QA问答：如果特朗普在2024年获胜，在他坐在椭圆形办公室的第二天，他的1500万支持者全副武装，对全国各地民主党控制的城市，进行先发制人的打击。如果在他掌权的情况下，接下来会发生什么事情？
If Trump wins in 2024, and the day after he''s seated in the Oval Office 15 million of his supporters, heavily armed, make a preemptive strike against the Democratic run cities across the country, what would happen in response if he''s in charge?
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看来你忘了我们自由党控制着犹太太空激光。乔治·索罗斯一下达命令，你们这些傻瓜就会在几毫秒内被蒸发掉。
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If Trump wins in 2024, and the day after he's seated in the Oval Office 15 million of his supporters, heavily armed, make a preemptive strike against the Democratic run cities across the country, what would happen in response if he's in charge?
如果特朗普在2024年获胜，在他坐在椭圆形办公室的第二天，他的1500万支持者全副武装，对全国各地民主党控制的城市，进行先发制人的打击。如果在他掌权的情况下，接下来会发生什么事情？
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如果特朗普在2024年获胜，在他坐在椭圆形办公室的第二天，他的1500万支持者全副武装，对全国各地民主党控制的城市，进行先发制人的打击。如果在他掌权的情况下，接下来会发生什么事情？
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How exactly would that be “preemptive”? What exactly do you think you are preempting?
You really think you can manage to gather up a force ten times larger that than the entire active duty roster of the US military in a coordinated attack like this?
What is with all these murder fantasies anyway?
到底要怎么样“先发制人”？你认为要抢占的到底是什么？
你真的认为，你能召集一支比美军现役部队规模大十倍的部队，进行这样的协同作战？
这些谋杀幻想到底是怎么回事？
Thank you for confirming that Trump cultists hate freedom, democracy and America with a white-hot passion and can’t wait to establish a fascist dictatorship.
感谢你证实，特朗普邪教分子怀着炽热的热情，憎恨自由、民主和美国，迫不及待地想建立法西斯独裁政权。
You know, the strangest thing about all of this is that trumps followers think he actually cares about them. But the saddest part is, he wouldn't even piss on them if they were on fire.
Trump only cares about trump, true story.
你知道，这一切最奇怪的地方是，特朗普的追随者，居然认为特朗普实际上真的关心他们。但最可悲的是，如果他们着火了，特朗普甚至不会在他们身上撒尿。
特朗普只关心胜利（双关：特朗普），真实的故事。
So the premise is that Trump wins the election, and in response his supporters feel emboldened to lay siege to the nearest major city near them filled with evil liberals.
Wow! So much for the “You better vote for Trump or you’ll be sorry” argument.
Seriously though, the gun lobby in the US has spent the past 50 years tirelessly doing everything in their power to see to it that every man, woman and child in the country has access to guns. They have been largely successful in their efforts. There are far more guns than people in this country.
What exactly do you expect will happen when this hypothetical crazed MAGA mob descends on liberal American cities across the country? Do you not realize those liberals are armed too?
前提是特朗普赢得了选举，作为回应，他的支持者感到有勇气，可以去围攻他们附近最近的一个充满邪恶自由主义者的大城市。
哇！“你最好投票给特朗普，否则你会后悔”的论点到此为止。
不过，说真的，美国的枪支游说团体，在过去50年里不知疲倦地尽其所能，确保这个国家的每个男人、女人和儿童都能获得枪支。他们的努力在很大程度上取得了成功。这个国家的枪支比人还要多得多。
你假想中的疯狂MAGA暴徒，如果真的袭击全国各地的自由派美国城市，你预计会发生什么？你有没有意识到，那些自由主义者也是有武装的？
If Trump wins in 2024, that’s a really big IF! “The day after he's seated in the Oval Office 15 million of his supporters, heavily armed, make a preemptive strike against the Democratic run cities across the country.” Is something he sanctions or independent? The Constitution requires that he obey the law. They would be considered insurrectionists more than likely. He could not condone or fail to act in that situation. If he did, it could fall under 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason.
