印度尼西亚的学生迟到了，会受到怎样的惩罚？
What happens if you arrive late in high school?
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学校管理者会让你进去，但是……你会在去上课之前先受到惩罚。如果你是男学生，你可能会被要求在学校的操场上而不是在老师的办公室里做俯卧撑，让每个人都看到你的处境。
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High schools in Indonesia are surrounded by walls or fences with gates monitored by security guards around the clock. The condition was the same when I was still in high school and now to make things worst for the kids who often come late, they add CCTV cameras to monitor who goes in and out so attempting to sneak in when you come late is useless, unless you can make yourself invisible to the security guards and cameras.
印度尼西亚的高中周围都建有墙或栅栏，有门禁并由安保人员全天候监控。当我还在上高中时情况也是这样，现在为了让那些常常迟到的孩子更难以溜进来，学校加装了闭路电视摄像头以监控谁进出，所以如果你想在迟到时偷偷溜进去是没有用的，除非你能让自己对安保人员和摄像头隐形。
印度尼西亚的高中周围都建有墙或栅栏，有门禁并由安保人员全天候监控。当我还在上高中时情况也是这样，现在为了让那些常常迟到的孩子更难以溜进来，学校加装了闭路电视摄像头以监控谁进出，所以如果你想在迟到时偷偷溜进去是没有用的，除非你能让自己对安保人员和摄像头隐形。
In Indonesia, if you are a high school student and you come late one of these will happen to you. No. 3 is mostly likely happening to you.
在印度尼西亚，如果你是一名高中学生而你迟到了，以下三种情况之一会发生在你身上，而第三种情况最有可能发生：
1.School management won’t let you in. The gate is closed. Don’t be happy because now you have a day off because you are considered to cut class and your parents will be called.
1.学校管理者不让你进去，门已关闭。不要高兴因为现在你有一天休息，因为你被认为是旷课了，你的家长会被通知。
1.学校管理者不让你进去，门已关闭。不要高兴因为现在你有一天休息，因为你被认为是旷课了，你的家长会被通知。
2.School management will let you in but you will be reprimanded first then after that you can go to your class.
2.学校管理者会让你进去，但你会被训斥，然后才能去上课。
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2.学校管理者会让你进去，但你会被训斥，然后才能去上课。
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3.School management will let you in but … you will be punished first before you can go to your class. If you are a male student, you might be told to do push up not in the teacher’s room but in the school’s yard where everyone can see what happens to you. You can be punished to clean the school’s yard or clean the toilets which is really unpleasant thing to do. Another form of punishment for you if you come late is you stand before the flag post and salute the flag.
3.学校管理者会让你进去，但是……你会在去上课之前先受到惩罚。如果你是男学生，你可能会被要求在学校的操场上而不是在老师的办公室里做俯卧撑，让每个人都看到你的处境。你可能会被罚清理学校的操场或厕所，这是一件非常不愉快的事情。如果你迟到了，另一种惩罚方式是站在国旗杆前向国旗敬礼。
3.学校管理者会让你进去，但是……你会在去上课之前先受到惩罚。如果你是男学生，你可能会被要求在学校的操场上而不是在老师的办公室里做俯卧撑，让每个人都看到你的处境。你可能会被罚清理学校的操场或厕所，这是一件非常不愉快的事情。如果你迟到了，另一种惩罚方式是站在国旗杆前向国旗敬礼。
I graduated high school about twenty years ago and let me tell you that that arriving late in high school was unpleasant thing and something that I tried to avoid because coming late was punishable and it is now still punishable.
