QA问答：为什么这么多美国人想要移民到瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麦、澳大利亚、加拿大、日本、新西兰和荷兰？

Why do so many Americans want to move to Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and the Netherlands?

为什么这么多的美国人想搬去瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麦、澳大利亚、加拿大、日本、新西兰和荷兰？

Pilar Quezzaire
I decided to answer this as an American who actually moved to the Netherlands. The other posters are Americans living Stateside who haven’t emigrated and are speculating.
There are three main reasons I left the US:
The US has a cruel social system. From its credit ratings to expensive and sporadic health care, Americans are punished for poverty and rewarded for greed. This is on top of more virulent racism, police brutality, religious fundamentalism and other signs of an unequal and failing state. There are better systems that make it possible to live free and live well. The Netherlands happened to be where I ended up with a job after having lived abroad a while. I discovered quickly how much less stressful it is to live, work, buy a house, pay for health care, etc. Things are not perfect in the Netherlands, but there is less inequality and more opportunities for educated people.
Americans enjoy being cruel to one another. They participate in a cruel system, and this rubs off on how they interact with each other and “the other.” I got tired of it. It’s easier to be kind and charitable for good effect instead of satisfying one’s ego or dolling out “charity” to those considered “deserving” (almost always with flawed judgment, emphasis on judgment. Americans are very judgmental compared to many other countries.)
Lastly, I was exhausted by Americans’ ignorance of the rest of the world. The constant “American Dream” propaganda, being inundated with the country’s “greatness” despite its flaws being glaringly obvious, and otherwise being unable to see past America to other, more successful countries. The US takes that ignorance unto the international stage through its military and diplomatic thuggery, and that hadn’t done much to help the world.
I just didn’t want to be associated with America’s problem nor promote its “greatness.” It’s a right-wing country with ego problems, even if its people are from many different opinions and walks of life.

我决定以一个移居荷兰的美国人的身份来回答这个问题。其他的发帖人都是住在美国的美国人，他们没有移民过，只是在猜测。
我离开美国有三个主要原因：
美国的社会制度很残酷。从信用评级到昂贵而零星的医疗保健，美国人因贫穷而受到惩罚，因贪婪而得到奖励。除此之外，还有更严重的种族主义、警察暴行、宗教原教旨主义和其他一些不平等和失败国家的迹象。有更好的体制系统可以让人们自由地生活，生活得更好。在国外生活了一段时间后，我在荷兰找到了一份工作。我很快发现，生活、工作、买房、支付医疗保健等方面的压力大大减轻了。荷兰的情况并不完美，但不平等现象减少了，受过教育的人有了更多的机会。
美国人喜欢对彼此残忍。他们参与了一个残酷的体制，这影响了他们如何与他人沟通互动。我厌倦了。与满足自我或施舍给那些“值得”的人相比，做一个善良和慈善的人更容易获得良好的效果。（几乎总是有错误的判断，而且强调判断。和许多其他国家相比，美国人很爱评头论足。）
最后，美国人对世界其他地区的无知让我筋疲力尽。不断的“美国梦”宣传，充斥着这个国家的“伟大”，尽管它的缺陷是显而易见的，否则就无法看到其他更成功的国家超越美国。美国通过军事和外交手段将这种无知带到国际舞台上，而这对世界并没有多大帮助。
我只是不想和美国的问题扯上关系，也不想宣扬它的“伟大”。
这是一个有自我问题的右翼国家，尽管它的人民有着不同的观点和生活阶层。

Chris Ebbert
Well, those are very nice, modern countries where life is comfortable.
And if someone has options, one of these will definitely offer an alternative to the US. I considered all of these plus some when I moved on from the US, too.
I guess the main thing I was missing in the US was an element of depth. Having grown up in Europe, it just seemed to me that the whole American living experience was a bit like “just add water” - everything was quick and easy, colourful, and presented with a wide grin by some fabulously upbeat fella who wished you a nice day.
This was immensely fun for a while, but then it sank in that the whole world that was created there was somehow made from cardboard, and that all the flashy Buicks and particle board mansions came with a short expiry date and weren’t really based in much history or culture.
So it’s basically like living surrounded by cheap and flashy home improvement market grade stuff.
I kind of woke up when I visited Japan, and my sister in London.
That’s when it dawned on me that there was a whole dimension of interestingness that’s lacking in the US. And eventually, I left again, and have found my home in Europe anew. I suppose I had to leave first to appreciate what I had there to begin with.

