网友讨论:东盟应该建立统一货币体系吗?
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网友讨论:东盟应该建立统一货币体系吗?
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网友讨论:东盟应该建立统一货币体系吗?
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I think Singapore PM Lee Kuan Yew said it is not likely to happen, the economy progress of the different nations is too far apart unlike Europe.
我想新加坡总理李光耀曾经说过这不太可能发生,因为和欧洲不同的是,东盟不同国家之间经济发展差距实在是太大了
That's because it's disadvantageous to Singapore as they will lose foreign investments.
这是因为这会对新加坡不利,如果采取统一的货币体系,新加坡就会失去外国投资。
ASEAN has thought about having a common currency like EU, but decided against it.
They also decided not to have open borders, (this may be later).
They also are specific about not being a military alliance.
They are not going to make the mistakes the Europeans made.
东盟曾经考虑像欧盟那样建立统一的货币,但是最后还是放弃了。
他们还决定不开放边境(或许后期会开放)
他们还明确表示不会成为一个军事联盟
他们不会犯欧洲人曾经犯下的那些错误。
A direct copy-paste of the EU is less likely to succeed.
直接复制黏贴欧盟的模式是不太可能获得成功的
@sirmarisa Agreed. ASEAN doesn't have to be like the EU. They are two different alliances with different goals, history and contexts.
同意你的看法,东盟不需要变得像欧盟一样。它们是两个不同的联盟,有着不同的目标和历史背景。
The economic disparities between euro countries are very small. Yes Germany is richer than Slovakia, but its not fundamentally a different economy. In ASEAN, you literally have economies at different historic stages of development. You have advanced countries like Singapore, and then you have rapidly developing countries like Thailand and Vietnam, and then you have literal preindustrial 3rd world countries like Myanmar and Laos, one of which is in the middle of a civil war.
欧元区国家之间的经济差距非常小。是的,德国要比斯洛伐克更加富裕,但是它们的经济并没有什么根本性的不同。而在东盟内部,不同经济体处于不同的发展阶段。东盟里面有像新加坡这样的先进国家,还有像泰国越南这样快速发展的发展中国家,还有像缅甸老挝这样没有进入工业化的第三世界国家,而且其中之一还正处于内战之中。
I think they should do what many South American countries do and allow for the usage of many currencies as legal tender.
我认为它们应该像很多南美国家那样,允许使用多种货币作为法定货币
@donaldlyons17 many places already do
许多地方已经这样做了
True. And it has the poorest country in the world-- the Philippines.
说的没错,东盟还有世界上最贫穷的国家——菲律宾。
@PapaOsmubal.OscarBalajadia the Phillippines, poorest country in the world? Are you kidding me?
菲律宾是世界上最贫穷的国家?你在开什么玩笑?
@PapaOsmubal.OscarBalajadia You sure the Philippines are that poor? According to an online source: The 10 poorest countries in the world are Burundi, Somalia, Mozambique, Madagascar, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan, Central African Republic, Eritrea, Liberia, and Niger.
你确定菲律宾真的有那么穷吗?根据网上的信息来看,世界上最穷的十个国家是:布隆迪、索马里、莫桑比克、马达加斯加、塞拉利昂、阿富汗、中非共和国、厄立特里亚、利比里亚和尼日尔。
@PapaOsmubal.OscarBalajadia even poorer than Zimbabwe?
比津巴布韦还要穷吗?
One of the conditions for joining the EU is to reach a certain economic status, precisely so that newcomers wouldn't be a financial burden on the rest of the unx.
@jilldawson89
No, it definitely can't be implemented for the following reasons:
1. Cambodia is under political and economic influence/control by China.
2. The political instability in Myanmar (Burma).
3. The region consists of too many political systems such as feudal, socialist, and capitalist, ...
4. No country in ASEAN has the same level of development.
5. No country in ASEAN has the same economic structure.
6. The region has high levels of differences in culture, language, and religion.
7. Countries in the ASEAN are dependent on opposing superpower countries.
不,东盟绝对不能采用单一的货币体系,原因如下:
1柬埔寨在政治和经济上受到中国的影响/控制
2缅甸政治不稳定
3该地区有很多不同的政治制度,比如有的采用封建制度,有的采用社会主义制度,而有的采用资本主义制度。
4东盟各国发展水平不一
5东盟各国经济结构不同
6该地区在文化,语言,和宗教方面存在巨大差异。
7东盟国家依赖相互对立的超级大国
@Western_Decline As a Viet, I don’t want a ASEAN currency myself..
