve + 150 New - 300 Lost = 200 Tanks in reserve.
Third month: 200 Reserve + 150 New - 300 Lost = 50 Tanks in reserve.
Fourth Month: 50 Reserve + 150 New - 300 Lost = -100 Tanks in reserve.
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US’s battle statistics:
First month: 500 Reserve + 150 New - 400 Lost = 250 tanks in reserve.
Second month: 250 Reserve + 150 New - 400 Lost = 0 tanks in reserve.
这将使乌克兰和美国分别用大约3.5个月和2个月的时间来清除所有500辆储备和新供应的坦克。
乌克兰战役统计：
第一个月：500个储备+150个新-300个损失=350个储备坦克。
第二个月：350储备+150新-300损失=200储备坦克。
第三个月：200个储备+150个新-300个损失=50个储备坦克。
第四个月：50个储备+150个新的-300个损失=-100个储备坦克。
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美国的作战统计数据：
第一个月：500个储备+150个新-400个损失=250个储备坦克。
第二个月：250个储备+150个新-400个损失=0个储备坦克。
That’s easy. Never. Because as long a 150 new tanks per month are rolling off the line, they will never be out of tanks.
这很容易。从不因为只要每月有150辆新坦克下线，它们就永远不会用完。
Great answer, although part B to the question includes supply chain management and material procurement capability…
很好的答案，尽管问题的B部分包括供应链管理和材料采购能力…
The US is not building M1 Abram's tanks a month. The build line was closed years ago. What they are doing is refurbishing older variants to the current standard.
美国无法每个月制造M1艾布拉姆的坦克。这条生产线几年前就关闭了。他们正在做的是将旧的翻新到当前的标准。
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The build line never closes, the u.s has to order roughly 10 or so tanks a year even if they don't need them to keep the factory open. Just doing repairs won't do it.
生产线从未关闭，美国每年必须订购大约10辆左右的坦克，即使他们不需要它们，也要维持工厂的运营。光修理是不行的。
The United States is making new Abrams tanks they haven't in over twenty years. How did you come up with 12 a month pavel??
美国正在制造20多年来从未有过的新型艾布拉姆斯坦克。你是怎么想出一个月12辆的？？
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Same place he learned that Russia is building 100 new tanks per month.
在同一个地方，他了解到俄罗斯每月建造100辆新坦克。
last i heard russia had 50 tanks a month produced and repaired
but it loses more than that per month
more important than the tanks though, are the crews (with low chance of survival, even it tank saves them, running back to own lines under artillery and drone fire is suicidal.
上次我听说俄罗斯每月生产和修理50辆坦克
但它每月的损失不止于此
然而，比坦克更重要的是车组人员（即使是坦克救了他们，生还几率也很低，在炮火和无人机的火力下跑回自己的战线是自杀。）
Producing, or resurecting from the dead? I'd rather say they pull damaged equipment off the battlefields, scrap away the remnants of the crew, swap some pieces of equipment, put everything back together in some, canibalizing others and at the end pretending that these are “new” tanks.
生产，还是翻新？我宁愿说，他们把损坏的装备从战场上撤下来，拆掉剩余的部分，交换一些装备，把一些装备重新组装起来，拆掉其他装备，最后假装这些是“新”坦克。
The US has thousands of m1 tanks in storage. Russia is a 3rd world crap hole and no threat to the US. No more of a threat than maybe Venezuela
美国储存了数千辆m1坦克。俄罗斯是第三世界的垃圾坑，对美国没有威胁。威胁并不比委内瑞拉更大
100 really shit tanks a month. For the WAR/INVASION of Ukraine for a turret toss competition!
一个月100辆真的很烂的坦克。为了乌克兰的战争/入侵进行炮塔炸飞比赛！
This is when American Exceptionalism becomes stupid
这就是美国例外主义变得愚蠢的时候
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Hardly. The M-1 gun has a range of 2,500 meters; the T-72, 2,000. In the first Gulf War, Coalition forces only lost 23 Abrahms tanks. In the battle of Easting, the U.S. armor was outnumbered by over 100 tanks. They lost but a single Bradley to hostile fire.