嗯，那些都是生活舒适的现代化国家。
如果有人有选择的机会，其中一个国家肯定会提供一个替代美国的选择。当我离开美国的时候，我会考虑所有的问题。
我想我在美国最缺少的是深度元素。我是在欧洲长大的，对我来说，整个美国的生活经历有点像“加水就好”——一切都很快捷、简单、丰富多彩，而且会有一个非常乐观的家伙带着笑容祝你有个美好的一天。
这在一段时间内是非常有趣的，但随后你就会意识到，在那里创造的整个世界都是用纸板做成的，所有华而不实的别克车和颗粒板大厦都是短期的，而且没有多少历史或文化基础。
所以基本上就像生活在廉价和华丽的家居装饰市场级别的东西。
当我去日本的时候，我的妹妹在伦敦。
那时我才意识到，这里有一个美国所缺乏的有趣的维度。最终，我再次离开了日本，在欧洲重新找到了我的家。我想我必须先离开才能欣赏和理解我在那里开始的一切。
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James Martin
The reality is the number of Americans becoming ex-pats isn’t growing per capita, just the overall number is increasing because the population base is growing. So the emigration from the US is pretty much like it has been for several decades (no big change).
So now that the “so many” part of the question has been addressed. Let’s look at what kind of people move from a Capitalistic Republic to a Socialist Democracy nation (alas Venezuela doesn’t fall into that category as the so-called patriots seem to always troll in these kind of posts).
Quality of life. This is a biggie for most since money isn’t everything and the mercenary style of an Ayn Rand inspired political and corporate attitude is too much for people willing to become foreigners and leave it all behind. Life is about living, not just about working. So those looking for a better balance of work and life outside of work will choose any of those countries (except for Japan).
Raising children. Ex-pats don’t have to worry about their kids being shot at school and don’t go through active shooter drills because unrestricted gun rights isn’t an issue outside the US. Add the better quality of education for elementary and secondary school, the kids can always go back to the US for University if they want, but the parents know their child will make it to adulthood without being shot at school, not something that can be guaranteed in the US.
Healthcare. The US healthcare is over priced and underperforming; you are more likely to die in the US healthcare system than any of the other countries. The US is the only of those countries where medical bankruptcy is a thing.
Depth and Worldview. Born in America (13th generation), but moved when I was five weeks old to the UK and later Germany, I grew up in Europe, so “returning” to the US for University made me more a foreigner than an American. I tried to integrate but the culture shock was massive. What I found hardest was the lack of depth and myopic worldview in the majority of people. Friendly like nowhere else in the world, but too hung up on religion, sex, politics, sports, and cults of personality.

事实是，成为外籍人士的美国人数量并不是人均增长，而是总体增长，因为人口基数在增长。所以从美国移民到其他国家的情况和过去几十年差不多（没有大的变化）。
所以现在问题的“很多”部分已经被解决了。让我们看看什么样的人从资本主义共和国走向社会主义民主国家（委内瑞拉不属于这一类，因为所谓的爱国者似乎总是这类帖子中喷子）。
生活质量，这对大多数人来说都是件大事，因为金钱不是一切，而受艾茵·兰德鼓舞的政治和企业唯利是图的态度和风格，让那些愿意成为外国人、把一切抛在脑后的人难以承受。生活就是生活，而不仅仅是工作。所以那些想在工作之外寻求更好的工作和生活平衡的人会选择这些国家中的任何一个（除了日本）。
抚养孩子，外籍人士不用担心他们的孩子在学校被枪击，也不用参加积极的射击训练，因为在美国以外，不受限制的持枪权利不是一个问题。再加上小学和中学的教育质量更好，如果他们想的话，孩子以后也是可以回到美国上大学的，但父母知道并保证他们的孩子会在学校里长大而不会被枪击，这在美国是不能保证的。
医疗保健服务，美国医疗服务定价过高，表现不佳；你在美国的医疗体系中死亡的可能性比其他任何国家都大。美国是唯一一个医疗破产的国家。
深度和世界观。我出生在美国（第13代），但在我5周大的时候搬到了英国，后来又搬到了德国，我在欧洲长大，所以“回到”美国上大学让我更像一个外国人，而不是美国人。我试图融入美国社会，但文化冲击太大了。我发现最困难的是大多数人缺乏深度和短视的世界观。与世界上其他任何地方都不一样，大多数人都不友好，但对宗教、性、政治、体育和个人崇拜太过执着。

Christina Roberts
Many of us are tired of the same things Europeans dislike about the USA.
The religiosity, the flag waving, the never ending military interventions (wars) the bigotry, just for starters. The veneration of ignorance, and gun culture, the every day carnage of gun violence.
I would be out of here in a New York minute, but few countries will take us. They know we are medical refugees.

