话题讨论：探访解放军航空母舰山东舰的餐厅 part2
A Tour Inside China's 70,000-Ton Aircraft Carrier Shandong
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网友：航母上的超市给我留下了深刻印象，我想世界上没有任何其他的航母上有超市，对我来说，牛肉是禁止的，这就是我喜欢鸡肉的原因。
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Commentary on a Chinese media programme on the operation of the Type 002 carrier Shandong (CV-17).
中国媒体节目对002型航母山东号(CV-17)操作的评论。
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Oh boy. I think the American should be worried. Not
哦，天呐，我以为美国应该担心。并不是。
thats what US say before korean war and vietnam war
美国在朝鲜战争和越南战争也是这么说的。
America is not a warmongering county bent on imperialist domination. I don’t understand why so many daydream of a conflict that would lead to the loss of countless innocent lives on both sides.
美国不是一个热衷于帝国主义统治的好战国家。我不明白为什么会有那么多人幻想一场会导致双方失去无数无辜生命的冲突。
美国有一支极其强大的海军。中国正在模仿美国海军，因为它是基准。你会情不自禁地钦佩和尊重他们。
@danielmartin7838 are you being sarcastic?
@danielmartin7838 你是在讽刺吗?
@danielmartin7838 So the one nation that have bombed the most nations in the world are not a warmongering, is that what you are saying?
And by that I mean USA.
@danielmartin7838 所以这个轰炸了世界上最多国家的国家并不是一个战争贩子，你是这个意思吗?
我指的是美国。
@danielmartin7838 america is not a warmongering country? really? Are you for real or did you just conveniently forget the last 20 some odd years? Oh and I'm in laos right now. YOu know the country USA bombed to oblivion without even being at war with? and left 100 million fucking unexploded ordances in the ground in? That non-warmongering country?
@danielmartin7838 美国不是一个好战的国家? 真的吗? 你是认真的吗，还是随便就忘了过去20多年的事? 对了，我现在在老挝。你知道那个国家吗，美国甚至没有和它开战，就把它炸得无影无踪? 然后在地上留下了一亿枚未爆炸的弹药? 那个不好战的国家?
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More than a Battleship looks like a luxury Cruise. Chinese naval forse might be larger than US but lacks experience and the launch pad has been based on non probed tesis so the materials used are not well chosed.
不仅仅是战舰，它看起来像豪华游轮。中国海军可能比美国海军规模更大，但缺乏经验，而且它的发射台是基于非探测型的，所以使用的材料没有选好。
never heard US has any navy experience after ww2, fighting with small nations that has no navy or air force is not experience, but it is just a drill , while china has way more navy battle experience than US in last 70 years, with taiwan navy face to face navy ship battles for 30 years non stop, with vietnamese navy ship battle on high sea in 1974 and 1988, while US had zero in ship to ship battles after ww2
二战后从来没有听说美国有什么海战经验，它打的都是没有海/空军的小国家，这不算经验，只是演习，而中国过去70年的海战经验比美国多得多，与台湾（地区）海军针锋相对的海军舰艇战持续了30年不停，1974年和1988年与越南海军舰艇在远海作战，而美国自二战后没有任何舰对舰的战斗。
typical low 70 IQ comment, us when last time their carrier in battle? if they do all those sailor would be in wheel chair or walking stick
典型的低智商评论，美国上次的航母战斗是什么时候? 如果他们这么做了，那些水手就得坐轮椅或拄拐杖了。
One day when opsec allows, I hope there'll be a vlog by one of the sailors on Shandong
我希望有一天，当操作安全允许的时候，会有一个山东舰水手的视频博客。
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WEll done on your propoganda piece sir 10/10
干得好，你的宣传文章，10/10。
c back to cnn properganda
滚回去看CNN的宣传。
A BBC/CNN/FOX NEWS fed is here
这里有个吃饱了BBC/CNN/FOX新闻的小丑。
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Cope lol
嘴硬，哈哈。
@amunra5330 Cope about what ??? Whats china gonna do lmfao ?
@amunra5330 嘴硬什么？中国要做啥，哈哈？
@furiousscotsman2916 dude have a life
@furiousscotsman2916 哥们，找点事做。
Five years ago Us congress passed a laws of 1.5 billions dollars for training Western journalists for writings negative stories about China! All done by the agencies of the united state ! Said by Jan Oberg.
