小费真的属于我们的“用餐礼仪”吗？如果给小费，你给多少？
Is tipping really in our ‘dining etiquette’? If you tip, how much do you give?
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老实说，我在 Covid 之前并不给小费，除非真的被对方的服务打动了。
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Is tipping really in our ‘dining etiquette’? If you tip, how much do you give?
小费真的属于我们的“用餐礼仪”吗？如果给小费，你给多少？
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What I noticed in the last years was some restaurants became a bit passive aggressive in asking for a tip. Some would cancel the ‘do you want to tip screen’ or others just wait for you to press a yes or a no. One restaurant even had the tipping screen with the tip percentage and ‘reactions’ like 0%, 5% Meh, 10% Thank you!
Do you tip? Or I’m just stingy
老实说，我在 Covid 之前并不给小费，除非真的被对方的服务打动了。我的伴侣总是给小费，我也会跟着给点。
最近几年，我发现有些餐厅在索要小费时变得有点过于主动了。有的餐厅会取消“您是否要给小费”的显示，有的餐厅则只给你“给”或“不给”的选项。有一家餐厅甚至在小费屏幕上显示小费比例和“反应”，比如给0%、5% ，就是面无表情、给10% 就会出现高兴的脸！
你会给小费吗，还是我太小气了 ？
I’m commenting from an Australian point of view as we’ve had tipping culture creeping in for a few years now, I think it’s insidious and not compatible with my country.
I don’t feel like anyone should get tips for simply doing their job, you’re already compensated for your time and effort via wages.
If staff are paid appropriately in the first place there’s not even a need for tipping.
I’m not sure if it’s a similar case in Ireland but here the tips usually just go to the business not the individual wait staff.
我是从澳大利亚的角度发表评论的，因为我们的小费文化已经悄然兴起了好几年，我认为它很阴险，与我们的国家格格不入。
我不认为任何人只要做好本职工作就应该得到小费，你的时间和精力已经通过工资得到了补偿。
如果员工的工资合理，根本就不需要给小费。
我不确定爱尔兰是否也有类似的情况，但在这里，小费通常只归商家而不是服务员个人所有。
Should there not be a bonus for doing their job well though? There’s a big difference between a waiter who doesn’t give a shit and a waiter who’s going above and beyond to ensure you’re having a pleasant experience. That’s where tipping comes in, waiters who just do their job get the base salary, waiters who do a good job get a bit more. Businesses taking tips used to be a problem in Ireland however the practice has been outlawed a few years ago. Staff get the tips now by law
出色完成工作难道不应该得到奖金吗？一个漠不关心的服务员和一个为了让你有一个愉快的用餐体验而不遗余力的服务员是有很大区别的。这就是小费的作用所在，只做好本职工作的服务员能拿到底薪，而做得好的服务员能拿到更多的小费。在爱尔兰，企业收取小费曾经是个问题，但这种做法几年前已被取缔。员工现在可以依法获得小费
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Should there not be a bonus for doing their job well though?
Of course, but that shouldn’t come from the customer.
Doing your job well should be the standard anyway regardless of industry, but I understand the importance praise has on staff morale, even things like gift cards for example from employers are a good incentive to not slack off.
“出色完成工作难道不应该得到奖金吗？”
当然应该，但这不应该让客户来承担。
而且不管哪行哪业，做好本职工作都应该是标准，但我理解表扬对员工士气的重要性，即使是雇主赠送的礼品卡等，也能很好地激励员工不偷懒。
I suppose it’s hard for recognition to be passed on unless customers are asked for reviews after every meal… a tip is an easy way to show roughly how good the service was besides otherwise employers would just pass on the tips in higher prices. There’s no such thing as a free lunch so to speak
我认为，除非每次用餐后都要求顾客作出评价，否则你的认可很难传递下去......而小费是一种简单的方式，可以大致说明服务有多好，此外，如果让雇主奖励，雇主也只会以更高的价格来转嫁小费。可以说，天下没有免费的午餐
But why is it mostly just limited to this specific industry?
Customers don’t tip supermarket check out workers for doing a good job, why is it any different?
At the end of the day, staff need to be paid adequately BY THEIR EMPLOYER for the job that they are being paid to do regardless of industry/job.
但为什么这个现象大部分只出现在餐饮行业呢？
顾客也不会因为超市收银员的工作做得好而给他们小费啊，为什么会产生不同呢？
归根结底，无论在哪个行业/岗位，员工都需要得到雇主支付的适当报酬。
Meath
I don't think it's required. Like no waiter is gonna chase you out of the place if you leave nothing.
