英美合并会是什么样子?（一）

Damon Brooks
Sorry I know I’m late in commenting, but I’ve always been intrigue by this notion of US, UK, Canada, Australia & New Zealand merger. To focus on US and UK, how it would happen is, England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland (or all of Ireland) would each be their own state. Each of the states can keep their version of socialized health care just like Massachusetts does. They would keep their own parliaments as “state” governments. I think they would just have to let go of their monarchy, which is why this would probably never happen. I’m a big fan of the UK and glad they voted to leave the EU. I thought they were closer to the US than Europe in a lot of ways.

对不起，我知道我评论晚了，但我一直被美国、英国、加拿大、澳大利亚和新西兰合并的想法所吸引。将重点放在美国和英国,它将如何发生，英格兰、苏格兰、威尔士和北爱尔兰(或整个爱尔兰)将各自成为独立的州。每个州都可以像马萨诸塞州一样保留自己的社会化医疗保健模式。他们将保留自己的议会作为“州”政府。我认为他们将不得不放弃他们的君主制，这就是为什么这可能永远不会发生的原因。我是英国的铁杆粉丝，很高兴他们投票做出脱欧的决定。我认为他们在很多方面比欧洲更亲近美国。

Anonymous
What would a UK-US merge look like?
I often recall entering a US post office with a German national and her remarking that the US post office was an exact mixture of a German post office and a British post office. I completed my first degree in the US and I did notice this aspect of hybrid culture. I once asked a colleague at Oxford University "would it not be great to have a country with the sense of freedom of the United Kingdom and the work ethic of Germany" and he replied to me (he is Brazilian) almost immediately: "but it is called the United States!" I think that this is one of the reasons why we are two countries divided by a common language as they say. Our cultures are rather different and so misunderstandings will often occur. Even in Europe under the European Commission I do not think the culture of Germany and the culture of Great Britain have merged in any real sense. The countries remain very different in culture after some forty years of trying to find some common ground inside of the EU. It is a pity because a Prussian friend of mine once said to me: "between Germany and Britain we could run the whole of Europe". Sadly or fortunately the British we left our natural role to France. I believe we could have done a much better job at it. This may be a bit unfair on France. They say that France has all of the engineering technology and that German firms send spies there because the great R&D ideas come from France although the Germans produce better, but perhaps it is too risky to generalize.

英美合并会是什么样子？
我经常记得我曾和一位德国国民一起走进一家美国邮局，她说美国邮局完全是德国邮局和英国邮局的混合体。我在美国完成了第一个学位，我确实注意到了混合文化的这一方面。我曾问牛津大学的一位同事“拥有一个拥有英国的自由意识和德国的职业道德的国家不是很好吗？”他几乎立刻回复了我(他是巴西人)：“它叫美国！”。我认为这就是为什么我们两个国家被一种共同的语言所分割的原因之一。我们的文化差异很大，因此经常会发生误解。即使在欧盟委员会领导下的欧洲，我也不认为德国文化和英国文化在任何真正意义上进行了融合。经过40多年的努力，这些国家在欧盟内部找到了一些共同点，但在文化上仍然非常不同。这很遗憾，因为我的一个普鲁士朋友曾经对我说：“德国和英国（融合一体），是可以控制整个欧洲的”。不幸或幸运的是，英国人把我们的自然角色留给了法国。我相信我们本可以做得更好。这对法国来说可能有点不公平。他们说，法国拥有所有的工程技术，德国公司曾向那里派遣间谍，因为尽管德国人生产得更好，伟大的研发理念来自法国；但一概而论也许风险太大。
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R Claire Mitchell
What if the UK became an American state?
It would totally dominate the House of Representatives for a start. Especially if, as would be most likely, it was admitted as four separate states in which case it would add eight more seats to the Senate. Many English people might feel that London should be a fifth state and then the UK would be one sixth of the Senate. American Republicans who who somehow believe the Democrats are in any way centre-left, let alone socialist, won’t know what’s hit them. Those British congresspeople wouldn’t of course fall in with the Republican/Democrat split but would form alliances with like-minded colleagues from New York, Illinois, California and Massachusetts. The US would never look the same again.

如果英国变成了美国的一个州呢？
一开始，它将完全控制众议院。特别是如果它被接纳为四个独立的州，在这种情况下，它将在参议院增加八个席位，这将是最有可能的。许多英国人可能会觉得伦敦应该成为第五个州，然后英国将拥有参议院六分之一的席位。美国共和党人认为民主党在任何方面都是中左翼，更不用说社会主义者了，他们不知道自己受到了什么打击。这些英国国会议员当然不会因共和党/民主党而分裂，而是会与来自纽约、伊利诺伊州、加利福尼亚州和马萨诸塞州的志同道合的同事结成联盟。美国再也不会是原来的样子了。

Jeff Dray
What would happen if the UK joined the United States as a new state?
The USA would have to buck their ideas up, elect a proper leader, adopt UK gun laws, raise food standards to a adequate level, learn to make chocolate properly, put all the Us back into the English language, improve their pronunciation and learn about democracy.