很难。 M-1火炮射程2500米；第一次海湾战争中，联军仅损失了23辆艾布拉姆斯坦克，T72损失了2000辆。在伊斯特廷战役中，美军装甲部队的数量超过了100辆坦克。他们在敌方火力下只损失了一台布雷德利装甲车。
The Iraqis were fighting with export Soviet models, with the T-72M model lacking suitable anti-tank rounds and electronics capable of taken on Abrams. Most of the Iraqi tanks were not T-72M, but older model T-55, T-54, T-62, Type 59, Type 69 that are more comparable to the M-48/ M-60. Even among the T-72M were Asad Babils, Iraqi copies of the T-72 that were inferior even to the original T-72 imported.
That is like saying the Abrams is a bad tank because it's export models get constantly taken out by slipper wearing goat herders with old Soviet RPGs and 2nd-rate Chinese export ATGMs. The Abrams is a good tank, but that does not make a T-72 a bad tank either, both being built with different doctrines in mind.
伊拉克人使用的是出口的苏联型号，T-72M缺乏合适的反坦克炮弹和能够对抗艾布拉姆斯的电子设备。而且大多数伊拉克坦克不是T-72M，而是旧型号T-55、T-54、T-62、59式、69式，与M-48/M-60更具可比性。即使在T-72M中，也有许多是Asad Babils坦克，这是T-72的伊拉克仿制品，甚至比进口的原装T-72还要差。
这就像说艾布拉姆斯是一辆糟糕的坦克一样，因为它的出口型号经常被穿着拖鞋的牧羊人用老式苏联火箭弹和二流中国出口反坦克导弹摧毁。艾布拉姆斯是一款好坦克，但这并不意味着T-72是一款糟糕的坦克，两者都是根据不同的原则建造的。
No, you would need one Abrams and two Bradley IFV’s to take on 8 T 72/80’s
不，你需要一个艾布拉姆斯和两辆布雷德利才能对付8辆T-72/80
Medvedev looking like a 1970s pimp in his leather trench coat.
梅德韦杰夫穿着皮风衣，看起来像个上世纪70年代的皮条客。
I think the reason the Americans are slowing down tank production is because they are running out out room for the thousands they all ready have
我认为美国人放慢坦克生产的原因是，他们已经没有足够的空间容纳准备好的数千辆坦克
Given how Ukraine, armed with US and other western weapons, is taking out Russian armor easily, the US could wipe out T-72s at will.
Bye bye Pavel.
鉴于乌克兰拥有美国和其他西方武器，可以轻松摧毁俄罗斯装甲部队，美国可以随意消灭T-72。
Is this 100 brand new or including refurbished one from storage?
US also has a lot of stored M1 and I presume stored in better shape than Russia as I doubt they invested much in storage conditions.
Anyway, it just show we need to continue / resume (GOP, WTF) our support to Ukraine and EU need to wake up faster to the new reality (US not fully dependable anymore and military threats higher than ever before). I see we started but are still far from it. EU will widely miss the march 1.000.000 155mm shells obxtives. Wonder if we could just purchase them from other countries (S Korea please)
这100台是全新的还是包括库存中的翻新车？
美国也有很多储存的M1，我认为储存状况比俄罗斯好，因为我怀疑他们在储存条件上投入了很多。
不管怎样，这只是表明我们需要继续/恢复我们对乌克兰的支持，欧盟需要更快地认识到新的现实（美国不再完全可靠，军事威胁比以往任何时候都更高）。我发现我们已经开始了，但距离目标还很远。欧盟将严重延误3月份生产100万枚155毫米炮弹的目标。不知道我们是否可以从其他国家购买它们（请韩国支持）
Tanks need shells. According to congressman JD Vance, Russia makes in a day what US makes in a month.