作为一个越南人,我不想要统一的东盟货币
How can you say the economy of Cambodia depends on China while the amount of Chinese investment in Cambodia is too small compared to Chinese investment in Vietnam or Thailand?
你怎么能说柬埔寨在经济上依赖中国,要知道中国对柬埔寨的投资规模远远小于对越南和泰国的投资规模?
I don't think it will happen.
Singapore as the most prosperous one will disagree the idea, similar how UK kept its Poundsterling.
The original member of ASEAN (Indonesia, Thailand, Philiphines, Malaysia, and Singapore) will hold a lot of power and I don't think rest of the members will take it easily.
我认为这不可能发生
就像英国要保留自己的货币英镑一样,新加坡作为东盟最繁荣的经济体同样也不会放弃自己的货币,因此新加坡不会同意这样的想法。
东盟的初始成员国(印尼,泰国,菲律宾,马来西亚和新加坡)将拥有巨大的权力,我认为东盟其他成员国不会轻易接受这一点。
As someone who lives in Singapore i think this’d be a terrible idea
作为一个生活在新加坡的人,我认为这是一个非常糟糕的主意
As a Vietnamese, I don't think there will be a common currency. ASEAN countries have too many differences for us to unite as a single political body.
European people consist of the same race and the same religion but that's not the case in South East Asia.
作为一个越南人,我认为东盟不会诞生统一的货币。对于我们来说,东盟国家有着太多的分歧,难以统一成为一个单一的政治实体。
而欧洲人民族相同,宗教相同,但是东南亚却不是这样
I dont think its good idea atleast for now. Say if the currency is strong then it will make it difficult for smaller countries like Laos, Myanmar, and Cambodia to develop their economy but if the currency is too weak it will hurt singapore.
我认为这不是一个好主意,至少现在不是。如果货币走强,那么像老挝缅甸和柬埔寨这样的小国的经济发展将会面临困难,但是如果货币走弱,又会对新加坡的经济造成伤害。
singapore & brunei have a currency interchangeability agreement since 1967… i’m surprised you didnt even mention that in the video.
新加坡和文莱自1967年以来就有了货币互换协议
让我惊讶的是,你在视频中竟然没有提到这一点。
ASEAN should adapt one currency to strengthen the economy of ASEAN countries.
为了加强东盟各国的经济发展,东盟应该采用单一货币体系。
ASEAN currencies as of July 31, 2023:
1. Brunei - $1 : 1.33 Brunei dollar
2. Singapore - $1 : 1.33 Singapore dollar
3. Malaysia - $1 : 4.51 Malaysian ringgit
4. Thailand - $1 : 34.24 Thai baht
5. Philippines - $1 : 54.89 Philippine peso
6. Myanmar - $1 : 2,101.26 Myanmar kyat
7. Cambodia - $1 : 4,126.00 Cambodian riel
8. Indonesia - $1 : 15,087.90 Indonesian rupiah
9. Laos - $1 : 19,103.27 Laotian kip
10. Vietnam - $1 : 23,687.50 Vietnamese dong
截至2023年7月31日,东盟各国货币和美元之间的汇率
文莱:1美元=1.33文莱元
新加坡:1美元=1.33新加坡元
马来西亚:1美元=4.51令吉
泰国:1美元=34.24泰铢
菲律宾:1美元=54.89菲律宾比索
缅甸:1美元=2101.26缅甸元
柬埔寨:1美元=4126里尔
印尼:1美元=15087.9印尼卢比
老挝:1美元=19103.27基普
越南:1美元=23687.5越南盾
Only 3 currencies are powerful. Sgd, Brunei which peg 1 to 1 to sgd, and Malaysia.
东盟国家中只有三种强大的货币。新加坡元,以及和新加坡元挂钩的文莱元,以及马来西亚令吉。
Our Singaporean leader Mr Lee Kuan Yew thinks it’s a bad idea to have a common currency in the EU, why do you think it’s a good idea in ASEAN?
我们新加坡领导人李光耀先生认为欧盟使用统一货币是一个坏主意,为什么你会觉得东盟使用统一货币是一个好主意呢