如果英国作为一个新州加入美国，会发生什么？
美国必须鼓励他们的想法，选出一位合适的领导人，通过英国枪支法，将食品标准提高到足够高的水平，学会正确制作巧克力，让所有的美国人回归英式英语，改善他们的发音，学习民主。

Foxmeister
First of all, let's address the elephant in the room: the name. Should it be the United States of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? Or perhaps the United Kingdom of America and Canada? Maybe we could get really creative and go with something like the Super Awesome Mega Nation (SAMN)? Whatever we choose, it's sure to cause a stir among both populations, with Brits and Americans arguing over who should come first in the name.
Next up, we have the political system. Would we stick with the Westminster system, or adopt the US presidential system? Maybe we could create a hybrid system where the president is also the prime minister, and every decision is made through a Twitter poll. Alternatively, we could just get rid of politics altogether and let Simon Cowell make all the important decisions.
Speaking of Simon Cowell, what about the culture clash? The US is known for its fast-paced, in-your-face entertainment, while the UK is all about subtle humor and stiff upper lips. How would we reconcile these two opposing forces? Perhaps we could have an American Idol-style competition where contestants have to recite Shakespeare monologues while doing the Macarena. Or maybe we could just combine the best of both worlds and have a show where people eat hot dogs while watching Downton Abbey.

首先，让我们谈谈明显存在的问题：它的名字。应该是大不列颠及北爱尔兰联合王国吗？或者美国和加拿大联合王国？也许我们可以更有创意一些，比如“超级棒的超级大国”——Super Awesome Mega Nation (SAMN)？无论我们选择什么名字，这肯定会在两国人民中引起轰动，英国人和美国人会争论谁的名字应该排在前面。
接下来是政治体系。我们会坚持威斯敏斯特制度，还是采用美国总统制？也许我们可以创建一个总统兼总理的混合体系，每一个决定都是通过推特民意调查做出的。或者，我们可以完全摆脱政治，让西蒙·考威尔做所有重要的决定。
说到西蒙·考威尔，那文化冲突呢？美国人以快节奏、直白的娱乐方式著称，而英国人则以微妙的幽默和不苟言笑著称。我们将如何调和这两股对立的力量？也许我们可以举办一场《美国偶像》风格的比赛，参赛者在表演《马卡雷纳》时必须背诵莎士比亚的独白。或者，我们可以把两者的优点结合起来，举办一个节目，让人们在观看《唐顿庄园》时吃热狗。

Of course, we can't forget about the language barrier. Even though both countries speak English, there are still some differences that could cause confusion. For example, Americans say "sidewalk" while Brits say "pavement." And don't get me started on the pronunciation of "schedule." Maybe we could just invent a new language altogether, like a blend of English, Cockney rhyming slang, and Valley Girl speak. It could be called "Cockney Valley Girl" or "Cockney Valley Speak," or perhaps just "CVS" for short.
Finally, there's the issue of geography. The UK is a small island nation, while the US is a massive continent-spanning country. How would we merge these two vastly different land masses? Perhaps we could build a bridge across the Atlantic Ocean, or dig a massive tunnel that connects New York City to London. Or maybe we could just say "screw it" and build a new country in space. After all, if Elon Musk can launch a car into orbit, why can't we launch a country?
In conclusion, a UK-US merger would be an absolute hoot. Sure, there would be some logistical challenges to overcome, but with a little creativity and a lot of British humor, we could create a new nation that's truly one-of-a-kind. So let's raise a cup of tea (or a Budweiser) to the possibility of a Super Awesome Mega Nation, and let's see what kind of crazy adventures we can get up to. Cheers, mate!