I haven't waited tables myself in years. But when I did it wasn't expected. It was nice, sure, but not that big a deal.
我不认为这是必要的。毕竟即使你什么都没留下，也没有服务员会把你赶出去。
我已经很多年没当过服务员了。但当我做过的时候，我并不指望它。当然，能有很好，没有也不是什么大事。
This was ages ago. Like possibly 10+ years ago, but my family didn't tip in a Mexican restaurant in Dublin city centre because they had a service charge. We assumed the service charge was the tip. The waiter started shouting at us as we were leaving. It was something along the lines of "what's your fuckin problem?! What did I do to you?! My service wasnt good enough?!" etc. etc.
Weird experience. I've never seen anything like that since then and I've worked in bars/clubs myself which I never got any tips from.
我想起一件很久以前的事。可能是 10 多年前的事了，那时我们一家人在都柏林市中心的一家墨西哥餐厅吃饭时没有给小费，因为他们已经收了服务费。我们以为服务费就是小费。我们离开时，服务员开始对我们大喊大叫。大意是“你他妈的有什么问题？我对你做了什么？我的服务还不够好吗？”等等。
这是一次奇怪的经历。从那以后，我再也没见过类似的事情，而且我自己也在酒吧/俱乐部工作过，从来没拿过任何小费。
That waiter was a cunt and if it was me I would have gone to his manager and explained exactly why I wouldn't be returning and telling everyone I know to avoid the place (I wouldn't actually follow through with the tarnishing their name I would just want them to understand what accepting that sort of behaviour from their wait staff could do to their business).
Tipping is 100% not compulsory here and as soon as someone expects one from me they don't get one.
那个服务员是个混蛋，如果是我，我一定会去找他的经理，向他阐述我不会再光顾的原因，并扬言要让我认识的每个人都别去那个地方（我不会真的去说他们的坏话，我只是想让他们明白，接受服务员的这种行为会给他们的生意带来什么影响）。
在这里，小费不是强制性的，一旦有人希望从我这里得到小费，他们就不会得到。
These days the tipping is asked for via machine which makes things extra fucking awkward and makes me feel like Randy Marsh when he was asked for a donation in Donnybrook Fair.
现在小费都是通过机器收取的了，这让事情变得格外尴尬，让我觉得自己就像《唐尼布鲁克集市》中被要求捐款的兰迪-马什一样。
I am an American but those automated systems with pre calculated tips are becoming ubiquitous, even in places that didn’t traditionally get tips. Then I realized the payment processors that created those devices gets percentage of all the money run through them so by pushing up to 25% or even more for a tip they are making a lot kore money in transaction fees. If and when I tip now I zero out the charge on the machine and just leave cash as the tip so I know it actually all goes to the wait staff and not fucking Visa.
我是美国人，但那些预先计算小费的自动系统正变得无处不在，甚至在传统上不收取小费的地方也是如此。后来我才意识到，创建这些设备的支付处理商可以从所有通过它们支付的款项中获取一定比例的收益，因此，通过收取高达 25% 甚至更多的小费，他们可以赚取更多的交易费。现在，如果我要给小费，我会把机器上的费用清零，只留下现金作为小费，这样我就知道这些钱实际上都给了服务员，而不是该死的 Visa。
As an American, don't let this get out of control like we did. It's been insanity ever since covid when people became more generous out of pity for the service workers losing their livelihoods, now it can't be rolled back. 20% to restaurants, pubs, coffee shops, barber, taxi, car wash, etc. Bonkers. I live here now and I will not be contributing to any tipping culture here I assure you.
Where I'm from if the menu says your meal is $20 you can expect + 8.25% tax + 4% service fee + 20% tip (on the after-tax total). So about $27.
作为一个美国人，请不要让这一切像我们那样失控。自COVID以来，人们出于对失去生计的服务业工人的同情而变得更加慷慨，这已经是一种疯狂的行为，现在却无法收回。餐馆、酒吧、咖啡馆、理发店、出租车、洗车店等都要交 20%的小费。太疯狂了。我现在住在这里，我向你保证，我不会助长这里任何的小费文化。
在我的家乡，如果菜单上写着你的餐费是 20 美元，那么你需要支付 + 8.25% 的税 + 4% 的服务费 + 20% 的小费（税后总额）。所以大约是 27 美元。
I really think it's because (I'm in Ireland here) we grew up watching so much US-based TV and media that people think tipping is a thing here. We love to import American-isms over here. Our country is obsessed with the US.
