美国比加拿大更成功吗?

Max Leggett
A laughable idea. Canada has a longer life expectancy and much lower infant mortality. As someone who has Multiple Sclerosis I’m pleased not to live in a sh*thole that would bankrupt me with medical bills. We’ve had mass shootings, but they happen about once every 20 years, not once a month. And while I wouldn’t say Canadian politicians are overly honest, they’re not bought and sold like every US politician, from the local sheriff all the way up, and they don’t do insider trading on information they hear in parliament. America is a third world country with lots of billionaires.

这是个可笑的想法。加拿大的预期寿命更长，婴儿死亡率低得多。作为一个患有多发性硬化症的人，我很高兴不用住在一个会让我因医疗账单而破产的粪坑里。我们发生过大规模枪击事件，但每20年才发生一次，而不是一个月发生一次。虽然我不敢说加拿大的政客们非常清廉，但他们不像从地方治安官往上的每个美国政客那样被收买，他们不会根据在议会听到的信息进行内幕交易。美国就是一个拥有大量亿万富翁的第三世界国家。

Robert Crooks
It depends on your definition of success.
If success is having lots of rich people, a huge military, giant economy and great world influence, then the U.S. definitely more successful.
But, if your definition is having people who, on average, are happier, healthier and wealthier, as measured by even American surveys like U.S. News & World Report, then Canada is more successful

这取决于你如何定义成功。
如果成功是拥有很多富人，巨大的军事力量，巨大的经济和巨大的世界影响力，那么美国肯定更成功。但是，如果你的定义是拥有平均来说更快乐、更健康、更富有的人，那么就连《美国新闻与世界报道》等美国调查也显示，加拿大更成功。

Ms. Wright
Canadians are not under threat of losing of their democracy or their reproductive rights. No Canadians will go bankrupt or die due to health care costs. School boards in Canada are not manipulated by racist and religious fanatics who want to ban books, teach “intelligent design”, or revisionist history. Canada’s conservative party is not batshit crazy. Due to paid parental leave and a minimum wage nearly double that of the U.S., Canadians are able to bond with their babies rather than returning to work within days. No Canadians are put to death for committing a crime.

加拿大人不会面临失去民主或生育权的威胁。没有加拿大人会因为医疗费用而破产或死亡。加拿大的学校董事会不会被那些种族主义者和宗教狂热分子所操纵。加拿大的保守党并不疯狂。
由于带薪育儿假和最低工资几乎是美国的两倍，加拿大人能够与他们的孩子在一起，而不是在几天内就要返回工作岗位。没有加拿大人会因为犯罪而被处死。

Tony Bartlett
How do you measure success? By pure monetary wealth then the well off in the USA is probably richer than Canadians.
However if you measure success by quality of life the Canadians knock the Americans into a co key hat

你如何衡量成功?从纯粹的货币财富来看，美国的富人可能比加拿大人更富有。然而，如果你用生活质量来衡量成功，加拿大人把美国人打得落花流水。

Bill Kumlin
The US has 10 times the population of Canada yet has 100 time the number of guns. It has 25 times the number of murders that Canada does (that’s 2.5 times based on population). It’s murder rate per 100,000 is almost 3 times Canada’s. The US, in its history, has killed more of its own citizens than in all of their wars combined.

美国人口是加拿大的10倍，但枪支数量却是加拿大的100倍。美国的谋杀数量是加拿大的25倍(按人口平均计算是加拿大的2.5倍)。每10万人中的谋杀率几乎是加拿大的3倍。在历史上，美国杀死的本国公民比所有战争的总和还要多。

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It always seems to be Americans who ask questions like this. It’s as if they’re mortally offended that anyone else in the universe might be perceived as being even remotely as successful as they are.
What they — and you — always fail to appreciate is that “successful” is an enormously elastic concept. One achieves success when one manages to accomplish whatever goal one has set for himself.
A great many Americans seem to live by Malcolm Forbes’ dictum that “he who dies with the most toys, wins”.
So do some Canadians, alas.
Fortunately for the planet, most of us do not.

似乎总是美国人会问这样的问题。他们好像总会因为宇宙中其他人被认为比他们成功得多一点点而受到极大的冒犯。：他们——以及你——总是无法理解的是，“成功”是一个非常有弹性的概念。当一个人成功地实现了他为自己设定的任何目标时，他就成功了。许多美国人似乎都信奉马尔科姆.福布斯的名言:“死时拥有最多玩具的人就是赢家”。唉，一些加拿大人也是如此。幸运的是，我们大多数人都不是这样。

Tim MacKinnon
Not possible. Canada is one of 23 countries in America.
however a lot of people use the continent’s name instead of saying USA. And the answer would be Canada is far more successful than the USA. Longer lives, fewer bankruptcy, lower infant mortality, better health, taller people, lower taxes, more equality.