The Governors of those states could activate their NG units in response as well Congress could assume control of any military necessary to put down any threat. “What would happen in response if he's in charge?” As president the Constitution Article II, Section 3 (Take Care Clause), demands that the president obey the law, and to ensure that a law is faithfully executed by the president even if he disagrees with the purpose of that law. Finally, the president may not refuse to enforce a constitutional law or take an action not authorized either by the Constitution or by a lawful statute. If such a situation occurred under his watch, he wouldn’t be sitting in the Oval Office for very long.
如果特朗普在2024年获胜，那将是一个巨大的如果！
“在他坐在椭圆形办公室的第二天，他的1500万支持者将全副武装，对全国各地民主党控制的城市进行了先发制人的打击。”
他这是要独裁还是要独立？
宪法要求他遵守法律。他们很可能会被认为是叛乱者。在这种情况下，他不能宽恕或不采取行动。如果他这样做了，这可能属于《美国法典》第18条第2381款——叛国罪：任何曾宣誓效忠美国的人，对美国发动战争或依附其敌国，并向后者提供援助和表示支持，都被视为叛国罪。
这些州的州长可以启动他们的国民警卫队作为回应，国会也可以控制任何必要的军事力量来平息任何威胁。
“如果在他掌权的情况下，接下来会发生什么事情？”
作为总统，宪法第二条第3款（注意条款）要求总统遵守法律，并确保总统忠实的执行法律，即使他不同意该法律的目的。
最后，总统不得拒绝执行宪法，或采取未经宪法或合法法规授权的行动。如果在他的监督下发生这样的情况，他不会在椭圆形办公室坐很长时间。
Is this the kind of person you are? You sit in the basement plotting with your online “friends” to kill people in your own country? To kill children? No wonder your only sense of worth is based on your guns.
You’re also admitting Trump is an authoritarian dictator, and you are nothing more than a follower who is too weak to think for yourself. You’re the opposite of an American and a disgrace to OUR American values.
你就是这样的人吗？你坐在地下室里，和你网上的“朋友”密谋在你自己的国家杀人？杀死孩子？难怪你唯一的价值感是建立在你的枪上的。
你也承认特朗普是一个独裁者，你只不过是一个软弱到无法独立思考的追随者。你是美国人的反面，是我们美国价值观的耻辱。
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It’s hard to really know whether these are sincere questions or if these are bait, but here’s what history tells us happens next after a purge of one’s political opponents.
It starts out with “let’s get rid of all those horrible people who are keeping us from doing something really great.” The thought is that leadership is going to make life wonderful for the normal people once the horrible people are out of the way.
If it starts to work, then 1) the leader gets more powerful and more interested in even more power, to the exclusion of all the good things you might be thinking he was gonna do, and 2) the list of who the leader had decided are the “horrible” people grows and the list of “normal” people gets smaller.
Pol Pot started by rounding up liberal elites and trying to re-educate them to understand that the common man deserves more respect. A few years later, he is (no joke) rounding up everyone who wears glasses and sending them and their families to the killing fields.
it’s the same arc that hundreds of leaders have followed in the last thousand years and there are very few exceptions to how it ends. Pinochet, Mugabe, Stalin, Hitler, Kim Il-Sung, Marcos, Amin, Milosovic…
Seriously, if you can find an example in the last hundred years of violence against fellow citizens with different beliefs working out for the best, I’ll admit I’m an idiot.
It’s a tempting thought, but it’s a one way street toward totalitarian rule and ultimately collapse.
真的很难知道这个问题的真诚程度。这是在钓鱼吗？但历史告诉了我们，在清除政治对手后，接下来会发生什么。
它的开头是：“让我们摆脱那些阻止我们做真正伟大事情的可怕的人。”
这个想法是意思是，一旦可怕的人离开，领导者就会让普通人的生活变得美好。
如果它开始奏效，那么：
1、领导者变得更强大，对更多的权力更感兴趣，你认为他会做的所有好事都会被排除在外。
2、领导者决定的“可怕”的人的名单越来越多，“正常”的人名单越来越少。
Pol Pot （民主柬埔寨曾经的最高领导人）开始的时候，是召集自由派精英，并试图重新教育他们，让他们明白普通人应该得到更多的尊重。几年后，他（不是开玩笑的）把每个戴眼镜的人都召集起来，把他们和他们的家人送到大屠杀之地。
在过去的一千年里，数百位领导人都遵循着同样的弧线，而它的结局几乎没有例外。
皮诺切特、穆加贝、斯大林、希特勒、金日成、马科斯、Amin、米洛索维奇……
说真的，如果你能在过去一百年中，找到一个针对不同信仰的同胞的暴力行为，得到了好的结果的例子，我承认我是个白痴。
这是一个诱人的想法，但这是一条通往极权主义统治，并最终崩溃的单行道。
Election Day 2024 is on November 5.