我大约二十年前从高中毕业，让我告诉你，迟到上学是一件不愉快的事情，是我尽力避免的事情，因为迟到是会受到惩罚的，而现在仍然会受到惩罚。
我大约二十年前从高中毕业，让我告诉你，迟到上学是一件不愉快的事情，是我尽力避免的事情，因为迟到是会受到惩罚的，而现在仍然会受到惩罚。
Don’t come late
不要迟到。
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不要迟到。
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I am German so I was never late to class but what happens when it is not your fault like the Bus was stuck in traffic? Will they get informed if like a group of students took the same Bus and the Bus is late or do all the students get punished? I get why they are doing it if the door keeps open every few minutes all the students get destructed but sometimes things happen life is not always linear
我是德国人，所以我从来没有迟到过，但是如果不是你的错，比如公交车堵车了怎么办？如果一群学生一起乘坐同一辆公交车而公交车迟到了，他们会被通知家长吗？还是所有的学生都会受到惩罚？我知道他们这样做的原因，因为如果门每隔几分钟就打开一次，所有的学生都会分心，但有时候情况会发生，生活并不总是线性的。
When I was in high school, many kids used public transportation like bus and when the bus broke down and and you were the only one who took the bus and you got late, teacher won’t tolerate. Bam ! Punishment was given no matter how good you tried to explain what really happened. However, different story when many students took same bus and they were late because something happened to the bus. Teachers might tolerate them. But if it happened again, same students with same bus again, bam ! Punishment was given.
In Indonesia, school hours start very early in the morning at around 07.00 and 07.30 am.This applies to all schools in the country. This policy is intended to avoid students getting trapped in rush hours starting at 07.45 am until 09.30 am.
当我在高中时，许多孩子都乘坐公共交通工具如公共汽车，如果公共汽车坏了，你是唯一一个乘坐公共汽车的人而迟到了，老师是不会容忍的。砰！不管你怎么解释发生了什么，都会被处罚。然而，如果很多学生一起乘坐同一辆公交车，因为公交车出了问题而迟到了，老师们可能会容忍他们。但如果同样的学生再次乘坐同一辆公交车迟到，砰！他们将会被惩罚。
在印度尼西亚，学校的上课时间非常早，大约在早上7点到7点30分。这适用于该国所有的学校。这个政策旨在避免学生在上午7点45分至9点30分的高峰期被困。
Any chance to camp on the school property, avoiding being late EVER ? Maybe boarding schools are the solution, giving the Education Department a chance for "brainwashing” 24/7, cutting out parents and other distractions.
有没有可能在学校的校园里露营，永远不会迟到？也许寄宿学校是解决办法，让教育部门有机会进行全天候“洗脑”，消除家长和其他的干扰。
Almost all public schools in Indonesia don’t have dorms facilities only expensive private schools and faith based schools. The only public schools with dorms are military schools and some state high schools with military management. Brainwashing program at schools had been abolished since President Soeharto was deposed. I myself experienced it because when I was in middle school, it was Soeharto’s regime. Trust me, you don’t want to go to school with brainwashing program. I remembered, the teachers used to say “ don’t trust foreigners ! , don’t trust western countries, “ now you will not find such material in any school in Indonesia. However, the Ministry of Education still controls the education strictly, one of the policy that does not change since 70 years ago is the standard uniforms for elementary school, middle school and high school.
几乎所有印度尼西亚的公立学校都没有宿舍设施，只有昂贵的私立学校和信仰学校有。只有军校和一些由军方管理的国立高中才有宿舍。自苏哈托总统被罢免以来，学校的洗脑计划已经被废止。我自己也经历过这个阶段，因为当我在中学时，是苏哈托政权时期。相信我，你不想去一个有洗脑计划的学校。我记得老师们曾经说过“不要相信外国人！不要相信西方国家！”但现在你在印尼的任何学校都找不到这样的材料了。但是，教育部仍然严格控制着教育，其中一个政策自70年前以来没有改变，那就是小学，初中和高中的标准制服。
Interesting information.Thanks.Much appreciated.
有趣的信息。谢谢。非常感激。
You know that school is a brainwashing institution, right? They’re trying to change you to prepare for adult life. But what they do is basically the same thing.
你知道学校是一个洗脑的机构，对吧？他们试图改变你以准备成年后的生活。但他们所做的基本上是一样的。
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The rules regarding coming late to school in my school is quite lax. I study in a public school in Indonesia. Your parents will only be called when you’re late more than 3 times. And if you’re late you’ll only miss the first period and only fill a “late absent”. After that, the teachers will let you go without any punishments.