不可能的。加拿大是美洲23个国家之一。然而，很多人使用该大陆的名字，而不是说美国。答案是加拿大比美国成功得多。更长的寿命，更少的破产，更低的婴儿死亡率，更好的健康，更高的人，更低的税收，更多的平等。

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Every year Forbes (a U.S. business magazine) publishes a list of the best countries to live in. The Scandaninavian countries always end up in the Top Ten. Canada does too, but lower down the list. The U.S. never makes the Top Ten.
Geoworld presented their own uation, with Canada coming in #4 spot, and U.S. coming in #23 spot for 2020.
The U.S. is the only modern Western countrie that does NOT have universal health care. They have vital statistics (infant mortality, adult life-span, education, health care, violence, etc) that make the U.S. look like a Third World country.
In fact, a year ago, Fortune Magazine said that the U.S. WAS now a Third World country.
The U.S. is a cesspool. I would never recommend to anyone to move to the U.S. I moved to Cananda in 1972, and my relatives back in the States wish they had done so, too. Life is so much better here.

美国商业杂志《福布斯》每年都会评选出最适宜居住的国家。斯堪的纳维亚半岛国家总是排在前十。加拿大也在，但排名靠后。美国从未进入前十。Geoworld给出了他们自己的评估，2020年加拿大排在第4位，美国排在第23位。美国是唯一一个没有全民医保的现代西方国家。他们有重要的统计数据(婴儿死亡率、成人寿命、教育、医疗保健、暴力等)，让美国看起来像一个第三世界国家。事实上，一年前，财富杂志说美国现在是第三世界国家。美国就是个粪坑。1972年，我搬到了加拿大，我在美国的亲戚们也希望能搬到加拿大。这里的生活好多了。

Kis Brink
I do not think it is. It would depend on how you define success but while many of the world’s richest people live in the US how miserably others live is a measure of the lack of success of the US.
Canada has never started a war - the US has started many,
The quality of life of the average person in the US has been dropping since 1952 it’s been going up here so while Canada could do much, much better that’s an aspiration we can work towards.
The success some people have doesn’t seem to translate well to a better life for the many.
It’s hard to know why anyone is left who thinks the US is a successful nation

我不这么认为。这取决于你如何定义成功，但尽管世界上许多最富有的人生活在美国，但其他人的悲惨生活是衡量美国缺乏成功的一个标准。
加拿大从来没有发动过战争——美国发动过很多次，
自1952年以来，美国普通人的生活质量一直在下降，加拿大是一直上升的，美国可以做得更好，这是我们可以努力的目标。很难理解为什么还有人认为美国是一个成功的国家。
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Malcolm
usa is very successful way more successful than canada. usa has the power to change a lot of things. it also has branding other countries and made them popular. you never really hear about canada that much really. mostly people want to come here.

美国非常成功，比加拿大成功得多。美国有能力改变很多事情。它的品牌还流行到其他国家。你从来没有听说过那么多关于加拿大的事。大多数人都想来这里。

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America has the biggest economy in the world. That’s been true since WWII. Quite an accomplishment for a country with less than 5% of the world population. Our demographics includes almost all races and cultures from across the world. The US economy is $20,9T. CA’s economy is $3T. Canada’s economy is 1.6T.

美国是世界上最大的经济体。自二战以来一直如此。对于一个人口不到世界人口5%的国家来说，这是一项相当大的成就。我们有包括来自世界各地几乎所有种族和文化的人。美国经济是20.9万亿美元。加州的经济是3万亿美元。加拿大的经济是1.6万亿。

Martin Alexandre
Canada is first, Japan second, Germany third, Switzerland fourth, Australia 5th and USA 6th in 2021 (US News and World Report and Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania) following polls taken and inquiries made in 78 countries of the world.

2021年，在全球78个国家进行了民意调查，加拿大排名第一，日本第二，德国第三，瑞士第四，澳大利亚第五，美国第六(宾夕法尼亚大学沃顿商学院《美国新闻与世界报道》)。

Mary C. Corbett
There are various reasons. Generalizing: Canada is much further north and has always been bitterly cold during long winters.
Farming: Crops generally do not fare as well. Think about it - the Maritimes are subject to extreme weather: wind, rain not infrequently at hurricane levels, bitter winter and poor growing seasons (minor local exceptions), Quebec is largely northern with decent growing areas around Montreal and south of it. Ontario is fairly decent in the southern part, between Lakes Huron and Erie and to some extent Ontario. The southern prairies are OK - except when there is drought or frost at the wrong time - they produce huge wheat etc crops. BC - well there are areas (most recently some key ones were flooded). The more northerly areas - mostly, forget it in terms of creating any mass wealth from growing.
Mining: There is oil etc off the East coast and in the prairies (mainly Alberta) - unfortunately a lot is owned by … foreign interests.
Fisheries: …
Manufacturing; To a great extent in Ontario, and very extensively subject to foreign control …
The climate is no joke. You try being outside when it is minus 40–50 Fahrenheit - Much of Canada is more similar to Siberia in structure, climate and resources than to the US.
The population? It was about 7–8 million (maybe) when I went to school -and is now what? 37–8 million. Helping the numbers grow and creating enough wealth to support that change in numbers has been no mean feat either!
So we are mostly not in a moderate weather zone like the US, therefore we have settled our country later, - and the US has absorbed rights to the various forms of manufacturing possible with the natural resources of the continent as a whole.

