高中成绩对四年制大学有多大影响?
How much do high school grades matter to a 4 year college? (Please read details)
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网友：Q、 高中成绩对一所四年制大学有多重要？我目前在一所社区大学，成绩很好。问题是当我在高中的时候，我的平均成绩点数是1.9，现在大学一年后是3.3。我希望转到詹姆斯·麦迪逊。我希望转到詹姆斯·麦迪逊大学。我想知道我在高中的成绩和我在大学的成绩相比对入学有多大影响.......
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How much do high school grades matter to a 4 year college? (Please read details)
高中成绩对四年制大学有多大影响?
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Q. How much do high school grades matter to a 4 year college? (Please read details) I'm currently at a community college and getting good grades. problem is when I was in high school my gpa was 1.9. Now it's 3.3 after 1 year of college. I’m hoping to transfer to James Madison. I want to know how much my grades in high school will impact getting in versus my grades in college.
A. JMU has guaranteed admissions agreements with all Virginia community colleges and Richard Bland College. Under the GAA, admission to JMU is guaranteed to a student who completes an appropriate associate degree, has a cumulative GPA of 3.0 or higher, and meets additional requirements as outlined in the individual agreements.
Q、 高中成绩对一所四年制大学有多重要？我目前在一所社区大学，成绩很好。问题是当我在高中的时候，我的平均成绩点数是1.9，现在大学一年后是3.3。我希望转到詹姆斯·麦迪逊大学。我想知道我在高中的成绩和我在大学的成绩相比对入学有多大影响。
A、 詹姆斯麦迪逊大学保证与所有弗吉尼亚社区学院和理查德·布兰德学院签订入学协议。根据GAA，詹姆斯麦迪逊大学的录取保证为完成相应的准学士学位、累计平均成绩点数达到3.0或更高，并满足个人协议中规定的其他要求的学生。
You have a good chance if you are attending a Virginia Community College and maintain your current GPA. Listed are the scores of high school seniors who applied to JMU and admission decisions for 2021. You will have to rely on your Community College record. The applicants denied admissions had unweighted GPA of 2.94 and 3.02. Deferred had 2.50 and 3.43. You did not list your SAT/ACT scores.
All the best!
更广泛地说，詹姆斯麦迪逊大学考虑转学申请者的大学课程、大学平均成绩点数、高中课程和高中成绩。你在大学里挣的学分越多，就越不重视你的高中成绩。
如果你正在弗吉尼亚社区学院就读，并保持目前的平均成绩点数，那么你有很大的机会。下面列出了申请詹姆斯麦迪逊大学的高中生的分数和2021的入学决定。你必须依靠你的社区大学记录。被拒绝录取的申请者的未加权平均绩点分别为2.94和3.02。递延成绩分别为2.50和3.43。你没有列出学业能力倾向测验/ 美国大学入学考试的成绩。
祝愿一切都好！
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It depends on your coursework, how long you’ve been in community college (CC) and the destination 4-year-college.
In general, your CC grades will count more than your HS grades, especially after two years in CC.
Transferring credits can sometimes be an issue.
Be sure to consult the college to which you are applying for their requirements.
The longer you are in CC, the more the CC grades will count relative to HS grades.
这取决于你的功课、你在社区大学（CC）的时间以及你的目标（4年制大学）。
一般来说，你的CC成绩会比你的高中成绩更重要，尤其是在读社区大学两年后。
转移学分有时可能是一个问题。
一定要咨询你申请的大学。
您在社区大学中的时间越长，相对于高中成绩等级，社区大学成绩等级越重要。
A student wants me to change her grade because her college admission will be revoked if I post the "D" she's earned. What should I consider?
This has actually happened to me twice in the last 3 years. One girl came to me, and asked me to change her grade from 2 years before because she would lose a full ride at UCLA if the D remained on her report card… Another student said he couldn’t fail my class because they would revoke his admission to SDSU. I gave both of them the same answer, and got the same result.
I said, “Great, bring me a letter from the university explaining your situation. Then we can discuss it.” The one with the full ride for UCLA told me she would be back the next day, I am still waiting, that was the year before last. The other student, from last year, brought in a letter apologizing for lying to me. I accepted his apology, and gave him the grade he earned.
This is a hard one. I’d hate to be the one to break a kid’s life, but I would certainly make them PROVE what they were telling me. I would certainly make them do WORK to make up for their missing work.
有个学生想让我给她改成绩，因为如果我给她的成绩是D，她的大学录取资格就会被取消。我应该如何衡量呢?
