网友讨论：印度导弹误射巴基斯坦

Value Pilgrim
1. The Missile (no confirmation whether it was Brahmos) flew at 40,000 meters till the last moment. The HQ 9 can intercept only an altitude of 25 Kms.
2. When it goes into the terminal phase, Brahmos does something called the cobra maneuver. It does a zig-zagging S at speeds of Mach 4 (or in this case since its plunging from 40 kms probably Mach 5+). Its absolutely impossible to intercept at those speeds and with that S maneuver.

这枚导弹（不确定是不是布拉莫斯导弹）直到最后一刻都在40000米高空飞行。红旗9只能在25公里的高度上进行拦截。
当进入最终阶段时，布拉莫斯导弹会进行眼镜蛇式的机动，其速度会达到4马赫，做S线运动（或者在这种情况下，由于在40000米的高空处下落，速度或许会达到5马赫）。以这种速度和难以捉摸的S线的走位是绝对不可能被拦截的

3. The missile wasn't carrying any warhead. If it had, it would flattened a half kilometre square or more. With that kinetic energy and with shrapnel flying in all directions the devastation would have been ridiculous.

这枚导弹没有携带任何弹头，如果有携带的话，半平方公里或更大范围内的地方将会被它夷为平地。凭借这股动能和朝四面八方飞射的弹片，其造成的破坏将是极其惊人的。

4. This test/mistake also shows what China can expect at the LAC if they become too adventurous. The Chinese use mainly HQ 9s and also have a S 400 battery. But it seems India has 14000 of these Brahmos missiles which can fly at Mach 3+, they have been upgraded to a range of 500 kms (by changing their software) and if India launches 30 of these missiles at Chinese S 400 (an attack called Saturation attack)the S 400 cannot handle it and would be blown to smithereens. Rajnath Singh had apparently said that India plans to.deploy 500 of these missiles along the LAC. The Chinese started whining and complaining that doing this would up the risk and they would also be forced to deploy their Hypersonic missiles. Which tells you how scared the Chinese are of this missile.
This is a good news for India. We are becoming self-sufficiency in defence at last.

这场测试或者说是错误也证明了，如果中国过于冒险，那么他们可以预期的到自己到时会在实控线那里遭遇到什么。中国人主要使用红旗9和S400防空导弹。但印度似乎有14000枚布拉莫斯导弹，其飞行速度可以达到3马赫，可以通过改变软件将射程提高到500公里，如果印度向中国发射30枚这样的导弹（这样的攻击被称为是饱和式攻击），他们的S400将无法应付，会被炸成碎片。拉杰纳特·辛格（印度国防部长）曾公开说印度计划沿实控线部署500枚这样的导弹，中国人开始抱怨说这样做会增加风险，他们为此将被迫部署自己的高超音速导弹。这说明了中国人有多么害怕印度的布拉莫斯导弹
这对印度来说是一个好消息，我们的国防终于开始可以自给自足了

Himanshu Kumar
Firing Brahmos on China means a full blown war, which will mean not just missiles and tanks.
Most of us just think of conventional weapons, that's the problem. Countries like China don't really follow the rules. We are yet to learn cyber and electronic warfare.

向中国发射布拉莫斯导弹意味着全面战争，而全面战争不仅仅意味着坦克和导弹。我们大部分人只能想到常规武器，这就是问题所在，像中国这样的国家不会遵守这些规则，我们现在连网络战和电子战都还没有学会
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Vellanki Bharadwaj
So what are our options if China or Pakistan fires hypersonic missiles at us ?

如果中国或者巴基斯坦向我们发射高超音速导弹，我们有什么选择？

Value Pilgrim
@Vellanki Bharadwaj Pakistan doesn't have even a supersonic missile forget a hypersonic one.
China has hypersonic missiles. If China decides to go hypersonic we have some options too. They are pretty lethal.
Also, I have an idea of how a Hypersonic missile can be neutralised. But then I don't know whom to tell.

巴基斯坦甚至连超音速导弹都没有，更不用说高超音速导弹了。中国有高超音速导弹，如果中国决定使用高超音速导弹，我们也有一些选择可以使用，而且这些选择相当致命。还有我知道如何压制高超音速导弹，但我不知道和谁说。

Hon Dam
What about drones? India must develop drones.

还有无人机呢？印度必须发展无人机

QuadLogic
Although you did put in some good points, understand one thing China has an entire rocket division other than army, navy, airforce and cyber. Plus their rocket count is huge as well so saturation attack yes will happen on them but we would also bare much heavier one as our S400 batteries will also be wiped out, not a good situation. Best is the China factor be handled diplomatically.

虽然你提出了一些很好的观点，但要知道除了陆军，海军空军和网络军之外，中国还有完整的火箭军。而且他们的火箭数量也很多，所以如果我们对他们发动了饱和式攻击，我们自己也会受到更加沉重的打击，我们的S400会被彻底抹除，这不是什么好事情。和中国解决矛盾的最佳办法是通过外交途径。

Eucenor
@Value Pilgrim laser weapons systems to stop hypersonic missiles?

激光武器系统可以阻止高超音速导弹吗?
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Simriths .S
@Vellanki Bharadwaj Pakistan cannot afford hypersonic missiles.

巴基斯坦无法负担高超音速导弹

AARYAN
Can s400 sucessfully intercept nd kill down a BRAHMOS missile?

S400可以成功拦截并击落布拉莫斯导弹吗？

oppindia
what is the source that India has 14000 Brahmos, it seems too high number.

你从哪里知道印度有14000枚布拉莫斯导弹的，这个数字似乎太高了

Value Pilgrim
@Hon Dam Drones we have lagged so far. But recent advances (specially the Rustom II successful test) shows we are closing the gap. We should have some very good drones by 2024.

我们在无人机方面落后太大。但最近的进展表明（尤其是Rustom II的成功实验）我们正在缩小差距。到2024年，我们应该就能拥有非常先进的无人机了。

AARYAN
@Value Pilgrim
So 1 vs 1....s400 can't kill BRAHMOS. Right!?
Nd what if INDIA gives the BRAHMOS to other nation nd that nation fires BRAHMOS against INDIA?
Can India defend against BRAHMOS?
I think BARAK 8 can defend.

所以一对一的话，S400无法击落布拉莫斯导弹对吧？
如果印度将布拉莫斯导弹给了别的国家，而那个国家又用布拉莫斯导弹来攻击印度的话，该怎么办？印度可以防住布拉莫斯导弹吗？我认为闪电8导弹可以防御住（是以色列和印度共同开发的区域防空导弹）

yoppindia
@Value Pilgrim I checked it's from 400 to 500(200 for navy, 288 for army)

我查了一下，布拉莫斯导弹数量是在400枚到500枚之间，海军200枚，陆军288枚

Value Pilgrim
@yoppindia google 14000 Brahmos.

谷歌一下14000枚布拉莫斯导弹
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harilalt
I think it is 40000 feet not meters....

我认为是40000英尺而不是40000米的高空

Vijay Rao
Great analysis. Knew it was more than a accidental launch

不错的分析，我就知道这不是一次偶然的发射