He will not become President until Inauguration Day on January 20, 2025.
Democrats can attack republican controlled cities because all of the insurrectionists and their guns will be thousands of miles away.
Believe it or not, Dems own guns too.
A lot of those guns that are in circulation are owned by a much smaller group of gun nuts.
2024年的选举日，是11月5日。
他要到2025年1月20日的就职日，才能成为总统。
民主党人可以攻击共和党控制的城市，因为所有的叛乱者和他们的枪支，都将在数千英里之外。
信不信由你，民主党人也有枪。
流通中的许多枪支，都是由一个小得多的枪支迷群团体拥有的。
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Charles Eichelberger
I think you misunderstand how the military works. The military swears and oath to the Constitution, not the President. And part of that oath is to defend against all enemies, foriegn and domestic. 15 million traitors would be going against the Constitution and therefore the military, which is apolitical, would take care of that theat in pretty short order and I am sure that a vast majority of those 15 million have neven seen combat.
我想你误解了军队的运作方式。军队宣誓遵守宪法，而不是总统。誓言的一部分是抵御所有敌人，无论是国外的敌人还是国内的敌人。1500万叛徒将违反宪法，因此，不关心政治的军方，将在很短的时间内处理好这一问题，我相信这1500万人中的绝大多数人从未真正战斗过。
What kind of half witted child comes up with such a silly fantasy?
什么样愚蠢的孩子，会想出这样愚蠢的幻想？
he's not going to win in 2024.
Democrats and Independents are both armed and many are veterans so we're not only trained in how to shoot we're all so trained in how to run battles.
The military and the police are not allowed to follow unlawful orders and taking action against civilians being attacked by Trump supporters would be illegal
Who do you think is going to organize these supporters? They couldn't even organize a minor insurrection.
Most Trump supporters would screw up a wet dream.
I'd love to know what kind of drugs you'll take to come up with this shit
1、他不会在2024年获胜。
2、民主党人和无党派人士都有武装，许多人都是退伍军人，所以我们不仅受过如何射击的训练，而且都受过如何作战的训练。
3、军方和警方，不允许遵守非法命令。他们如果对受到特朗普支持者袭击的平民采取行动，这是非法的。
4、你认为谁能组织起这些支持者？他们甚至不能组织一次小规模的暴动。
5、大多数特朗普的支持者，连一场春梦都能搞砸。
我很想知道，你是嗑了什么药，才能制造出这个大便一样的问题。
15 million!! You certainly have a vivid fantasy life in the trailer park don't you? You couldn't gather up more than a couple of thousand of those fat fucks , and they will be dispensed with rather quickly.
1500万！！你肯定是在拖车公园里，过着生动的幻想生活，是这样吗？你收集不到超过几千个这样的胖子，他们很快就会被抛弃。
Trump isn’t even going to win. So stop thinking about him winning. It’s a dream that’ll never happen.
特朗普甚至不会赢。所以别想着他会赢。这是一个永远不会实现的梦想。
Kristan Overstreet
I am seeing more and more of these questions, which boil down to: “Hey liberals, what are you gonna do when we come to kill you?”
And rather than waste time answering the question directly, instead I have to ask: what makes conservatives think it’s a good idea to post crap like this?
“I know! We’ll convince the liberals that we’re gonna rise up and massacre ’em all if we don’t get everything we want! That’ll make them give up and never oppose us in ANY WAY, ever again! And surely they’d never dare to vote against us or do anything else to try to prevent us getting power, because they KNOW they’ll die when we DO get power! Isn’t that pure GENIUS?”