在过去的三年里，这件事在我身上发生过两次。一个女孩来找我，要求我把她2年前的成绩改过来，因为如果她的成绩单上还留着D，她将失去在加州大学洛杉矶分校的全额奖学金，另一个学生说，他不能让我的课不及格，因为他们会撤销他在加州大学圣保罗分校的入学资格。我给了他们两个相同的答案，得到了相同的结果。
我说：“太好了，给我看看大学的信并解释一下你的情况。然后我们可以讨论一下这个问题。”拿到加州大学洛杉矶分校全额奖学金的那个女孩告诉我她第二天就会回来，我还在等她，那是前年的事了。去年的另一个学生给我写了一封信，为撒谎而道歉，我接受了他的道歉，并给他打了分数。
这是一个很难的问题，我不想成为一个毁掉孩子生活的人，但我一定会让他们证明他们告诉我的内容的真实性。
YES, THEY ABSOLUTELY DO!
Don’t believe anyone who says it doesn’t, because they sure as fuck do.
Here’s why.
I scored 94% odd in my 10th board exams and I barely scraped through the cut off list in Army Public School, Guwahati after someone in the third waiting list dropped out.
I scored 85% in my +2 boards and didn’t make it through the college I badly wanted in Delhi. In fact, my grades were the reason I had to leave Delhi and move to Calcutta.
I scored barely 52% odd in my BSc. I have an honors in Physics and for those who know Calcutta University, well, I’m a survivor. And this was way back in 2007–08.
Later, I interviewed for MSc positions in many colleges and universities that I badly wanted to go to.
I was laughed at and ridiculed by some of the country’s best colleges for my “poor” scores and was told by many other top institutes that “people who apply here usually score 80% and above!”
I answered every question thrown at me, I solved every problem asked of me, and I even threw light on a few alternate approaches to basic physics problems in kinematics, thermodynamics, and electromagnetism at a few places. Yet, my scores, or the lack of it, were questioned.
是的，它们绝对是有影响的！
不要相信那些说没有影响的人，因为他们肯定是有影响的。
这就是为什么：
我在第十年级入学考试中的得分为94分，在第三名候补名单中有人退出后，我勉强通过了古瓦哈蒂陆军公立学校的截止录取线。
我的第二次考试中得分为85分，没有通过我在德里渴望的大学。事实上，我的成绩是我不得不离开德里搬到加尔各答的原因。
我的理科成绩只有52分。我在物理学学科成绩优异，对于那些了解加尔各答大学的人来说，我是幸存者。这要追溯到2007-08年。
后来，我面试了许多我非常想去的学院和大学的理学硕士职位。
我被一些全国最好的大学嘲笑和奚落—因为我“糟糕”的成绩，还有许多其他顶尖大学告诉我，“在这里申请的人通常得分都在80分以上！”
我回答了向我提出的每一个问题，我解决了向我提出的所有问题，我甚至在一些地方介绍了运动学、热力学和电磁学等基本物理问题的几种替代方法。然而由于我的分数，或分数不够，都受到了质疑。
Later, I scored 80% in my masters and I barely broke a sweat (thanks to a rigorous undergraduate curriculum).
When I applied for research positions to professors across the country and abroad, I was always asked ONE thing:
What happened during your Bachelor’s? Did someone die? Were you on drugs? Girlfriend(s)?
Every…fucking…time.
2 years after I finished my master’s, I cracked a national level exam, got through a decent institute in a project I truly loved and started working on my PhD.
But not before I was asked, What happened during your Bachelor’s?
我最终不得不选择一所狗屁大学，那里的课程内容堪称笑话。
后来，我的硕士课程取得了80分的成绩，我几乎没费什么力气（多亏了严格的本科课程）。
当我向全国各地和国外的教授申请研究职位时，我总是被问到一件事：
你学士期间发生了什么？有人死了吗？你吸毒了吗？谈女朋友？
每次如此，真是他妈的。
在我读完硕士学位两年后，我通过了国家级考试，在一个我真正热爱的项目中通过了一所像样的学院，并开始攻读博士学位。
但在我被问到“你的学士学位期间发生了什么？”？
Ask that kid who’s IIT dreams got squashed because he didn’t score 60% in his +2.
Ask that friend of yours who missed cracking the IIT-JEE by 1 mark.
Ask that super smart, highly intelligent inventor friend of yours why he failed his board exams or university exams because he felt learning from text books was obsolete and redundant.
