日本的人口问题：低迷的出生率，超过十分之一的人口在80岁以上
Japan’s population is getting old, faster
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在日本这个国家的1.24亿人口中，目前有超过十分之一的人年龄在80岁或以上...日本的人口正在变得越来越老，而且过程越来越快..
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In Japan, more than 1 in 10 people of the country’s 124 million population are now aged 80 or older, according to a new report published by Japan’s Ministry of Internal Affairs on August 18, 2023. Japan’s fast-ageing population has forced the government to raise healthcare and pension spending. It has also introduced a package of wide-ranging measures to curb the country’s falling birth rate. But so far those measures have failed to reverse the trend.
日本内务省2023年8月18日发布的一份新报告显示，在日本这个国家的1.24亿人口中，目前有超过十分之一的人年龄在80岁或以上。日本人口快速老龄化迫使政府提高医疗保健和养老金支出。日本还推出了一系列广泛的措施来遏制该国出生率的下降。但到目前为止，这些措施未能扭转这一趋势。
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It's not just about low birthrates. It's about average lifespans which is way longer than other countries (e.g. Japan's average lifespan is 85, where the US's is 77). Japan's birthrate is among the highest in East Asia (surprising, but true), but Japan has these problems because people never die.
这不仅仅是低出生率的问题。这还和平均寿命有关，日本比其他国家寿命长得多（日本人的平均寿命是85 岁，美国是77岁）。日本的出生率是东亚地区最高的之一（很令人惊讶，但却是事实），但日本还是存在这些问题，因为人们不死。
Its because japan is first asia country facing low birthrate since long time ago, why china n korea not? Because japan is first developed asia nation, why developed western countries not super ageing like japan ? Arent they developed nation in same time? Yes but japan strict immigrants to protect cultures since long time ago, meanwhile wastern already open
这是因为日本很久以前就是亚洲第一个面临低出生率的国家了，为什么中国和韩国没有呢？因为日本是亚洲第一个发达国家。为什么西方发达国家没有像日本那样超级老龄化？他们不是同一时代发达的吗？是的，但日本很早以前就严格限制移民以保护自己的文化，而同时西方已经开放....
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Why russia not facing super ageing like japan? Russia look like not open immigration, unlike west. But in fact Russia actually open immigrants too but mostly come from former soviet nations, so their immigrants not different in cultures n look compare to pure russians.
为什么俄罗斯没有像日本那样面临超级老龄化呢？俄罗斯看起来也没有和西方一样，开放移民啊。但事实上，俄罗斯其实也开放移民，但大多来自前苏联国家，所以他们的移民在文化上和纯种俄罗斯人看起来并没有什么不同。
@yogadarmawan3051 wdym Korea birthrate is even lower than japan
yogadarmawan3051，你在说什么啊，韩国的出生率甚至比日本还低..
birthrate is very low at 1.26 this is below the replacement rate of 2.10.. highest but not near the replacement..
（日本的）出生率非常低，为 1.26，低于2.10的世代更替率。（东亚）最高但都没有挨到更替率的边。
Why no birth? Japan rich country. People have enough money to rear children. Increase birth rate.
为什么不生小孩？ 日本是富裕国家，人们有足够的钱养育孩子。 提高出生率！
suprisingly ? They are one of the G7 of the world, and has super strict rules on food safety
惊讶吗？ 他们是七国集团之一，对食品安全有着超严格的规定。
@yogadarmawan3051 "Why russia not facing super ageing like japan?" There are a number of reasons: Russia's Total Fertility Rate (TFR) is around 1.5, which is not terribly high or low. But Russia has problems with severe alcoholism and many people die before they grow old. That, in a way keeps the population young.
“为什么俄罗斯没有像日本那样面临超级老龄化？”原因有很多：俄罗斯的总和生育率在1.5左右，并不是特别高或者特别低。但俄罗斯存在严重的酗酒问题，很多人未老先死。这在某种程度上使他们的人口保持年轻。
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@yogadarmawan3051 china and korean birthrate is also very low not with recently china in 2022 having the lowest since the 1940s
@Yogadarmawan3051 中国和韩国的出生率也很低，中国最近2022年是自1940年代以来的最低水平。
@yogadarmawan3051 Not sure about other countries, but in the U.S specifically, I believe that the replacement rate is supplemented by immigration, which means that offsetting the declining birth rates, people are migrating to the country. A lot of developed countries fall into the issue of declining birthrates.