我的学校对于迟到的规定相当宽松。我就读的是印尼公立学校。当你迟到超过3次时，学校才会通知你的家长。而如果你迟到了，你只会错过第一节课，并填写一个“迟到旷课”的表格。之后，老师们会让你进入教室而不会受到任何惩罚。
Seeing those girls at the gate begging to enter, with an angry security guard staring at them, I can imagine a lot of…kinky and inappropriate ways this thing could play out.
看到那些在门口乞求进入的女孩，以及生气的保安盯着她们，我可以想象出许多...可能会发生的变态和不合适的场景。
Here I show you same real scenes that happens to students who come late in Indonesia and they are not allowed to enter school.
在这儿，我向你展示了在印尼迟到的学生不能进入学校而发生的一些真实场景。
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Manny Ng to Andrianto Hadi
I’m sorry not being familiar with Indonesian culture and education, but I wanna ask: What is the point of locking students out? It seems counterintuitive that they’re there to get education even when they’re being late, and the school tries to prevent that. Imo, there should be a different kind of punishment to prevent students from being late.
很抱歉我不熟悉印尼的文化和教育，但我想问：把学生锁在门外有什么意义?这似乎是违反直觉的，即使他们迟到了，他们也在那里接受教育，而学校试图阻止这种情况发生。在我看来，应该有一种不同的惩罚来防止学生迟到。
When students are locked out, thing does not go easy on them. They can’t simply go to malls or to parks to have free time for one day. They will be regarded to cut the class and that will influence their scores.
当学生被锁在外面时，情况对他们来说并不容易。他们不能简单地去商场或公园自由度过一天。他们会被认为是旷课，这会影响他们的成绩。
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'discipline' is what they always say but it contradict everything about being a student. I get that you have to give them a lesson but it's ridiculous.
I once got locked out in middle school for a solid thirty minutes before they gave me my punishment, which was to sweep and mop the infarmary, and when I'm done, they then made me clean the garden. I lost two HOURS of study though thankfully the teacher understands and went to talk to whoever gave me my punishment.
And then there was high school. Once you're late, you ain't going to get in. That's the policy for the first two years of being in that school before they changed it. My friends litterally had to climb tall walls aligned with those sharp wires, thankfully there are some spots that don't have those wires. A student was even confronted to leave the school for the day because they were found out they climbed their way in.
What's the point in being a student if you're not even allowed to study just because you're five minutes late? The school frickin start at 7 am for goodness sake
他们总是说“纪律”，但这与作为一名学生的一切相悖。我知道你必须给他们教训，但这太荒谬了。
我曾经在中学被关在门外整整30分钟，然后他们就给了我惩罚，让我打扫医务室，拖地，等我打扫完，他们又让我打扫花园。我损失了两个小时的学习时间，但谢天谢地，老师理解我，并去找惩罚我的人谈话。
然后是高中。一旦你迟到，你就进不去了。这是那所学校前两年的规定后来他们改变了。我的朋友们不得不爬上那些布满尖锐电线的高墙，谢天谢地，有些地方没有这些电线。一名学生甚至被勒令离开学校一天，因为他们被发现是爬进学校的。
如果你仅仅因为迟到了五分钟就被禁止学习，那当学生还有什么意义呢?天哪，学校早上7点就开始上课了
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The student didnt get locked all day, they usually missed “upacara” monday ceremony before school start, after upacara ended usually we have 10–15 minutes before the next subject start, in those minutes the lates will get punishment and disciplines, if it's not monday they usually requires to miss the first subject and get punishment instead, but can get in class in the second subject
But if they late like an hour or more... Well the student has no shame
学生并没有整天被锁在外面，他们通常会错过星期一的“升旗仪式”（升国旗），然后在仪式结束后到下一堂课开始之前通常会有10-15分钟的时间，这段时间会惩罚迟到的学生，如果不是星期一，他们通常需要错过第一节课并接受惩罚，但可以在第二节课时进入教室。但如果他们迟到了一个小时或更久…… 那么这个学生就没有羞耻心。