Ask the son of a poor farmer who scored 75% in his 12th grade exams, studying under a streetlamp, only to realise that he was 5% short of getting a scholarship to go for his higher studies.
Again, like it or not, grades DO matter.
At least in India, they do.
所以，成绩很重要。
去问那个印度理工学院的梦想被粉碎的孩子，因为他的第二次成绩没有得到60分。
问问你那位差1分没通过印度理工学院印度理工学院考试的朋友吧。
问问你那位超级聪明、高度聪明的发明家朋友，为什么他没有通过入学考试或大学考试，因为他觉得从课本上学习既过时又多余。
问一个贫穷农民的儿子吧：他在12年级考试中获得75分的分数，在路灯下学习，结果发现还差5分才能拿到去读大学的奖学金。
不管你喜不喜欢，成绩确实很重要。
至少在印度是这样的。
How do I get over the fact that I'm not going to get in to the college that I want to go to because as a junior in high school, my grades aren't good?
You just do.
You decide that going to college is more important than not going to college because you didn’t get into the one you wanted.
And you find out that college is worth going to, even if it isn’t your first choice.
Meanwhile, between now and when you apply, do your absolute best, because it will still give you the most options.
Me, I graduated from high school with a 1.8 GPA, and never even thought I’d go to college. But I found one that was new, that saw my potential, and we were a good match for each other.
Few kids actually go to famous colleges. It just happens those are the ones we hear about. There are many excellent colleges that are rated “above average” yet way below the top tier.
If you really want to go to a top tier university, make sure to get the highest grades you can at college, and prove that you are worthy, and apply as a transfer student.
The biggest reason most kids don’t do that, is because once they get to their colleges, they realize they’re OK.
And if you still want to go to a big name school, do really great in college, and go to the big name school for your graduate degree.
It is frustrating to not get what you want, and sad when you know it is your own fault for not getting great grades. From here—look forward!
我怎么才能克服这样一个事实：因为我作为一名成绩不好高中三年级学生而无法进入我想去的大学？
你就是这样。
你认为上大学比不上大学更重要，因为你没有考上你想要读的大学。
你会发现上大学是值得的，即使这不是你的第一选择。
同时，从现在到你申请的时候，尽你最大的努力，因为它仍然会给你最多的选择。
我，我高中毕业，平均绩点1.8，甚至从未想过我会上大学。但我找到了一个新人，他看到了我的潜力，我们很般配。
很少有孩子真正上名牌大学。碰巧我们听说的就是这些，有许多优秀的大学被评为“高于平均水平”，但远低于顶级水平。
如果你真的想上一流大学，一定要在大学里取得最好的成绩，证明自己是值得的，并申请转校。
大多数孩子不这么做的最大原因是，一旦他们到了大学，他们就意识到自己万事大吉了。
如果你还想去一所名牌学校，在大学里努力学，去名牌学校攻读研究生学位。
得不到你想要的东西是令人沮丧的，当你知道自己没有取得好成绩是自己的错时，你会感到难过。从当下开始向前看！
Do good grades matter in life?
Usually yes, sometimes no.
In the job world, they matter immensely. And when I say grades, I’m including the university you studied at as part of that. Great grades help at every stage. From getting that job in the first place, to your colleagues first impression at your job, to helping you get that next job, etc…
I know friends that have literally coasted through careers, paid US$500k+ by the time they’re 40, because their academic achievements were amazing.
A lot of people assume that ultimately hard work and intelligence will show through. The problem is that humans are generally pretty superficial. They’ll just assume that guy with a 1st class degree from Cambridge is super-smart and it takes a lot of repeated evidence for them to finally realise that the lady with an upper second-class degree from Southampton is actually smarter. Perhaps she wasn’t as motivated in those studying years, or had to pay for her studies by working evenings and weekends.
And she might get more done, and work harder, but it looks better on the company profile that the company has a first-class Cambridge grad heading the team.
I guess grades matter even more in the academic world.
But in other areas of life, such as business, sports, entertainment they have very little value.
But the vast majority of people end up in the job world. And that probably includes you…
好成绩对你一生而言重要吗?