当然，我们不能忘记语言障碍。尽管这两个国家都说英语，但仍有一些差异可能会引起混乱。例如，“人行道”美国人用“sidewalk”，而英国人用“pavement”。别跟我说"schedule "的发音。也许我们可以发明一种新的语言，比如英语、伦敦东区莱姆豪斯地区的韵律俚语和山谷女孩语的混合。它可以被称为“Cockney Valley Girl”或“Cockny Valley Speak”，或者简称为“CVS”。
最后，还有地理问题。英国是一个小岛屿国家，而美国是一个横跨大陆的大国。我们将如何将这两块截然不同的土地合并在一起？也许我们可以建造一座横跨大西洋的桥梁，或者挖一条连接纽约市和伦敦的巨大隧道。或者我们可以说“算了”，在太空中建立一个新的国家。毕竟，如果埃隆·马斯克能把汽车发射到轨道上，为什么我们不能发射一个国家上去呢？
总而言之，英美合并绝对是一件可笑的事。当然，会有一些后勤方面的挑战需要克服，但只要有一点创造力和英式幽默，我们就能建立一个真正独一无二的新国家。所以，让我们举杯（或百威啤酒），让我们看看我们能进行什么样的疯狂冒险。干杯,伙计！

Richard Orme
What would be the benefit of a UK-US merger and why?
The UK has the following that would be beneficial to the USA —
A national health service that doesn't want to bankrupt it's people.
Political parties from each side of the spectrum instead of just two right wing parties.
Sensible gun laws meaning we have barely any mass shootings.
The Royal Family
A functioning democracy
Better standard of living
Better working conditions, with actual holiday time and pay.
Better education system by the looks of it.

英美合并的好处是什么？为什么？
英国有以下几点对美国有利：
一个不想让人民破产的国家医疗服务机构。
来自各党派的政党，而不是只有两个右翼政党。
合理的枪支法意味着我们几乎不会发生大规模枪击事件。
皇室
是一个运转良好的民主国家
更好的生活水平
更好的工作条件，有真正的假期和工资。
从表面上看，有一个更好的教育体系。

David Rishel
I find the answers here to be rather amusing, no offence to our UK cousins across the pond. The three responses here seem to be written by folks from the UK and their tone is one of "conditions" that the UK would expect if such a unx were to take place. To use one of your phrases, don't you think you are being a bit cheeky? Let me give you a Yank's point of view on this (keep your tongue firmly in your cheek now...). First off, what makes you think that the United States would even be interested? You have some nice real estate, to be sure, but your historical economic performance has been a bit spotty ever since you let go of your empire. Militarily you are pretty good, but here again your forces have shrunk recently and that trajectory does not seem to be headed back up any time soon. We do like the whole Oxford and Cambridge thing; that is a big selling point! While many yanks enjoy the quirks and pageantry of the monarchy, it is not something that has a place in a Federal republic, so it would have to go the way of Hawaii's Queen Liliuokalani. I'm sorry, but there it is. As for representation in the US government, what would make the most sense would be for each country of the United Kingdom to come aboard as a US State, which would give each two senators and proportional elected representatives in the House, as well as a similarly proportional number of Electoral College votes for the presidency. You guys can decide how you want to cast those. The whole English Law thing is certainly nice, but each of your states is going to have to write an actual constitution which grounds ultimate power and liberty in the people and then grants it to the state on their behalf, rather than your current construct of ultimate power starting with the Monarch and then devolving it to the people.

我发现这里的答案相当有趣，无意冒犯大洋彼岸的英国表亲。这里的三个回复似乎是由英国人写的，如果这样的联盟成立，英国所期望的“条件”之一是”他们说话的声调“。用你的一个短语，你不觉得你有点厚颜无耻吗？让我给你一个美国佬的观点（现在保持沉默…）：首先，你认为美国感兴趣的会是什么？你确实有不错的房产，但自从你放弃了你的帝国，你的历史经济表现就有点不稳定了。军事上你们很好，但是你们的军队最近又萎缩了，而且这种趋势似乎不会很快恢复。我们确实喜欢整个牛津和剑桥的东西，这是一大卖点！虽然许多美国佬喜欢君主制的怪癖和壮观，但它在联邦共和国没有立足之地，所以它必须像夏威夷女王利留卡拉尼（ Liliuokalani）那样。我很抱歉，但事实确实如此。至于在美国政府中的代表权，最合理的做法是让英国的每个地区都作为美国的一个州而存在，这样每个州就会有两名参议员和两名按比例选出的众议院代表，以及同样比例的总统选举团票，你们可以自行分配。整个英国法律当然很好，但是你们的每个州都必须写一部真正的宪法，把最终的权力和自由赋予人民，然后代表人民把它授予国家，而不是你们现在的最终权力从君主开始，然后移交给人民。