News flash, MAGAts; the more you tell us you’re planning to kill us if we don’t surrender to you, the LESS likely we become to do anything whatever for you. We have no reason to. You basically say, “Give us the power to kill you, or we’ll kill you.” Given those options, we’re going to go with Door Number Three- namely, making sure you never have the ability to put your sick fantasies into practice.
我已经看到了越来越多的这样的问题，可以归结为：“嘿，自由主义者，当我们来杀你的时候，你打算怎么办？”
与其浪费时间直接回答这个问题，我更想问你：是什么让保守派认为发布这样的垃圾是个好主意？
“我知道！我们会说服自由主义者的，如果我们得不到我们想要的一切，我们就会站起来屠杀他们！这会让他们放弃，再也不会以任何方式反对我们！当然，他们永远也不敢投票反对我们，也不敢做任何其他事情来阻止我们获得权力，因为他们知道，当我们获得权力时，他们会死的！这是不是天才的想法？”
新闻快讯：MAGA们，你越是告诉我们，如果我们不向你投降，你就打算杀了我们，我们就越不可能为你做任何事情。我们没有理由这么做。
你基本上是在说：“给我们杀了你的力量，否则我们会杀了你。”
考虑到这两种选择都不好，我选择第三条路，即确保你永远没有能力把你病态的幻想付诸实践。
Fuck around and find out. Republicans aren’t the only ones with guns
去你妈的，你到处去看看，共和党人并不是唯一持有枪支的人。
He can't even scrape together a few dozen protesters to show up at the court building where he's being arrested. I don't think we have much to worry about since the last time he rallied people to “save the country" over 500 of them ended up in jail while he watched and let them fend for themselves. Not a single dime to help any of his loyal subjects.
他连召集几十名抗议者出现在他被捕的法院大楼，都做不到。
我认为，看他上次召集人们“拯救国家”的表现，我们没有太多可担心的。500多人最终被关进了监狱，而他却看着他们自生自灭。没有出一分钱来帮助他的任何忠实臣民。
Ok how can questions like these be accepted but I can't call someone a moron without my comment being taken down?????
Also FBI if you're reading this, you better put the guy who asked this question on a watchlist. He's probably trolling, but you never know.
好吧，这样的问题怎么能被接受，但如果我不想我的评论被删除，我就不能喊某些人是白痴？？？？
还有联邦调查局，如果你在读这篇文章，你最好把问这个问题的人列入观察名单。他可能是在钓鱼，但你永远不会知道他是否真的有这个想法。
I'm taking this as yet another troll trying to sow division.
For the record, this scenario makes no sense whatsoever. People celebrate when they win an election. Trump supporters will believe American democracy has been saved. Why take up arms?
If your hope is that by asking this question, it will make liberals more likely to take up arms in violent protest and in pre-emptive self-defense, you might be on to something there. We need to build up better forms of dialog, conflict resolution and resilience against this type of hybrid warfare. I have some ideas on this, but for now, I ask readers to just consider that this type of question is a mechanism meant to drive division. Treat people like human beings, and encourage them to do the same. That will go a long way.
我认为这是另一个试图制造分裂的巨魔。
需要指出的是，这个方案毫无意义。人们在选举中获胜时会进行庆祝。特朗普的支持者，会相信美国的民主已经得到了拯救。为什么还会拿起武器？
如果你希望通过提出这个问题，让自由主义者更有可能拿起武器进行暴力抗议，和先发制人的自卫，那么你可能会有所收获。
我们需要建立更好的对话形式、解决冲突、具有对抗这种混合战争的弹性。
我对此有一些想法，但目前，我想请读者好好思考，这样的问题的目的就是推动分裂机制。
别人如何对待你，你就如何对待别人，并鼓励别人也这样做。这样才能走得更长远。
15 million Nazi supporters, huh? Well there are 150 million Americans who’ll put you down like butter melting on a baked potato. My father fought the Nazis in WW2, and I have an uncle buried in the American Cemetery in Normandy, France. He’s lain there since 18Jul44. I’m 70 years old, he died 8 years before I was born. For his sake — I don’t want him to have given up his life in vain — I’ll not put up with garbage like you, or the tramp you worship, either.