Tipping makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in places where there are minimum wage laws and the people working there don't rely or need to rely on tips.
That said, I am guilty of it myself and will often just round up. Unless the service is actually bad (which is incredibly rare).
我真的认为这是因为（我在爱尔兰）我们从小就看了太多美国的电视和媒体，所以人们认为给小费也是这里必须要做的事情。我们这里喜欢引进美国人的做法。我们的国家迷恋美国。
在有最低工资法的地方，小费是完全没有意义的，在那里工作的人不依赖或不需要依赖小费。
话虽如此，我自己也有这种毛病，经常会把小费凑成整数。除非服务真的很差（这种情况非常罕见）。
Kildare
Here the tax (VAT) is 13.5% for food services, 23% on some items like soft drinks. So you're paying more baseline from the start.
Feel like some of the employment culture here should be exported to the US so it dilutes some of the things that make life harder for US workers. Basic things like 20 days guaranteed off a year, maternity leave, tips not making up your base wage, etc. For the customers, advertising the real price would also be nice, can't understand not having that whenever I visit the US.
这里的餐饮服务税（增值税）为 13.5%，软饮料等部分商品为 23%。因此，你从一开始就需要支付更多的基线税。
我觉得这里的一些就业文化应该输出到美国，这样就能冲淡一些让美国工人生活更艰难的因素。比如一年 20 天的保证休假、产假、小费不占用基本工资等等。对于顾客来说，公布真实价格也是很好的一件事，我每次去美国都不能理解为什么没有。
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The tipping issue... I'm only commenting here because the German flag is in the picture.
Here it was customary to give a tip for good service. For small sums, like a coffee for 1.80€, you rounded up, for larger bills the general view was to give 10%. But it was also okay not to tip.
But in recent years, an expectation of tipping has become widespread that I find somewhat absurd. Even for bad service or no service at all, tips are expected. In some cases, the staff demand a massive tip, with buttons on the display and the like.
Personally, I resist this and only tip if the service is good.
关于小费问题...我也来评论一下，因为图片中出现了德国国旗。
在这里，人们习惯于为优质服务支付小费。小金额的小费，比如一杯 1.80 欧元的咖啡，你可以向上凑个整数；大金额的小费一般是商品的 10%。但不给小费也是可以的。
但近年来，我觉得有点荒谬的是，人们对小费的期望变得越来越普遍。即使服务不好或根本没有服务，也要给小费。在某些情况下，工作人员会要求大量小费，并在显示屏上设置按钮等。
就我个人而言，我抵制这种做法，只在服务好的情况下给小费。
I live in the Netherlands. Nobody tips that I know of.
I tip in a Michelin star restaurant I go to once a year.
This chart is weird.
我住在荷兰。据我所知，没有人给小费。
我每年去一次米其林星级餐厅，都会给小费。
这个图表很奇怪。
We have a minimum wage in Ireland, people don't get paid 3 euro an hour. Tipping is an absolute scourge (ask anyone from the USA) and is slowing creeping in here.
And I don't agree with tipping for "exceptional service" as people are then just artificially creating fake smiles and all that shit for extra tipping money. I just expect "good service", I order, you do the job you're employed to do, bring me my shit, I eat, I pay my money and leave. Same with cutting my hair. Same with my mechanic.
If you keep tipping then people keep expecting it and then businesses use it as a tactic to artificially keep wages lower as employees get "loads of money from tips shur".
I'm starting to see the payment screen being at the tipping % screen in a few places these days and have got the eye roll a few times when I press zero.
Look up the expectations of who expects tips in the USA now and the typical tipping amounts. It's insane.
爱尔兰有最低工资标准，人们每小时的工资不会只有 3 欧元。给小费绝对是一种祸害（可以问问美国人），而且在爱尔兰正逐渐蔓延。
我也不赞成为“特殊服务”付小费，因为人们只是为了额外的小费而人为地制造假笑之类的东西。我只期待“优质服务”，我点餐，你做好你的本职工作，把我的东西拿过来，我吃完，付了钱就走。剪头发也一样。修理东西也是一样。
如果你一直给小费，那么人们就会一直期待你给小费，然后商家就会利用这一点人为地压低工资，因为员工可以“从小费中获得大量收入”。
最近，我开始在一些地方看到付款屏幕上显示小费百分比，当我按下“0”时，有好几次都被人翻白眼。
在美国，人们对小费的期望值和典型的小费数额都很高。这太疯狂了。
Cork bai
I've never tipped as most places include a charge for large groups.