It varies how school deals with this. My middle school does this every schoolday, whether it is Monday or not. I'm Indonesian too if you are mistaken, I live in a remotely small island named Batam. The rules are, we have time before the first subject starts which was an hour after the gate closes to punish those who are late. The particular teacher who is assigned for today to punish them took it to absurdity, as I stated, I miss two hours of the first subject which leaves one more before we move on to the next subject. Usually the punishment ended at the very least half a hour, thirty minutes. Then they are dismissed and still probably has a few minutes left to get to class before the fist subject starts. I.. I know I'm late for class for two hours but was it really my fault?? I was late to the gate for just ten minutes, my punishment takes more time. It's too farfetched to call a person shameful, some of them has reasons
不同学校处理迟到问题的方式有所不同。我所在的初中每天都会这样做，无论是星期一还是其他日子。我也是印尼人，我住在一个叫巴淡岛的偏远小岛上。规定是，我们在第一节课开始前有时间进行惩罚，而第一节课是在校门关闭后一个小时开始的。今天负责惩罚他们的那位老师却把事情搞得离谱。正如我所说的，我错过了前两个小时的第一节课，只来得及上最后一节课。通常惩罚时间至少要半个小时或30分钟。然后他们就被解散了，还有几分钟的时间可以到教室上课。我...我知道我上课迟到了两个小时，但这真的是我的错吗？我只是晚了十分钟到达校门口，但我的惩罚时间却更长。把一个人称之为无耻太牵强了，有些人确实有原因。
The reason is because if the were no consequence, people like me will eventually be 2 hour late. Regularly.
You have to draw the line somewhere.
If you allow a 15 minutes grace period, we will be 20 minutes late. Then, people like you would ask for an additional 15 minutes. With a 30 minutes grace period, me and my friends would be 40 minutes late.
Rinse, repeat.
这样规定的原因是因为如果没有惩罚措施，像我这样的人最终会常常迟到两个小时。
你必须在某个地方划定红线。
如果你给予15分钟的宽限期，我们会迟到20分钟。然后，像你这样的人会要求再额外给15分钟。如果给予30分钟宽限期，我和我的朋友们会迟到40分钟。
周而复始。
I believe it to be some kind of a punishment orientation that will eventually discipline the students to be punctual and respectful of other people’s time. If you were ever in that position, you will understand how this works and will really say that this system of punishment really works.
我相信这是某种惩罚导向的方式，最终会训练学生守时、尊重他人时间。如果你曾经身处这种情况，你就会理解这种方式的作用，并且会真正认为这种惩罚系统确实有效。
This punishment doesn’t apply to private schools, they can choose what they want.
This is me who graduated from all three-stages of private school.
But my brother and sister are at state-school, so they do get locked off like in the image…
这个惩罚不适用于私立学校，他们可以选择自己的规定。
我毕业于私立学校的三个阶段。
但是我的兄弟姐妹在公立学校，所以他们像照片中那样被锁在外面。
I went to public high school and personally I witnessed the punishment happened to my friend. Well I can’t speak for private high school, since I never went there. I don’t know, I just take random pics.
我去的是公立高中，亲眼见证了这种惩罚发生在我朋友身上。嗯，我不能说私立高中怎么样，因为我从没去过那里。我不知道，我随便拍了几张照片。
I know some might think this is stupid, rude, or even primitive. But in my personal opinion, this is great. Students especially High-School students are bunch of teenagers, and like any teens they could be annoying, rude, disrespectful, horny, sassy, obnoxious, etc.
This is great, because it teaches them how to behave, act, be respectful, well mannered, obey the rules, etc. but most importantly discipline, and comradery.
Yes, when i was a student it is annoying you have to wake up early, and all. But looking back at it again, it was a lot of fun. I actually missed the old times again now. Thanks for the nostalgia.
Some of the best high-schools in Indonesia are strict, both state-owned, and private-owned. Schools like SMAN are favourite as well as military/ministry of defence schools like Taruna Nusantara.
我知道有些人可能认为这很愚蠢、粗鲁，甚至是原始的。但在我个人看来，这是很好的。学生尤其是高中生，都是一群十几岁的孩子，像其他任何青少年一样，他们可能很烦人、粗鲁、不尊重、有欲望、无理取闹等等。
这很好，因为它教给他们如何表现、如何行动、尊重他人、有礼貌、遵守规则等等，但最重要的是纪律和团结。
是的，当我还是学生的时候，早上起床很烦人。但现在回想起来，那是非常有趣的。我现在又开始怀念过去了。感谢这种怀旧。
印度尼西亚最好的一些高中都很严格，无论是公立的还是私立的。像SMAN这样的学校很受欢迎，还有像Taruna Nusantara这样的军事/国防学校也很受欢迎。
I could assure you that back in my high school time years ago, the discipline level was 150 %. The teachers could freeze us just by staring at us and we didn’t dare to talk back at them.