@Yogadarmawan3051 我不知道其他国家是啥情况，但在美国，我认为替代率是由移民补充的，这意味着（移民的出生率）抵消了（原有人群）下降的出生率，人们正在移民美国。有很多的发达国家，都陷入了出生率下降的问题。
Japan’s economy has stagnated for three decades. No matter how hard the younger generation works, they can not reach the wealth level of their parents. When younger generation cannot see a brighter, better future, why to bring a baby to this world?
日本的经济停滞了三十年。无论年轻一代有多努力，他们都无法达到父母那一代的财富水平。当年轻一代看不到更明亮，更美好的未来时，为什么要把婴儿带到这个世界？
One of the reasons why the number of marriages has decreased is because people are freed from the idea that they have to get married.
As the number of marriages decreases, the number of children also decreases.
婚姻数量减少的原因之一是因为人们摆脱了必须结婚的想法。
随着婚姻数量的减少，儿童人数也减少了。
Japan's decades of crazy work-life balance finally showing its results.
日本数十年来疯狂的工作与生活的平衡（方式）终于显露后果了。
But in terms of actual numbers(not fractions not percentage), Japan still has a high population for its small land area. 300 people per km² population density. Right?
但是就实际数量而言（不是按照分数也不是按照百分比来算），相对于它很小的土地面积，它的人口仍然很高，每平方公里300人，对吧？
The problem is Work Culture and stress.
Japanese Society is literally like ants. People work themselves nonstop and to death. And some people with wives / husbands not even going home but staying in hotels to be closer to work, and not making babies.
问题在于工作文化和压力。
日本社会简直就像蚂蚁一样，人们不停地工作，还有一些有妻子/丈夫的人甚至不回家，而是住在酒店，以便离工作地点更近，并且不生孩子。
There cannot be any meaningful change unless there is a change in Japanese society first.
除非日本社会首先发生变化，否则不可能出现任何有意义的变化。
Japan has a population of 125 million people, they're gonna be fine
日本有1.25亿人口，他们会没事的....
Japan is too expensive to give birth while they does not get enough income from the job
日本的生育成本太高，而他们却无法从工作中获得足够的收入。
Everyone gives birth like a cat in Indonesia.. Even the poor society has a lot of kids without consider their financial ability. Developed country's society thinks carefully to have child but in Indonesia they just do it first then think later.. It is also useless when a country has enough population but mostly are poor because they have too many poor kids to be fed..
在印度尼西亚，人们生孩子就像猫一样。即使（他们）是贫穷的社会，但也有很多孩子，而不考虑他们的经济能力。发达国家的社会会很仔细地考虑要孩子，但在印度尼西亚，他们是先做再想。当一个国家有足够的人口但大多数都很穷时，这也是没有用的，因为他们有太多贫穷的孩子要养活。
japan is hostile to foreign immigrants.. period even for halfies.. my friend who is half japanese suffered discrimination with the family of his father when he availed of Japan's naturalization for half japanese.. he did not finish the program and migrated to Finland
日本对外国移民充满敌意.....即使对于混血都是如此.....我的朋友有一半日本血统，当他利用自己半日本人的身份入籍时，他遭受了来自父亲家人的歧视..他没有继续入籍，并移民到了芬兰。
China as well as Korea followed that path which has aging population and shrinking population issues too, that's inevitable coz their culture are similar lol
中国和韩国都走上了人口老龄化和人口萎缩问题的道路，这是不可避免的，因为他们的文化相似...
You have to remember that china has 1b people
Compare that to Japan who only has 100m
你得记住，中国有十亿人，相比之下日本只有一亿。
Will Bharat (India) follow Japanese path?
巴拉特（印度）会和日本一样吗？
Many people are mistaken, but birthrate declines are a problem not only in East Asia, but in all developed countries. The reason why Europe and the U.S. are doing better than East Asia is because they are taking in large numbers of immigrants. If immigration were eliminated, the birth rate in Europe and the U.S. would be almost the same as in East Asia. Finland, for example, is said to have the best welfare system for children in the world, but that is not helping the fertility rate. Finland's birth rate is almost the same as Japan's. Basically, the decline in the birth rate is due to capitalism and the rising cost of living.