I don't think any waiter/waitress in Ireland is going to say or do anything if you don't tip it's not really a thing imo.
我从来没有给过小费，因为大多数地方都会对大型团体收费。
我认为在爱尔兰，如果你不给小费，任何服务员都不会说什么或做什么。
Dont tip in Ireland because unlike America our waitresses and waiters are actually paid properly
在爱尔兰不要给小费，因为与美国不同，我们的男女服务员实际上得到了适当的报酬
American tourists (and some others) are tipping 20%+ making it an expectation in some places. Lad I knew a few years back worked in a restaurant on Stephen’s Green and he nearly made double his wages with tips
美国游客（和其他一些游客）的小费都在 20% 以上，这在一些地方成为了一种期望。几年前，我认识的一个小伙子在斯蒂芬绿地的一家餐馆工作，他的小费几乎是他工资的两倍。
I don't think it's something we can blame on tourists. I worked in a hotel nearly 20 years ago and regularly made a couple hundred quid each week in tips. It might have only been 1 or 2 people out of every 5 that were tipping, but it's always existed.
I've never really found it to be an expectation though, or at least I've never seen an encounter where someone was criticised for not tipping.
我认为这不能归咎于游客。大约 20 年前，我在一家酒店工作，每周都能赚到几百英镑的小费。也许每 5 个人中只有 1 到 2 个人会给小费，但这种现象一直存在。
不过，我从未觉得这是一种期望，至少我从未见过有人因为不给小费而受到批评。
They are absolutely not paid “properly”. Most are on minimum wage. Between the housing crisis & cost of living, that is poverty wages. There shouldn’t and isn’t an expectation to tip but don’t sooth your conscious with the idea that hospitality staff get anywhere close of a wage that can be lived on comfortably
他们绝对没有得到“适当”的报酬。大多数人拿的是最低工资。处于住房危机和月光之间，工资少得可怜。我们对小费不应该也不要形成一种期望，但不要自以为服务人员的工资可以让他们舒舒服服地生活。
Our minimum wage is much higher than America, that's no reason to tip.
我们的最低工资比美国高得多，所以没有理由给小费。
It’s not at all expected, nor should be considered part of our culture.
Having said that, I always do because it’s a tough job, it’s shitty dealing with the public, I like to make peoples day a little bit better and I’m a little older and better paid. People in service jobs have it tough.
这根本不是我们所期望的，也不应该被视为我们文化的一部分。
话虽如此，我还是一直这样做，因为这是一份艰苦的工作，与公众打交道很不容易，我喜欢让人们的日子过得好一点，而且我年纪稍长，收入也更高。做服务工作的人都很辛苦。
My problem with that is what about staff working in shops, Tesco etc. Also a shitty job where you deal with the public but you’re not gonna get tips there.
我的问题是，在商店、超市等地方工作的员工怎么办？这也是一份与公众打交道的艰难的工作，但这些员工得不到小费。
When you eat out, you want the experience to be enjoyable. Your waiter plays a big part in that. Maybe they recommend you a nice dish, or maybe they make sure your drink is never empty, or maybe they allow you to order something not on the menu. Their service can make or break the evening, so I never have a problem leaving them a tip if they've done it well.
Unfortunately, if you work in Tesco, the most you'll be doing is dealing with me for a minute or two while you scan a few items. It's not the same type of service and it's difficult to do it badly enough that it ruins my day.
当你外出就餐时，你希望获得愉快的体验。你的服务员在其中扮演着重要角色。也许他们会向你推荐一道好菜，也许他们会确保你的饮料永远不会空，也许他们会让你点菜单上没有的菜。他们的服务可以决定一个晚上的成败，所以如果他们做得好，我从来不会介意给他们小费。
不幸的是，如果你在乐购工作，你最多也就是在扫描几件商品时和我打一两分钟交道。这不是同一种服务，而且也很难做得很差，以至于毁了我的一天。
Do you only eat in Six By Nico or something? What are you on about? The vast majority of the time, service staff show you to a seat, give you a menu, write your order down and drop it off. The end.
你只在 Six By Nico 吃东西吗？你在说什么？绝大多数情况下，服务人员会带你找到座位，给你菜单，写下你的订单，然后把它放下。结束。
I hate leaving a tip, it's not needed, you get paid a wage, that's your tip. Nobody tips me for doing my job.
我讨厌给小费，这没有必要，你拿了工资，那就是你的小费。没人会因为我的工作而给我小费。