We had a tiff about this in the late 1700's and we don't want to go through all that again! I think that would be about it. Maybe you could make the case to break England up into several states roughly paralleled the Regions of England, but we'd have to collapse a few, lest we end up with more states like Rhode Island and Delaware, which we are not going to let happen again. I think London would also have to be rolled into the state of Southeast England (that would be the new name) as well. I've no idea what you will all do about flags for all those states, but you have lots of lovely crests and coats of arms and tartans and such, so I'm sure you'll come up with something. Of course, beyond all of that, there are the few remaining colonies (I know they are called "Overseas Territories" now, but why use a two word euphemism when one old word will do nicely), some of which I don't think we'd really want. We'd be happy to take Bermuda (it's kind of already American), the Caribbean colonies, your Mediterranean colonies (particularly Gibraltar; this give us a chance to needle Spain again 100 years after we kicked them out of Cuba and the Philippines), the BIOT (which we kind of already run), Ascension Island (again, which we kind of already run) and maybe Tristan de Cunha . I don't know what to do about St Helena... I'm also not sure what we'd do with the Falklands and such down in the Southern Atlantic, but it might be fun to park an aircraft carrier battle group in Stanley harbor and invite the Argies over to talk about this whole Malvinas thing... That embarrassing sex scandal thing on Pitcarin Island has probably put an end to the long-term prospects for the inhabitants of those islands, so that one will probably just go by the wayside on its own. As for the rest of the commonwealth, well, I suppose someone else could adopt the Monarchy (maybe Australia?) but they have all kind of gone their separate ways anyway.

我们在18世纪末为此发生过争吵，我们不想再经历这一切！我想就是这样。也许你可以把英国划分成几个与英格兰大区大致差不多的州，但我们必须分解几个州，否则我们最终会有更多的州，比如罗德岛州和特拉华州，我们不会让这种情况再次发生。我认为伦敦也必须被纳入英格兰东南部(这将是新名称)。我不知道你们会怎么处理这些州的旗帜，但你们有很多可爱的徽章、纹章和苏格兰的格子图案等等，所以我相信你们会想出一些办法的。当然，除此之外，还有为数不多的殖民地（我知道他们现在被称为“海外领土”，但为什么要用两个词的委婉说法，因为（殖民地）这个旧词就很好），其中一些我认为我们是真的不想要。我们很乐意占领百慕大（它已经是美国的了）、加勒比海殖民地、你们的地中海殖民地（尤其是直布罗陀，在我们把西班牙赶出古巴和菲律宾100年后，这给了我们一个再次刺痛西班牙的机会）、英属印度洋领地（BIOT 我们已经经营了）、阿森松岛（我们也经营了），也许还有特里斯坦-达库尼亚岛。我不知道该怎么处理圣赫勒拿岛。我也不确定我们会对福克兰群岛和南大西洋的其他地方做什么，但把航母战斗群停在斯坦利港，邀请阿根廷人过来讨论整个马尔维纳斯群岛的事情，可能会很有趣。皮特凯恩群岛（Pitcairn Islands）上那件令人尴尬的性丑闻可能已经终结了这些岛屿居民的长期前景，所以这个地方可能会自己被忽略掉。至于英联邦的其他国家，好吧，我想其他人也可以采用君主政体（也许澳大利亚会如此），但无论如何，他们都各行其是。
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Ian Jackson
What would a UK-US merge look like?
Well, the question pre-suppose this has happened so it's futile to engage in a debate as to how unlikely such a unx would be... though it is very unlikely indeed!
One must assume that some sort of deal would have been struck. After all, the unx would expand America's GDP considerably. The UK would probably insist on being over- represented in congress with Representatives being calculated by population base and senators... well the UK has three times the population of Florida the most populous state in the US. My feeling is that they would get more than two senators... maybe the UK would be called a 'Super State' or something.
The UK would have to sign up to the constitution which would suck because we REALLY don't want your gun crime over here. Certain guarantees would have to be made and my guess is the 'super state' would retain an awful lot of autonomy which, frankly would piss Americans off. We'd refuse to give away our free health care, we'd refuse to get rid of the queen, we'd refuse to be led by Donald Trump...
You know. It just wouldn't work.

英美合并会是什么样子？
好吧，问题是，假设这已经发生了，所以讨论这样一个联盟有多不可能是徒劳的。虽然这是不太可能的!尽管这确实不太可能！
人们必须假设，双方会达成某种协议。毕竟，联盟将令美国的GDP大大增加。英国可能会坚持在国会中拥有过多的代表，代表人数由人口基数和参议员计算…英国的人口是佛罗里达州的三倍，而佛罗里达州是美国人口最多的州。我的感觉是，他们会得到两名以上的参议员席位。也许英国会被称为“超级州”之类的。
英国将不得不签署宪法，这将是糟糕的，因为我们真的不希望在这里出现枪支犯罪。必须做出某些保证，我的猜测是“超级州”将保留很多自治权，坦率地说，这将激怒美国人。我们拒绝放弃我们的免费医疗服务体系，我们拒绝摆脱女王，我们拒绝由唐纳德·特朗普领导。
你知道的，这根本行不通。

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