五年前，美国国会通过了一项15亿美元的法律，用于培训西方记者撰写有关中国的负面报道! 都是由美国的机构做的! 简·奥伯格说。
You gotta admit you are impressed that a Taiwanese Brit makes such good propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. It means something, no?
你得承认，一个台湾籍的英国人为中国军队做了这么好的宣传，这让你印象深刻。这意味着什么，不是吗?
@furiousscotsman2916 you can't do shit about china either. You are just loud with your keyboard lmao
@furiousscotsman2916 你对中国也无能为力。你敲击键盘的声音太大了。
Supermarket was impressive I think there is no any other carrier in the world who carry a Supermarket and for me beef is prohibited that's why I love chicken
航母上的超市给我留下了深刻印象，我想世界上没有任何其他的航母上有超市，对我来说，牛肉是禁止的，这就是我喜欢鸡肉的原因。
no all, all large vessel like aircraft carrier with large personnel they have barber and shop is ect. basically it like a floating city.
并不是，所有像航空母舰这样的大型船只都有大量人员，他们有理发师和商店等。基本上它就像一个漂浮的城市。
吃牛肉不是宗教的事吗? 如果是，那么你宁愿杀死几百条生命也不愿杀死一条生命，这是伪君子
i think both ijn yamato class or usn carrier all have a small supermarket within them.
我想无论是大和级还是美国航空母舰都有一个小超市。
Start her up boys we are under attack!
Yes sir! Except that it takes to days to start up because our aircraft carriers run on coal power and we do not have electromagnetic catapults to launch our planes!
We are doomed!
PS - Watch out for the new guy in the Rocket Force...for he may disappear one day!
发动它，伙计们，我们被攻击了!
是，长官! 只是启动它需要几天时间，因为我们的航空母舰是用煤电驱动的，而且我们没有电磁弹射器来发射我们的飞机!
我们完蛋了!
ps：注意那个火箭部队的新成员……因为他总有一天会消失的!
Keep on laughing at us.believe me for a very short time
继续嘲笑我们吧。相信我这段时间不长了。
Sure grandpa let's get you back to bed
好的爷爷，你该回去睡觉了。
prove you know nothing about ac, but an ignorance fool
证明你对航母什么都不懂，只是个无知的傻瓜。
Why so salty, it’s just a ship
为什么这么酸，它只是一艘船。
@greatmystery9729 Chinese citizens are happy with C**. It's the west whose tits are triggered somehow
@greatmystery9729 中国人很喜欢***，不知道西方人有什么不开心的。
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@greatmystery9729 ah so you must be one of those low IQ who believe china collapse in 40days
or it is 60days?
@greatmystery9729 啊，你肯定是那种低智商人士之一，相信中国会在40或60天崩溃吧？
Please, make a comparison between the 2 Chinese carriers and the 2 Indian carrier.
Are they fully-operational?
Are they fully equipped?
How abouth their defences?
Number of war-planes?
Top-speed?
Thank you.
请比较一下中国的两艘航母和印度的两艘航母。
它们能完全运行吗?
它们装备齐全吗?
它们的防御能力如何?
战机的数量?
最高速度?
谢谢你！
關鍵的艦載機不一樣，一方面是重型艦載機，類似於蘇30，一方面是輕型艦載機
they are no even such thing as indian carrier, 1 is built by russian, 2nd smaller one is only 45,000 tons , and ZERO on it is built by india, all imported gears and equipment , including even the steel for ship shell and all the jets
印度航母这种东西根本不存在，1号是俄罗斯造的，2号只有4.5万吨，上面没有一件东西是印度造的，所有装备都是进口的，甚至包括船体外壳的钢材和所有飞机。
And that is why we need a comparison
这就是为什么我们需要一个比较。
no comparison. in youtube comments, india is number one
没有比较。在YouTube评论中，印度南波湾。
You mean, no indigenous Indian carrier design. By definition the ships India chooses to place under her flag are Indian navy.
你是说，没有印度本土设计的航母。而根据定义，印度选择悬挂其国旗的船只就是印度海军。
像中国一样，印度可能有一天会争取完全属于自己的船只和飞机，但是，也许从其他地方购买船只对印度更好。也许有一天，甚至从中国?
这是中国航母被黑的最狠的一次。
LOL.
Why would the PRC, sells weapons to a hostile country, India?
哈哈。
为什么中国要向敌对国家印度出售武器?