原因有很多。概括一下就是:加拿大在更北的地方，在漫长的冬天里总是非常寒冷。
农业:一般来说，农作物的收成并不好。沿海地区常受极端天气影响，飓风级别的大风、雨也不少见，严冬的生长不佳(局部例外)。魁北克主要位于北部，蒙特利尔周围和南部都有不错的种植区。南部的安大略相当不错，位于休伦湖和伊利湖之间，在某种程度上也位于安大略。南部的大草原还好，除非在错误的时间出现干旱或霜冻，他们生产大量的小麦等作物。英属哥伦比亚有一些地区还行(最近一些关键地区被淹了)。至于更北部的地区——大多数情况下，在通过增长创造大规模财富方面，我们还是忘了它吧。
矿产:在东海岸和大草原(主要是阿尔伯塔省)有石油等。不幸的是，很多都被外国利益集团拥有。
渔业:......
制造业:大部分在安大略，而且很大程度上受到外国的控制。
气候可不是闹着玩的。你试着在零下40-50华氏度感受一下室外，与美国相比，加拿大的大部分地区在结构、气候和资源方面更类似于西伯利亚。
人口呢?我上学的时候大概有700万到800万人，现在大概3700~3800万人。帮助人口数字增长和创造足够的财富来支持人口的变化也不是一件容易的事!
我们不像美国那样处于温和的气候区，所以我们稍后才定居，美国利用整个非洲大陆的自然资源，吸收了各种可能的制造业的权利。

Chris Giesbrecht
I have never lived in the United States, so I can't really compare the two based on personal experience. However, I've had many conversations with Americans and I've never met a more welcoming bunch of people. I don't think I've met an American that I didn't like. That said, there are some fundamental differences in attitude. Ideas that make sense to me, a Canadian, are baffling to Americans, and I'm sure the vice versa is true.
Free health care, paid for with taxes, is hands down the main reason I’m glad to stay in Canada. I make a very comfortable living, and would if I lived there as well with my current profession. But I still could not easily afford the medical bills required to give birth, or mend a broken leg, or, god forbid, get cancer treatments, unless I had some pretty good insurance which millions of Americans don't have but which every Canadian does. The joke up here is that a Canadian version of Breaking Bad would last like half an episode. “Mr. white you have cancer. Your treatments start next week. Any questions?”
The usual argument I get from my American friends is something along the lines of “"why should MY taxes pay for somebody else?” These are presented as serious arguments.
There is a social safety net in Canada, ensuring that the least of us can still expect not to starve to death, or die needlessly of a treatable illness. Believe me, the lives of the poor still suck, but there's a reason why Canada’s life expectancy at birth is higher, and rate of infant mortality is lower, than the U.S.
Canada is light years from being perfect. I'm not arguing that Canada is somehow ‘better’. We treat our indigenous people like shit, and racism towards them is probably more overt than any racism in the states. We have fewer billionaires and fewer innovators in science and engineering. And don't listen to other comments, there is some serious crime in a few of our cities, primarily in Western Canada;
If you're a smart, ambitious, lucky, and otherwise gifted individual, then maybe America is better.
I, and most other Canadians, love America and think you can do better than what you're given, but to say that life in one is better than the other is an unanswerable question, even by those that have experienced both.

我从来没有在美国生活过，所以基于我的个人经历，我真的无法比较这两个国家。然而，我和美国人谈过很多次，我从来没有遇到过比他们更热情的人。我想我遇到的所有美国人都是我喜欢的。也就是说，两国在态度上存在一些根本差异。相反的，我作为一个加拿大人，也会让美国人感到困惑。毫无疑问，用税收支付的免费医疗是我愿意留在加拿大的主要原因。以我目前的专业能力，住在美国也能过着不错的生活。但我仍然负担不起生孩子所需的医药费，还有比如腿断了，比如癌症，也负担不起，除非我有很好的保险，数百万美国人没有这些保险，但每个加拿大人都有。有个笑话，就加拿大版的《绝命毒师》可能只会持续半集。“怀特先生，你得了癌症。你的治疗下周开始。有什么问题吗?”
我通常从我的美国朋友那里听到的争论是类似于“为什么我的税要用在别人身上”之类的。这些都是严肃的论点。
加拿大有一个社会安全网，确保我们中最普通的人仍然可以不饿死，或不必要地死于可治疗的疾病。相信我，虽然穷人的生活仍然很糟糕，但加拿大出生时的预期寿命高于美国，婴儿死亡率低于美国，这是有原因的。加拿大离完美还有好几光年的距离。我并不是说加拿大在某种程度上“更好”。我们对待原住民像屎一样，对他们的种族歧视可能比美国任何种族歧视都要明显。在科学和工程领域，我们的亿万富翁和创新者越来越少。不要听别人的评论，在我们的一些城市有一些严重的犯罪，主要是在加拿大西部。
如果你是一个聪明、有抱负、幸运或天赋异禀的人，那么也许美国更好。
我和大多数加拿大人都热爱美国，认为你们可以做得比你所得到的更好，但要说一个国家的生活比另一个更好，这是一个无法回答的问题，即使对那些经历过这两种生活的人来说也是如此。

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