QA：中国的人均GDP什么时候能赶上土耳其、墨西哥、巴西、阿根廷、马来西亚、波兰和智利?-网帖翻译-龙腾网

Max Jeng
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Year 2020, China still needs to catch up with Chile and Poland, but already surpassed the other 5 countries (Argentina, Brazil, Malaysia, Mexico, and Turkey ).
The question was asked in 2014, so it only took six years for China to overtake these five countries.
Here I show you the data of 2020 by International Monetray Fund:
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截至2020年，中国的人均gdp已经超过了阿根廷，巴西，马来西亚，墨西哥和土耳其，中国现在需要超过的只有智利和波兰
这个问题是2014年提出来，所以中国超过这五个国家只花了六年时间。
以下是国际货币基金组织2020年提供的数据：
如果你想要更加详细的数据，可以点击下面的链接获取更多信息

The question is only about GDP, but there are many factors that affect GDP, and it does not really represent a country's standard of living.
For the quality of life of the average civilian, there are many more, three of which are important for security/education/health care.
Mr. Lee Kuan Yew once said, "The litmus test of the merits of a political system is whether it can improve the lives of the majority of people in that society."
Brazil and Mexico, these two countries in the developing world is actually considered good countries, have their own industrial system, 2020 GDP per capita can get more than 6000-8000 U.S. dollars, but still gang rampant.

这个问题只涉及到了GDP，但是影响GDP的因素有很多，它不能真正代表一个国家的生活水平。
有很多的因素可以影响到普通人的生活质量，而教育，医疗和安全对生活质量的影响尤为重要。
李光耀曾经说过能否改善社会中大部分人的生活水平才是检验一个政治制度的试金石。
在发展中国家里面，巴西和墨西哥可以算是很不错的国家，他们拥有自己的工业体系，2020年他们的人均gdp超过了6000到8000美元这个范围，但是这些国家依然是黑帮横行

In countries with $10,000 per capita, China's security, education, and health care three is simply an oddity, such as Malaysia, Mexico, and Costa Rica, which have similar GDP per capita with China, but the quality of life and safety of ordinary Chinese people is far better than these countries.
Why is China significantly better governed with the same GDP per capita? Because China has not fallen into the trap of contemporary civilization.
What are the pitfalls of contemporary civilization? Since it is not relevant to the question, I will leave the explanation in the comments if you want to have a cursory understanding.

在人均1万美元的国家里面，中国的治安，医疗和教育可以算是一个异数，马来西亚，墨西哥和哥斯达黎加的人均gdp和中国差不多，但是中国人的生活质量和治安环境要远远好于这些国家。
为什么在人均gdp相同的情况下，中国的治理水平明显更高呢？因为中国没有落入当代文明的陷阱之中。
当代文明的陷阱是什么？由于这和该问题无关，如果你想粗略了解的话，我会在评论区进行解释。

Okay, let's go back to the GDP issue.
Now, two countries remain to be surpassed. When and will China overtake Chile and Poland? I don't know.

让我们把话题转回到gdp上来
现在中国还有两个国家没有超越。中国什么时候会超过智利和波兰呢？我不知道。

Before a country enters the middle developed countries, it is possible to accumulate a large amount of wealth by simple scale expansion due to the low cost of industrial production and operation, relying on labor-intensive industries. Such industrial workers require little quality and can be achieved with a large supply of labor. This was also the case in Japan back then when Japanese products were everywhere. Now the world is made in China, but mainly concentrated in the low-end goods.

在一个国家成为中等发达国家之前，由于工业生产和经营成本较低，因此依靠劳动密集型的产业，通过简单的规模扩张就能积累起庞大的财富。这样的产业工人不需要有太高的素质，只要数量够多就可以了。当年的日本同样也是如此，那个时候到处都是日本产品。而现在全世界都是中国制造。但是中国制造主要集中于低端产品。

But after entering middle developed countries, the original labor-intensive industries, due to rising costs, were forced to move to regions with less developed economies and lower labor prices. The model of accumulating wealth through labor-intensive industries has gradually become unworkable. The key to China's real estate being able to create so much value later on is that people have money (wealth), and this wealth is accumulated through labor-intensive industries, the hard-earned money of all the people. The country also concentrates social wealth through real estate, which is "concentrated power to do great things".