我可以向你保证，在我多年前的高中时代，纪律水平是现在的150％。老师只用盯着我们看就能冻结我们，我们不敢反驳他们。
Today, teachers are afraid to say “boo” in the classroom. Students have so many “rights” it’s almost like a teacher has to ask permission to speak. And everything a teacher says can be misconstrued to be interpreted as being “offensive” to somebody!
I miss teaching, but I wouldn’t want to go back to it now.
今天，教师们害怕在课堂上说“批评”。学生有太多的“权利”，几乎像是教师必须请求许可才能发言。而且，教师说的一切都可以被误解为对某人“冒犯”！
我很怀念教书，但现在我不想回去了。
It really depends on the school though, the consequences described above usually only happen in local schools, meanwhile in Indonesia we also have a lot of private international schools (like mine). In here the school would only write down our names and it will go into our report in the "lateness" section.
其实这取决于学校，上面描述的惩罚通常只会在本地学校发生，与此同时，在印度尼西亚我们也有很多私立国际学校（像我就是在这样的学校）。在这里，学校只会记录我们的名字，然后会在“迟到”栏目中记录下来。
I went to public school and the school did the same thing as yours.
我去的是公立学校，学校也会做和你们那里一样的事情。
I thought at first, wow, this is in the Philippines!, but reading through it it was Indonesia. I am kinda happy to see that there is another thing added on my list about what makes the Philippines and Indonesia similar. we really can be called brothers/sisters. Same face, same building structure, just a different home country.
一开始我还以为这在菲律宾呢，但看完之后才知道是印度尼西亚。我很高兴能够看到我对于菲律宾和印度尼西亚相似之处又增加了一点认识。我们真的可以互称兄弟姐妹。相同的面孔，相同的建筑结构，只是不同的祖国。
What do you think of this?
你对此是怎么想的？
Fun actually, looking back at it now its a lot of fun. Not so much back then when i was a student lmao.
实际上很有趣，现在回头看，很有趣。但当我还是学生的时候，并不是那么有趣，哈哈。
I’m from Malaysia but had similar experience… for my whole school years.
I don’t why but there was like a curse, a curse that forbade me from coming to school early, despite my house being quite close to the school. I did sometime arrived in time or even earlier, but coming late was so normal my parents even considered not driving me to school. Like any other kids, of course I took up on that offer :p
Anyhow, about the last two years of my schooling, I decided being late wasn’t an excuse to skip school. So I went to school, late or not. I think I kinda made a name for myself among the teachers. It was to the point I was brought to the counsellor!
My only saving grace was, I believe, my good grades. I was the “bad boy” that outperformed most of my peers. I wonder if the school would’ve kicked me out if not for that. I mean, they did threaten me, telling me it would show on my results like a note saying “this student was a delinquent” or something to that effect(but they never delivered on that, thankfully).
我来自马来西亚，但我有类似的经历...在整个学生时代
我不知道为什么，但就像一个诅咒，一个诅咒，禁止我早点儿上学，尽管我的家离学校很近。有时候我确实按时或更早到达，但迟到是很正常的，我的父母甚至考虑不送我去学校。和其他孩子一样，我当然接受了这个提议
无论如何，在我上学的最后两年，我决定迟到不是逃学的借口。所以我去上学，不管迟到与否。我想我在老师中已经出了名。以至于我被带到辅导员那里!
我唯一的可取之处，我相信，是我的好成绩。我是一个比同龄人表现更好的“坏男孩”。我在想如果不是因为这个，学校会不会把我开除。我的意思是，他们确实威胁过我，告诉我这将在我的成绩上显示出来，就像一张纸条上写着“这个学生是一个少年犯”或类似的东西(但他们从来没有兑现过，谢天谢地)。