通常是，有时不是。
在职场上，这是非常重要的。当我说成绩的时候，我把你就读的大学也包括在内。好成绩在每个阶段都有帮助。从最初得到那份工作，到同事对你工作的第一印象，再到帮助你得到下一份工作等等。
我认识一些朋友，他们的职业生涯一帆风顺，到40岁时工资就有50万美元以上，因为他们的学术成就非常惊人。
很多人认为努力和智慧最终会显现出来。问题是人类通常都很肤浅的。他们只会认为剑桥一等学历的男生超级聪明，其次需要大量反复的证据，才能最终意识到南安普顿二等学历的女士实际上更聪明。也许她在那些该学习的年份学习不够积极，或者不得不在晚上和周末工作来支付学习费用。
她可能会做得更多，工作更努力，但从公司概况来看，公司有一名一流的剑桥毕业生来领导团队，这看起来更好。
我想成绩在学术界更重要。
但在生活的其他领域，如商业、体育、娱乐，它们几乎没有什么价值。
但绝大多数人最终都会进入职场。这可能包括你。
Do grades matter in middle school?
No.
I was (and still am) a straight-A student. I don’t try for these grades - they just happen.
When I was in seventh grade, I was extremely depressed and suicidal. My friends didn’t know how to handle it and reported me to the office so I could get help. The school counselor and principal wanted to send me to a psychiatric hospital for uation. My mother was greatly opposed to this.
“What about her grades? She’s a straight-A student. They’ll drop if she’s gone for a week.”
The principal, a long time friend of my mother’s, said, and I quote:
“Sarah, you know as well as I do that grades mean nothing until high school.”
So there’s that. And I wholeheartedly agree. The only way middle school grades matter for is determining which classes you’ll take in high school.
To be honest, unless you’re trying for an Ivy league or something, high school grades don’t particularly matter either. I don’t plan on going to college - hence, my grades mean nothing.
There is so much more to you than some silly letters, and I wish more people understood that.
中学成绩重要吗？
不重要；
我曾经是（现在仍然是）一名优等生。我并没有刻意去争取这些分数——它们就这么发生了。
当我七年级的时候，我非常沮丧，有自杀倾向。我的朋友不知道该怎么处理，于是向办公室举报了我，让我去寻求帮助。学校辅导员和校长想把我送到精神病院接受评估，我母亲对此极为反对。
“她的成绩怎么样？她是一名优等生啊。如果她离开一周，成绩就会下降。”
校长是我母亲的老朋友，他说：
“莎拉，你和我一样知道，高中之前，成绩算什么。”
所以就是这样。我完全同意。中学成绩重要的唯一方式是决定你在高中上什么班级。
老实说，除非你想考长春藤名牌大学或其他什么，否则高中成绩不重要。我不打算上大学——因此，我的成绩毫无意义。
我希望更多的人能理解这一点。
Will I have a bad future if I get bad grades in high school?
I'm going anonymous because I think this is a little controversial, but my view is that while success in high school can give you an initial advantage, in the long run, high school, and often college, are merely rights of passage and minor credentials that really make a difference only rarely, and grades are mostly irrelevant, so long as you pass and can demonstrate that you have the skills needed for a job.
When you get out of high school, some employers will not hire people who did not graduate or get a GED. (Actually, this is a short-sighted position that usually comes from a rigid corporate structure. It is mostly held by larger employers.) The only people who actually care about your high school GPA are college admissions people. And even then, as long as you graduated high school, you will be able to find some college who will let you in. Most community colleges will take you, and many 4-year ones as well. You won't get a full ride scholarship or get into an Ivy League school on your 1.0 high school GPA, but that's true of plenty of people with much higher scores as well.
如果我高中成绩不好，我的未来会不会很糟糕？
我不愿意透露姓名，因为我认为这有点争议，但我的观点是，虽然高中的好成绩可以给你带来最初的优势，但从长远来看，高中，通常包括大学，仅仅是敲门砖和辅助凭证，实际起到的作用很小。只要你能通过考试，并能证明你具备工作所需的技能，成绩也基本上无关紧要。
当你高中毕业后，一些雇主不会雇佣那些没有毕业或没有获得GED的人。（事实上，那也是一个短视的职位，通常来自于僵化的公司结构。大多雇主年龄较大。）真正关心你高中GPA的只有大学招生人员。即便如此，只要你高中毕业，你就能找到愿意录取你的大学。大多数社区大学都会录取你，还有很多四年制大学。你不可能凭借1.0的高中平均绩点获得全额奖学金或进入常春藤盟校，但对于很多得分更高的人来说也是如此。
Mastery of skills is important, and school is a trial run for working life. You should unquestionably do your best to succeed in school, learn as much as you can, learn to jump through the hoops they set in front of you, and try to get the best grades you can. If you succeed in this, you will increase your chances for success in the future. But there are any number of reasons why you might fall short. This doesn't make you a bad person or a failure. It can be overcome.