India will always claim it is better than China. Such is the vanity of India and its anti-China media.
印度总是声称自己比中国好。这就是印度及其反华媒体的虚荣。
Looks like the food is really nice, and maybe better then most restaurants.
看起来这里的食物很不错，可能比大多数餐馆都好。
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7:20 and now go watch what the US Navy serves on their sampans .
Junk-food and more junk-food
Or the INAS.
More veggie-curry?
7:20 现在去看看美国海军在舢舨上吃的是什么饭。
垃圾食品，更多的垃圾食品。
或者印度航母。
更多的素食咖喱吗?
Navy
Always
Sinks
INAS = 印度海军浮不起来。
That’s not very nice, is it?! I see you’re using our freedom of speech to make positive cross-cultural ties to generate peaceful interactions with your neighbors.
这可不太友好，是吧? 我看到你正在利用我们的言论自由来建立积极的跨文化关系，与你的邻居产生和平的互动。
TOFU CARRIER
豆腐航母。
typical indian comment, repeat same over and over again
no wonder your whole country average IQ is 70 what a shame
典型的印度评论，一遍又一遍地重复，难怪你们整个国家的平均智商是70，真丢脸。
you mean US and india one, both had catch fire for 10000000000000 times in last 5 years
你说的是美国和印度的吧，二者过去5年都失火了10000000000000次。
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gota love the hate
爱恨交织。
The sailors are from China’s new generation, and upgraded facilities were built to accommodate them.
这些水手是中国的新一代，为容纳他们而建造了升级的设施。
Shandong sitting duck... compare to USS GERALD FORD..
山东号是活靶子……与杰拉德·福特号相比……
Gerald Ford Jealous duck compare to Shandong duck
相比于山东鸭，杰拉德福特是酸鸭。
Make sure what you say is true...
确保你说的是真的。
plz dont show your ignorance to the world.
claim to be better when never been in a real fight is just a fool
请不要向世界展示你们的无知。
没有真正打过架就说自己比别人强的，那是傻瓜。
Infront of the hypersonic missiles, everybody is a siting duck
在高超音速导弹面前，每个人都是活靶子。
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The Ford is a remarkable ship. What China has achieved is, from where it began, equally impressive in its own way. I don’t see any other nation trying as hard as they are to emulate the world’s best navy.
福特号是一艘非凡的船。从起点看，中国取得的成就同样令人印象深刻。我没有看到任何其他国家像他们一样努力模仿世界上最好的海军。
It's good to know that China will let the people of Taiwan live in peace.
很高兴知道中国会让台湾人民和平生活。
people of taiwan is Chinese, if they are not, no peace
台湾人是中国人，如果他们不是，就没有和平。
You haven't heard for the pass 40 years their repeated appeal for peaceful reunification? And that appeal can only be backed by determination of force when the separation factions carry out their intention.
你没有听到他们在过去的40年里一再呼吁和平统一吗? 这一呼吁只有在分离派执行其意图时才能得到决心使用武力的支持。
As long as dont try to commit secession their shall be peace
只要不试图分裂，他们就会和平。
@spikermike2843 Chinas military is for peace and will not attack anybody who does not attack them first. That includes the peaceful people of Taiwan.
@spikermike2843 中国的军队是和平的，任何不先攻击它的人，它都不会攻击对方。这包括爱好和平的台湾人民。
Hopefully no aircraft carriers ever gets used and all will retire as cruise ships to show our children the collective stupidity of the world at our times.
希望任何一艘航空母舰都不被使用，所有的航母都作为游轮退役，从而向我们的孩子展示我们这个时代世界的集体愚蠢。
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the ice cream machine works, which is better then half of the McDonald I visited in my life time.
冰淇淋机还能用，比我这辈子去过的一半麦当劳都好吃。
you should come to China ice cream machine in McDonald here works perfectly
你应该来中国看看麦当劳的冰淇淋机。
And coca cola machine mixed with water tastes totally different from the can or bottle
可乐机和水混合后的味道与罐装或瓶装完全不同。
Would it be even safe to consume Chinese made ice cream? They have a lax regard for food safety. And you shouldn't compare McDonalds food to Chinese food because the Americans cook any food in gutter oil.
吃中国制造的冰淇淋安全吗? 他们对食品安全不重视。你也不应该拿麦当劳的食物和中国食物作比较，因为美国人烹饪任何食物都是用地沟油。
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@Fleshox19-uz3qt yes American food is safe and healthy...but I cant figure out why video show their staff stand on the salad or spit in burger?