坦克需要炮弹。根据国会议员JD Vance的说法，俄罗斯一天的产量相当于美国一个月的产量。
lol there’s a difference between producing new tanks (Russian doesn’t have the economic capability at the moment) and refurbishing old falling apart tanks
哈哈，生产新坦克（俄罗斯人目前没有经济能力）和翻新破旧的坦克是有区别的
What do we need more tanks for ?
I think MBTs have shown to be less effective now in Combat with modern ATGMs
Artillery and drones probably will be the future.
我们需要更多的坦克干什么？
我认为主战坦克在与现代反坦克导弹的战斗中效果很差
火炮和无人机可能是未来的发展方向。
History has shown that the US can scale up production very fast.
历史表明，美国可以很快扩大生产规模。
It doesn’t matter how many they build. They do no good when the Russians don’t have trained crews to put in the tanks.
他们建造了多少并不重要。当俄罗斯人没有受过训练的成员来驾驶坦克时，它们就没有任何作用。
US tank production is currently not on a war footing. tank production is undertaken in the usual capitalist mindset.. They are only making what they know that they can sell.
Russia is on a war footing.
Big difference..
Russia is currently producing 80–125k rounds of ammo(artillery) per month..
USA is trying to boost 155mm production to 100k/ month (Last I saw it was 28k/mnth
Note that USA also produces 105mm ammo.. not sure what volume
美国的坦克生产目前还没有处于战争状态。坦克生产是在通常的资本主义心态下进行的。。他们只做他们知道可以卖的东西。
俄罗斯处于战争状态。
差别很大。。
俄罗斯目前每月生产8至12.5万发弹药（火炮）。
美国正试图将155毫米炮弹的产量提高到10万/月（上次我看到的是2.8万/月)。
请注意，美国也生产105毫米弹药。不确定量大小
Tanks are helicopter targets and death traps.
坦克是直升机的目标和铁棺材。
Haha, this is pure, unadulterated, propaganda.
哈哈，这是纯粹的宣传。
Yes, this is because in the age of drone warfare, tanks are nothing more than a giant, steel coffin of a target. The US is dropping most of its tanks in favor of lighter, more manuverable (and concealable) artillery.
是的，这是因为在无人机战争的时代，坦克只不过是一个巨大的钢制棺材。美国正在放弃大部分坦克，转而使用更轻、更易操作（和更隐蔽）的火炮。
Russia are refurbishing tanks from storage yards. That is a huge difference from manufacturing.
They cannot get the advanced optic systems from France that the latest variant had. They are stripping systems off old hulls and trying to make them work.
Engines and transmissions are being rebuilt. This is not cost effective fir a T80 turbine but makes sense on the diesels.
All this work gets the old hull moving but it is not a reliable vehicle, it is still more than 30 years old, up to 50. Some systems will not be working, some will break quite quickly.
But as the Russians are not using tanks as designed, and are happy to use them singly in local assaults, the lack of many systems will not have an impact. As long as they move and the guns work, they do not need more.
Russia started with around 2,500 active tanks of all types on paper. Some of those would have been in maintenance.
There were rumoured to be 10,000 hulls in storage but the later satellite shots showed many had disappeared in the last 10 years, scrapped. Hulls left around 4,000 to 5,000.
Russia entered Ukraine with 2,000 tanks. Losses are over 3,000
At first replacements came from running stocks with other units. Then these hulls from the yards were made to run.
You are more likely in Ukraine in 2024 yo find a fixed derelict tank than a well maintained one.
But quantity has its own quality and it is likely Russia still has 2,000 tanks
As the war grinds on, that number is dropping by 100 to 200 each month.