I have hired some very skilled, very good workers who didn't graduate from high school. I have hired college graduates with 4.0 GPAs who were flaky and didn't last long. You might not always succeed, but if you do the best you can, wherever you are, and learn from your mistakes, chances are that you will be ok.
大学也是如此。许多工作对大学学位或学士学位有论文要求。很多人在获得学位时没有那么聪明，也没有学到很多有用的技能。但如果他们有学位，他们就有资格得到这份工作。大学平均绩点更重要。雇主在雇佣两名员工时可能会考虑平均绩点，如果差距很大，那么平均绩点越高就越有优势。但大多数工作并不是纸质简历和平均绩点比较的结果，它们是你认识人、拥有所需技能、拥有良好声誉的结果。你离大学或高中越远，你的成绩就越不重要。
掌握技能很重要，而学校是职业生涯的一次试行。毫无疑问，你应该尽你最大的努力在学校取得成功，尽你所能地学习，学会跳过他们在你面前设置的圈子，并努力取得最好的成绩。如果你在这方面取得成功，将增加你未来成功的机会。但你可能会失败的原因有很多，这不会让你成为坏人或失败。毕竟这是可以克服的。
我雇佣了一些技能非常熟练、非常优秀的工人，他们不是高中毕业的。我雇佣了那些平均绩点为4.0的大学毕业生，相反都很差劲，干得时间不长。你可能并不总是成功，但如果你尽你所能做到最好，无论你身在何处，并从错误中吸取教训，你很有可能会好起来。
Do school grades really matter? I have excellent grades and am trying to get into a team for International Olympiads (IOI and ICHO). I think that 6 hours in school is the worst thing I can do but my parents don't agree with me. What do you think?
Originally Answered: Do school marks really matter?
Let's say you go to a gym and work hard. At the end of workout, you would be profusely sweating and your muscles would be aching a lot. If we equate school to a gym, that sweat is the marks you scored.
What is important is not the sweat itself [which is just salt water] but what you did to get the sweating. If you are doing the right way, the sweat indicates that you might be developing endurance and strength in your body. In short, it is that endurance and strength that matters in the gym, which we cannot see and thus use sweat as a proxy.
In the same way, it is your knowledge and reasoning skills you acquire in school that is ultimately important. Unfortunately, we don't have an easy way of seeing that and thus use examinations and marks as proxies [we are slowly developing better proxies both at the gym and at schools].
学校成绩真的重要吗？我成绩优异，正努力进入国际奥林匹克运动会（国际信息学奥林匹克和国际化学奥林匹克）的参赛队伍。我认为在学校呆6个小时是我能做的最糟糕的事情，但我的父母不同意我的观点，你怎么看？
最初的答案是：分数真的重要吗？
假设你去健身房并努力锻炼。锻炼结束时，你会大汗淋漓，肌肉也会酸痛。如果我们把学校等同于健身房，那汗水就是你的分数。
重要的不是汗水本身（它只是盐水），而是你为了出汗做了什么。如果你做得对，汗水表明你可能正在锻炼身体的耐力和力量。简言之，在健身房里，耐力和力量才是最重要的，但这是我们看不到的，因此用汗水来代替。
同样，你在学校学到的知识和推理技巧才是最重要的。不幸的是，我们没有一个简单的方法来看待这一点，因此，我们使用考试和分数作为替代品[我们正在慢慢地在健身房和学校开发更好的替代品]。
See your marks just like the sweat. It is useless by itself, but if you are honest to yourself it might indicate that you are developing the knowledge and skills needed for the world. Also, marks might indicate developing only one aspect of endurance. You should also get on to Olympiad and other things that you are passionate about. The school should be the place where you explore yourself and passionately do stuff you care about and equally passionately do stuff that you don't like, but will help in the future.
就像你可以假装出汗(站在暖气旁边，往自己身上喷水，害怕什么)，你完全可以在没有增强思考能力的情况下伪造分数，而且许多人这样做。然而，他们迟早会选择自己讨厌的课程和职业。其他时候，你可能一点都不出汗（健身房本可以很酷），但可能仍在锻炼力量。
就像汗水一样看到你的分数，它本身是无用的，但如果你对自己诚实，这可能表明你正在发展世界所需的知识和技能。此外，分数可能表明只发展了耐力的一个方面。你也应该关注奥运会和其他你感兴趣的事情。学校应该是一个让你探索自我，充满激情地做你关心的事情，同样充满激情地去做你不喜欢，但将来会有所帮助的的事情的地方。
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