而在进入成为中等发达国家之后，原本的劳动密集型产业会由于成本上升被迫转移到欠发达和劳动成本较低的地区去。通过劳动密集型产业积累财富的模式将逐渐失灵。中国房地产后来之所以能够创造出那么大的价值的关键原因在于老百姓有钱，而这些财富是通过劳动密集型产业积累起来的，是所有老百姓的血汗钱。国家通过房地产集中了社会财富，这就是所谓的集中力量办大事。

After entering the middle developed countries, labor-intensive industries can no longer take the responsibility of creating wealth for society and pushing it forward rapidly. This responsibility must be taken by capital- and technology-intensive industries, that is, the middle and high-end industries after industrial upgrading. Before Japan entered the middle developed countries, it was also a variety of imitation and counterfeit, and so was Korea. But when Japan entered the middle developed countries, Konosuke Matsushita emerged, who led Japanese enterprises to complete technological upgrading rapidly. Later, he was called the "God of Management" in Japan.

在成为中等发达国家之后，劳动密集型产业已经无法再承担为社会创造财富，并推动社会快速前进的责任了。而这个责任必须由资本和技术密集型的产业来承担，即产业升级后的中高端产业。在日本成为中等发达国家之前，也是各种仿制其他国家的产品，韩国同样也是如此。但在日本成为中等发达国家后，日本出现了松下幸之助这样的人，他带领日本企业迅速完成了技术升级。后来他在日本被称为经营之神。

After entering the middle developed countries, since the goal of industrial technology upgrading is technology-intensive industries, more capital (wealth) is needed; the development and breakthrough of science and technology also need more capital (wealth), at this time, if the middle and high-end industries cannot quickly complete industrial upgrading, the industry and the whole society cannot find a balance between efficiency and fairness, the people will feel widespread injustice, and efficiency cannot be improved. Brazil, which ever reached a per capita income of $12,000, has not become a developed country because of the poor solution to this problem, but now its per capita income is still not as high as China's. This is why when it comes to the "medium development trap", Brazil is always used as an example.

在成为中等发达国家之后，由于产业技术升级的目标是要成为技术密集型产业，因此需要有更多的资本投入，科学技术的发展和突破也需要有更多的资本，在这个时候如果中高端产业无法迅速完成产业升级，那么产业和整个社会就无法在效率和公平之间找到一个平衡点，人们会感到普遍的不公，效率也将无法得到提高。曾经人均达到12000美元的巴西就是因为这个问题没有解决好，才没有成为发达国家，而现在它的人均还没有中国高。这就是为什么每当说到中等收入陷阱的时候，人们总是拿巴西举例的原因。

But at the same time, China is not focus in GDP as the most important thing. The Chinese rulers see that in the United States and other so-called "democratic" countries around the world, no matter who is elected, the country is actually ruled by only 1% of the rich people. Even if the GDP is high, it is useless, because most of it is taken by the rich. Chinese officials say "We are not interested in whether China's economic output exceeds that of the United States, nor is it our pursuit. It is the goal of the Chinese government to let the 1.4 billion Chinese people live a good life and satisfy their aspirations for a better life."
The main key for China now is to complete the technological upgrading of the industry. After comparing the government system/efficiency, I think China will definitely surpass Chile and Poland in GDP per capita in the future.

但与此同时，中国并没有将gdp做为重中之重。中国统治者看到了在美国和其他所谓的民主国家，不管是谁当选，国家实际上是由最富裕的那1%的人统治的。中国官员说我们对中国是否能超越美国不感兴趣，这不是我们的追求。让14亿中国人民过上好生活，满足他们对美好生活的向往才是中国政府的目标。
中国目前的关键是要完成技术升级。在对比了政治制度/效率后，我认为中国的人均GDP将来肯定会超过智利和波兰。

Hang Young
· 2y
The best of the answer is that you mentioned “the question is asked in 2014”, the moment I knew we have never stopped. Thank you.

这篇答问的精华在于你提到了这个问题是在2014年提出的，这一刻我才知道我们一直都在不断的进步。谢谢。

Max Jeng
· 2y
You are wellcome, but I'm just describing the facts, no personal bias and feelings.
The people to thank should be hardworking Chinese people/ productive government/ good system.
But to know whether the people of a country are happy， GDP per capita is not the only one, because wealth may actually be concentrated in a few rich people, so it is necessary to look at other indicators (such as the Gini coefficient/ Cost of living …bla bla ).