Oh, by the way, your turnip’ll be in jail by the time the next election is over, not the Oval Office.
1500万纳粹支持者，是吗？
好吧，会有1.5亿美国人，就像黄油融化在烤土豆上一样把你打倒。
我父亲在二战中与纳粹作战，我有一个叔叔被安葬在法国诺曼底的美国公墓。他从44年7月18日起就躺在那里了。
我70岁了，他在我出生前8年去世了。为了他——我不希望他是白白放弃了自己的生命——我也不会容忍你这样的垃圾，或者你崇拜的特朗普（流浪汉）。
哦，顺便说一句，下次选举结束时，你的特朗普（萝卜）会进监狱，而不是椭圆形办公室。
译注：他两次都把特朗普的名字打错了，不知道是无意的，还是有意的。
Wow, that’s about the biggest ammosexual masturbatory fantasy I’ve read in a long time.
Ain’t gonna happen. He can’t even get a decent crowd to protest on his behalf.
You also forget that liberals have a lot of guns, too. And we know the cities you’re planning to invade, so you’d be a great disadvantage.
哇，这是我很长时间以来，读到的最大的弹药性手淫幻想。
不会发生的。他甚至找不到一个像样的群众来代表他进行抗议。
你还忘记了，自由主义者也有很多枪。我们现在知道了你计划入侵的城市，所以你会处于极大的劣势。
(This question is from someone calling themselves Ansel Schlumberger. Ansel joined Quora this month and has submitted only one question: this one.)
So, Ansel or whoever you are….
You should be aware that the FBI is monitoring social media for threats like “if Trump wins in 2024, and the day after he's seated in the Oval Office 15 million of his supporters, heavily armed, make a preemptive strike against the Democratic run cities across the country…”
If you think using an alias will keep you safe, think again.
这个问题来自一个说自己叫做 Ansel Schlumberger 的人。这个Ansel 这个月才加入了QA，只提交了一个问题：就是这个问题。
所以，Ansel ，你是谁？
你应该知道，联邦调查局正在监控社交媒体上的威胁，比如：“如果特朗普在2024年获胜，在他坐在椭圆形办公室的第二天，他的1500万支持者全副武装，对全国各地民主党控制的城市，进行先发制人的打击……”
如果你认为使用化名可以保证你的安全，请三思。
I have a hard time understanding why anyone liberal, conservative or human would post this question. Trolling? But why? Personally I feel that Trump is as radical right as Biden is radical left and we need a candidate that gonna stand for all Americans. That’s the person that will unite this country.
我真的很难理解，是什么样的自由派、保守派或人类，能够提出这样的问题。
钓鱼？但是为什么？
就我个人而言，我觉得特朗普是激进的右翼，拜登是激进的左翼，我们需要一位能代表所有美国人的候选人。那就是将团结这个国家的人。
You obviously are not American. You have no idea what civilized people are. You are clueless about life in the United States and know absolutely nothing about the constitution or the law. This is not Russia, and we all know that Donnyassclown wants to destroy America and has absolutely no respect for the law or Americans. You have just admitted that tRump supporters are anti American terrorists which everyone already knows. His disgusting fat orange orangutan ass will NEVER EVER step foot in the Whitehouse again. His next step is going into prison. When he finally drops dead he will be thrown face first into a dumpster and set that shit on fire. I wouldn't bother spitting on it unless I was spitting gasoline.