@Fleshox19-uz3qt 是的，美国食品是安全健康的……但我不明白为什么视频会显示他们的员工站在沙拉上或在汉堡里吐口水?
@jetli740 Neither do I. As I never saw anything like that I can't comment. But I did see a video of a Chinese woman harvesting gutter oil from a drain on Chinese social media. When she was questioned, she didn't see anything wrong with it.
@jetli740 我也不知道，因为我从未见过这样的事情，我不能评论。但我确实在中国的社交媒体上看到了一个中国妇女从排水沟里收集地沟油的视频。当她被询问时，她说不觉得有什么问题。
So the Chinese bought an old Ukrainian Aircraft-carrier and rebuild it and then studied it and built a newer 1 within 15-years?
所以中国人买了一艘旧的乌克兰航空母舰，然后重建它，然后研究它，在15年内建造了一艘新的?
And dont forget they installed 3 engines instead of 4 and had to open it again after closing the deck.
我们可怜的五哥翻新一艘来自俄罗斯的旧第二艘航母花了多长时间?
别忘了他们安装了3个引擎而不是4个，而且在甲板合拢后必须再次打开。
Who's the 5th brother? Starts with the letter I?
五哥是谁？以字母I开头？
Of course-lah, it was 3rd brother, but in what is it 3rd?
It is now 5th-brother, 5th Nominal GDP.
Gai Behind, the USA aka IOU-country
(fake-GDP), Behind the PRC, Behind Germany (3rd GDP) and beHind JPN.
Always Gai Behind
当然了，是三哥，但它哪里跟第三有关系?
现在是五哥，名义GDP第5。
落后于美国，又名欠条国家(假的GDP)，落后于中国，落后德国(第三GDP)，落后日本。
总是落后。
India?
印度？
你小子
请尊称一声三哥！
I saw a Reddit post saying the 2nd batch of Type 055 destroyers are under construction in Jiangnan. Is this true or false ? This post is 5 months old now. Are there evidence confirming this?
我在Reddit上看到一个帖子，说第二批055型驱逐舰正在江南建造。这是真的还是假的? 那个帖子是5个月前的了。有证据证实这一点吗?
second type (upgrade), probably. 055B or something.
第二型（升级版），大概。055B之类的。
Yes, some pictures taken at the end of October confirmed that the No.9 already launched. And the No.10 is still under construction and will launch soon.
是的，十月底拍的一些照片证实九号已经下水了。10号舰仍在建造中，很快就会下水。
The food doesn't look so appetizing
这食物看起来不怎么开胃。
What do you expect? Burgers and fries?
你想要什么?汉堡和薯条?
Because you are used to eat veggie-curry 24/7
因为你习惯于不停的吃素食咖喱。
Western food is tasteless and unhealthy
西餐既无味又不健康。
I mean this video spent the most time explaining the food on the ship.
我的意思是这个视频花了最多的时间来解释船上的食物。
food is 1 of the most important part, hungry soldier can't fight (do their job properly).
食物是最重要的部分之一，饥饿的士兵无法战斗(正常工作)。
Well they probably don't want to show you how the radar arrays work.
他们可能不想向你展示其雷达阵列是如何工作的。
A navy sails on its stomach. Food is life and water the key to that life.
海军用肚皮航行。食物是生命，水是生命的关键。
The food is the warrant of combat capability.
食物是战斗力的保证。
Is it nuclear powered?
它是核动力的吗？
Shandong is not
山东号不是。
No, but China has nuclear submarines, power plants and weapons.
Not having nuclear power is an intentional design choice. They can certainly have it if they wanted to.
不，但是中国有核潜艇、发电厂和武器。
不使用核能是一个有意的设计选择。如果他们想要，他们当然可以拥有它。
Is it made in c.... so it is powered by ...... peddling
它是C造的，所以它是用V52人划桨做动力的。
The fourth or fifth will be nuclear power.
第四或第五艘将是核动力。
@Bangy There are reports about China's plans to build nuclear powered cargo ships. My guess would be that they will first develop those, get economy of scale for this type of nuclear reactor going, and then build more nuclear powered warships for a much lower cost.
有报道称中国计划建造核动力货船。我的猜测是，他们将首先开发这些，为这种类型的核反应堆获得规模经济，然后以更低的成本建造更多的核动力军舰。