不用客气，我只是不带个人感情和偏见的在描述事实而已
应该要感谢的是勤劳的中国人民/富有成效的政府/良好的制度
但是需要知道的是一个国家的人民是否幸福，不能只看人均gdp，因为财富有可能集中在少数富人手中，所以有必要看看其他的指标（比如基尼系数/生活成本等）
Xavier Liu （刘子筝）

· 2y
Oh hard to imagine Argentina used to be a developed country.

难以置信的是阿根廷之前竟然是一个发达国家。

Max Jeng
· 1y
Speaking of Mexico, here is a travelogue . You will see how different life is in countres both (China and Mexico) with a GDP about $10,000 per capita and why it is different.

下面是一篇有关墨西哥的游记。在这篇文章中，你可以看到人均都在1万美元左右的中国和墨西哥的生活有多么不同，以及产生这些差异的原因。

I went to Mexico for a three week drive at the end of 2018. Overall, Mexico was a pretty good experience with its welcoming people, ancient culture, and beautiful beaches.
But Mexico is an extremely divided society. A river apart, one side is the laughter of the prosperous world, the other side is earth purgatory. A street apart, one side is a luxurious and clean five-star hotel, the other side is a garbage-strewn slum.

2018年末，我开车去墨西哥玩了三周。总的来说，这次旅行是一次很不错的体验，墨西哥拥有古老的文化，美丽的海滩和热情好客的人民。
但是墨西哥也是一个极度分裂的社会。河的一边的是繁华世界的欢声笑语，河的另一边则是人间炼狱。街的一边是豪华干净的五星级酒店，而街的另一边是垃圾遍地的贫民窟。

In the interior of the southern Yucatan Peninsula, when we were about to take an aerial shot with our DJI drone, the system prompted us to upxe the map. To avoid accidentally entering the no-fly zone, we decided to upxe it before taking off. In the rural areas of Mexico, the network is like a turtle's speed. A few hundred megabytes of data upxe is done in a few seconds in China, but it took several minutes in Mexico. I had no choice but to wait.
In the process of waiting, within the view of my car window, there are about dozens of Mexicans, carelessly wielding scythes, cutting weeds on the roadside. The same job, our neighborhood master, a man carrying a lawn mower, a few minutes to do. They are dozens of people, almost dawdling in place, a few minutes without progress.

在尤卡坦半岛南部内陆地区，当我们准备用大疆无人机进行航拍的时候，系统提醒我们更新地图。为了避免误入禁飞区，我们决定在起飞之前更新地图。在墨西哥农村地区，网络慢的就像是乌龟一样。在中国更新几百兆的数据只要几秒钟就可以了，但是在墨西哥要好几分钟。我不得不选择等待。
在等待过程中，透过车窗，我看到了路边大约有几十个墨西哥人在挥舞着镰刀割草。同样的工作，我们小区的师傅，一个人扛着割草机，几分钟就干完了。而他们几十个人在原地磨磨蹭蹭，几分钟了都毫无进展。

Although I have been used to the lazy Mexicans, but such primitive labor tools and work efficiency, really made me jaw-dropping. Later heard the Mexican locals said, because the local elections, the local government in order to brush the employment rate, with the public budget, hired a lot of temporary workers, so that they can brag about the high employment rate. The day the election is over is the time when the "temporary workers" are unemployed.

虽然我已经习惯了墨西哥人的懒散，但是如此原始的劳动工具和工作效率着实让人感到震惊。后来听当地墨西哥人说，因为当地选举，地方政府为了刷就业率，就用公共预算雇佣了很多的临时工，这样就业率高了，他们也就可以吹牛了。选举结束之日，也就是临时工失业之时。

Now when I think back to the scene, two images come to my mind. The first picture, Mexicans waving scythes, and the world's richest and most powerful country as neighbors, but still can not see hope. In the second, programmers in Shenzhen are at DJI headquarters, studying algorithms and updating data, and DJI has monopolized the world's civilian drone market.

现在当我回想起当时的情景时，脑中就会浮现出两幅画面。第一幅画面是墨西哥人挥舞着镰刀，和世界上最强大最富裕的国家为邻，但依然看不到任何希望。第二幅是，深圳程序员在大疆总部，研究算法，更新数据，大疆已经垄断了世界民用无人机市场。

Tl Hew
· 2y
China will surpass them because China can master new technology. Can any of those countries launch rocket to the moon and mars?

中国将超过他们，因为中国可以掌握新的技术。这些国家里面有哪个可以向火星或月球发射火箭？

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