你显然不是美国人。你根本不知道什么是文明人。你对美国的生活一无所知，对宪法或法律一无所知。
这不是俄罗斯，我们都知道特朗普这个小丑想要摧毁美国，绝对不尊重法律或美国人。你刚刚承认了特朗普的支持者是反美恐怖分子，大家都已经知道了。
他那恶心的橙色猩猩屁股再也不会踏进白宫了。他的下一步就是进监狱。当他最终死去时，他会被当面扔进垃圾箱，然后点燃那堆垃圾。除非我吐出的是汽油，否则我就是一口痰也不会吐在上面。
honestly I think you people get dumber every day … you are no more than hateful pos’s … you are under the assumption you are smarter, stronger and armed better … you should never assume anything… and btw… your orange slug will never be president again, he’s not human enough
老实说，我认为你们每天都在变傻……你们比那些可恨的无可救药的垃圾没有好一点……你们认为自己更聪明、更强壮、装备更好……你们永远不应该假设任何事情……顺便说一句……你们的橙色鼻涕虫再也不会当总统了，他的人类特征不够。
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Fifteen million? Heavily armed? Very funny. Trump is calling on his followers to protest now, and hardly anybody shows up.
After what happened to the Jan 6 rioters, there doesn’t seem to be much enthusiasm anymore for going to jail for Trump. Particularly as he has done nothing to help them.
But keep dreaming. And above all, keep donating money to pay for Trump’s battalion of lawyers, they charge $ 500 per hour or more. You don’t expect a poor billionaire to pay his bills himself, do you?
一千五百万？全副武装？非常有趣。特朗普现在呼吁他的追随者进行抗议，但几乎没有人出现。
在1月6日暴乱发生后，人们似乎不再有太多热情为特朗普入狱。尤其是他没有帮助他们。
但是继续做梦。最重要的是，继续捐款支付特朗普的律师团，他们每小时收费500美元或更多。你不会指望一个贫穷的亿万富翁自己付账吧？
A second Civil War.
You all seem to think Democrats are all unarmed - and as in many things, you’d be incorrect. Further, if you have a Democratic city, you probably have a largely Democratic police force of well trained officers… so where is your support of the thin blue line when they resist you with real weapons?
第二次内战。
你们似乎都认为民主党人都没有武装——就像在很多事情上一样，你们是不正确的。
此外，如果你想拥有一个民主党城市，你可能需要面对一支主要由受过良好训练的警察组成的民主党警察部队……那么，当他们用真正的武器抵抗你时，你有什么支援来面对抱团的警察部队。
First misconception: That trump has 15 million supporters willing to die for him. That’s laughable.But,assuming that a group,however large,did as you propose, they’d be stacking said trump supporters up like cordwood. There’d be a temporary shortage of both coffins and morgue space in Democratic-run cities.
第一个误解：特朗普有1500万支持者愿意为他而死。这很可笑。但是，假设真有这么一个团体，无论规模多大，都按照你的提议行事，他们如果敢说自己是特朗普的支持者，他们会被像积木一样被堆起来。在民主党控制的城市里，棺材和停尸房都会暂时短缺。
Trump will not be a candidate in 2024. He will be in prison. If 15 million heavily armed people try for a preemptive strike, they will quickly discover that logistics are the key problem. There is not enough food or ammunition to support them more than a few days, after which hordes of local police, state police, National Guards, Army and Marines will kill most of them. And we will have eliminated a self-identified threat to our country.
特朗普不会成为2024年的候选人。他将被关进监狱。如果1500万全副武装的人试图先发制人，他们很快会发现，后勤是个关键问题。没有足够的食物或弹药来支撑他们超过几天，之后成群的地方警察、州警察、国民警卫队、陆军和海军陆战队，将杀死他们中的大多数人。我们将消除我们自我认定的对我们国家有威胁的事物。
Trump. as president, would have no autonomy over local and state police and the National Guard in each state. His goon squad would be shut down quickly.
But the thought that he would have autonomy over the US Military is a scary thought and just another of many reasons to make sure that he does not get a glimpse of the oval office ever again.
特朗普。作为总统，他对每个州的地方警察、州警察、以及国民警卫队，没有自主权。他的暴徒小队很快就会被歇业。
但一想到他会对美国军方拥有自主权，这是一个可怕的想法，这也是要确保他不会再看到椭圆形办公室的众多原因之一。
Looks like you’ve forgotten that us LibrulCommies control the Jewish Space Laser. You fools would be vapourised in milliseconds just as soon as George Soros gave us the order.
看来你忘了我们自由党控制着犹太太空激光。乔治·索罗斯一下达命令，你们这些傻瓜就会在几毫秒内被蒸发掉。