俄罗斯正在翻修储存场的坦克。这与制造有着巨大的区别。
他们无法从法国获得最新型号所拥有的先进光学系统。他们正在拆卸旧车上的系统，并试图使其发挥作用。
发动机和变速箱正在重新生产。这对于T80涡轮机来说并不划算，但对于柴油机来说是有意义的。
所有这些工作都让旧坦克变得可用，但它不是一台可靠的车辆，它仍然有30多年的历史，甚至50年。有些系统将无法工作，有些系统将很快崩溃。
但是，由于俄罗斯人没有按照设计使用坦克，并且乐于在局部袭击中单独使用坦克，因此缺乏许多系统不会产生影响。只要他们动起来，能开火，他们就觉得够了。
俄罗斯最初在纸面上有大约2500辆各种类型的现役坦克。其中一些本来是在维修中。
据传有10000辆在储存中，但后来的卫星照片显示，许多坦克在过去10年中消失了，报废了。只剩下4000到5000辆。
俄罗斯携带2000辆坦克进入乌克兰。损失已经超过3000
起初，替代品来自于其他单位的库存。然后，这些来自工厂的坦克才开始运转。
2024年，你更有可能在乌克兰看到一些翻新的废弃坦克，而不是一些维护良好的坦克。
但数量有其自身的质量，俄罗斯很可能仍有2000辆坦克
随着战争的持续，这个数字每月都在下降100到200。
How the us won ww2. Cheaper more numerous tanks. Germany then and usa now are losing the war by building fewer more technically complicated tanks
美国是如何赢得第二次世界大战的。更便宜的坦克，数量更多。当时的德国和现在的美国正在因为建造更少、技术更复杂的坦克而输掉这场战争
If the U.S was on a war footing and was experiencing the loss rate that Russia is experiencing the whole vehicle production capacity of the US (Ford, GM, Mack, and all their suppliers) would be churning out war materials…. each facility hundreds of components a day… Look, there are 25 major plants just putting vehicles together. The logistics and resources in and of the US would dwarf the total European plus Russian manufacturing….
如果美国处于战争状态，并且正在经历俄罗斯正在经历的损失率，那么美国的整个汽车生产能力（福特、通用、马克及其所有供应商）将大量生产战争物资……。每家工厂每天生产数百个零部件……有25家主要工厂可以生产车辆。美国境内和美国的物流和资源将使欧洲加俄罗斯的制造业总量相形见绌……。
You seem to be overestimating the U.S. auto manufacturing industry
In 2022, the United States produced 10.06 million vehicles, which does seem like a lot.But in fact many are produced in an assembled manner.Many important components come from Europe, Japan and South Korea
But China produced 27 million units in the same year.95% of parts are manufactured locally.
You need to note that producing tanks is completely different from producing cars. It is more like producing construction machinery. For example, crawler machinery such as excavators, loaders, and cranes.
In these areas, China's production capacity reaches half of the world's.
So, your fantasy American car factory switches to producing tanks and surprises the world. This possibility does not exist.
As long as Russia gives China some gas, takes back a lot of RMB, and places an order on AliExpress, they can receive 10,000 tanks within half a year.
你似乎高估了美国的汽车制造业
2022年，美国生产了1006万辆汽车，这看起来确实很多。但实际上有许多是以组装方式生产的。许多重要零部件来自欧洲、日本和韩国
但是中国在同一年生产了2700万辆，95%的零件在本土制造。
你需要注意，生产坦克和汽车完全不一样，它更像是在生产工程机械。例如挖掘机，装载机，起重机这类履带式机械。
在这些领域，中国的产能达到全球的一半。
所以，你幻想的美国汽车工厂转产坦克，让全世界大吃一惊。这种可能性是不存在的。
俄罗斯只要给中国一些天然气，收回许多人民币，并在阿里速卖通上下单，他们半年内就能收到一万辆坦克。
US doesn’t need to match Russian production as they have more than 8000 tanks in storage
unlike Russians who are forced to pull Rusty old granny T55’s from storage with 105 mm guns and crappy frontal armor
there is no doubt that Ukrainians despite their short coming in man power and industrial base have wrecked havoc for Russian armor
so not quantity is not always quality in its own right
美国不需要与俄罗斯的产量相匹配，因为他们储存了8000多辆坦克
与俄罗斯人不同的是，俄罗斯人被迫用105毫米火炮和破旧的从仓库中翻出的T55坦克作战
毫无疑问，尽管乌克兰人的人力和工业基础不足，但他们已经对俄罗斯的装甲造成了严重破坏
因此，数量本身并不总是质量