很多人都错了，但出生率下降不仅是东亚的问题，也是所有发达国家的问题。 欧洲和美国之所以比东亚做得更好，是因为它们吸收了大量移民。如果去掉移民，欧洲和美国的出生率将几乎与东亚相同。举个例子，芬兰，据说拥有世界上最好的儿童福利体系，但这并没有帮助提高生育率，芬兰的出生率几乎与日本相同。 基本上，出生率下降是由于资本主义和生活成本上升造成的。
@AIIIAKS-vn4co are you sure?
楼上，你确定吗？
@kenyup7936 Yeah, I'm sure. A lot of people want to make the birthrate decline an Asian thing, but it's happening in the West, too. For example, in 2023, the birth rate in Japan will be 1.39, in Italy it will be 1.24, and in Spain it will be 1.29. And the only reason we haven't seen a population decline in the West is because they're taking in tons of immigrants. Your claim that the population is declining because they are prioritizing the elderly is completely unfounded. And there are countries in Africa, Southeast Asia, South Asia, etc. that respect the elderly as well as East Asia, but the birth rates in those countries are high.
是的，我确定。很多人想把“出生率下降”说成是亚洲的事情，但这种情况也在西方发生。例如，2023年，日本的出生率为1.39，意大利为1.24，西班牙为1.29。我们没有看到西方人口下降的唯一原因，是他们吸收了大量的移民。你说人口下降是因为优先考虑老年人的说法是完全没有根据的。 而且非洲、东南亚、南亚等国家也和东亚一样尊重老人，但这些国家的出生率很高。
Japanese people don’t have time for family. They dedicate most of their time with work.
日本人没有时间给家庭。他们把大部分时间都花在工作上。
Prime Minister Kishida keep saying ``last chance.' but
In Japan, the first baby boom occurred in the 1950s, when young war veterans returned from the war, and that generation born in 50s caused the second baby boom in the 1970s and 1980s.
but, that 2nd baby boom generation did not have children due to unstable employment due to economic decline, the Japanese government's deregulation policies, and neoliberal policies in 90s to today. They are almost 50 and can't have any more children.
Japan's last chance has already passed.
岸田首相一直说“最后的机会”。但是在日本，第一次婴儿潮发生在1950年代，当时年轻的退伍军人从战争中归来，而1950年代出生的一代，又引发了1970年代和1980年代的第二次婴儿潮。
但是，由于经济衰退、日本政府管制政策的放松以及90年代至今的新自由主义政策，由于这些导致的就业不稳定，婴儿潮的第二代没有孩子。现在，他们差不多50岁了，不能再要孩子了。
日本最后的机会已经过去了。
How to age faster? My 2-year old daughter wants to be 17, is it possible by next week?
怎样才能老得更快？ 我2岁的女儿想要变成17岁，下周可以吗？
30年前に少子化対策に本気で取り組むべきだった。
そうすれば、少しは緩和できたかも。
もはや手遅れ。
30年前，我们就应该认真采取措施应对少子化问题。
那样可能会缓解一点。
现在已经太晚了。
Why does that matter? Japan imports cheap TFW to fill the gaps. Doling out free money isn’t going to make people have kids, Canada has a socialist program just like this and it’s still declining for decades.
为什么这很重要？日本引入廉价的临时外国工人来填补空白就行。发放免费资金并不会让人们生孩子，加拿大有一个这样的社会主义计划，但几十年来它的（生出率）仍然在下降。
japan has to find a way to force people into merriage without harming them
日本必须找到一种方法，在不伤害人们的情况下迫使人们结婚。
Japan culture is from China
日本文化源自中国。
Time for immigrants to enter Japan.
是时候让移民进入日本了。
Maybe consider immigration as a partial solution like Canada
也许像加拿大一样将移民视为部分解决方案。
Immigration would solve that
移民就能解决这个问题。
Single Indian men are ready to give seeds to Japanese women to increase the population, and I want to ask if Japanese women like handsome Indian men.
印度单身男人准备给日本女人..来增加人口，我想问下日本女人喜不喜欢印度帅哥...