我们很多人厌倦了欧洲人不喜欢美国的那些事情。
宗教狂热，旗帜飘扬，无休止的军事干预（战争），偏见，这只是开始。对无知的崇敬，枪支文化，每天都有枪支暴力的大屠杀。
我在纽约待上一分钟不到就想离开这里，但很少有国家会接纳我们。他们知道我们是医疗难民

Bruce McFarland Oncins
Only speaking for myself. I am living in Germany. I have been here now 16 years.
I did not want to move here. I came on a business trip and was captured!
I was asked to stay and help on a project. After 3 months I was asked to move out the Hilton and find an apartment. But for that you need to register at the city hall and have a contract. So the company gave me a local contract. A few months later my future wife and I “hooked” up at the Oktoberfest. 6 weeks later I proposed in Paris. 2 year later married. 2 year after that, house, the 1 kid, then another, then a dog…
I did not WANT to move here.
Do I miss the U.S.? Sure.. I miss some of my friends from my younger years. I visit occasionally. I show my kids were I grew up…. They loved Disney, Florida, N.Y., Houston (I have no idea why), N’awlins. They were amazed by the shitty highways and all the wires on poles. They hated the sprawl, cause it takes forever to get anywhere.
Anyway, I like it here more than there. But that is not to stay I wouldn’t be happy back in the US.

只代表我自己，我住在德国，我在这里已经16年了。
我不想搬到这里来，我来出差，但被抓了！
我被邀请留下来帮助完成一个项目。3个月后，我被要求搬出希尔顿，找一间公寓住。但你需要在市政厅登记，签一份合同。所以公司给了我一份本地合同。几个月后，我未来的妻子和我在啤酒节上“勾搭”上了。六周后，我在巴黎求婚了。2年后结婚。两年之后，有了房子，一个孩子，然后有了另一个孩子，然后有了一条狗……
我不想搬到这里来。
我想念美国吗？的确…..我想念我年轻时的一些朋友。我偶尔去拜访他们。我向我的孩子们证明我已经长大了....他们喜欢迪斯尼、佛罗里达、纽约、休斯顿（我也不知道为什么）和N 'awlins。他们对糟糕的高速公路和杆子上的电线感到惊讶。他们讨厌城市的扩张，因为要去任何地方都要花很长时间。
不管怎样，比起那里，我更喜欢这里（德国）。但这并不是说留在美国我不会开心的。

Eric Armstrong
It comes down to our antiquated system of government, I think. Here, corporations rule the roost. Republicans are mostly religious fascists, with a few good apples, while too many Democrats are sucking at the corporate teat to get any real change accomplished. As a result, we are producing the richest, most elite aristocracy in the history of the world—an aristocracy that seems bent on destroying the environment, presumably because they have the wherewithal to create “safe havens” for themselves, and the hell with everyone else.
We’ve been losing a million people a year from the middle class since the 1990’s, thanks in large part to Reagan and his derivatives, but no small thanks go to “corporate Democrats”, as well.
We are DEAD LAST among industrial nations on EVERY statistical measure of social, political, and personal well-being, yet an ignorant 40% of the country (70 million people!) continue to believe the drivel that this is “the best country in the world” (as if!).
Republicans, meanwhile, use gerrymandering and race politics to stay in power, starting wars for the sake of the riches they accrue from the carnage.
I had hoped my plan for Social Media Voting Advice would turn things around, but I’m beginning to worry that it may be too late. Democracy, after all, is about NON-violent revolution. The alternative is for things to get so bad that the unthinkable becomes the only remaining option.

我认为，这要归结于我们陈旧的政府体制。在这里，企业主宰一切。共和党人大多是宗教法西斯主义者，有几个好苹果，而太多的民主党人正在吮吸企业，以实现任何真正的改变。因此，我们产生了世界历史上最富有、最精英的贵族阶层，这个贵族阶层似乎一心想破坏环境，大概是因为他们有足够的资金为自己创造“安全港”，而让其他所有人都下地狱。
自20世纪90年代以来，我们每年失去100万中产阶级，这在很大程度上要感谢里根和他的衍生品，但也要感谢“民主党公司”。
在社会、政治和个人幸福的每一项统计指标上，我们在工业国家中都是垫底的，然而无知的40%的国家（7000万人！）继续相信这是“世界上最好的国家”的胡言乱语（好像！）
与此同时，共和党人利用不公正划分选区和种族政治来维持权力，为了从大屠杀中获得财富而发动战争。
我原本希望我的社交媒体投票建议计划能扭转局面，但我开始担心，可能已经太迟了。毕竟，民主就是非暴力革命。另一种选择是，事情变得如此糟糕，以至于无法想象的事情成为唯一剩下的选择。

Terry Mummery
I am not an American so my response may not reflect their views. People relocate to another country for many reasons, so it is difficult to assign a few reasons to all the different drivers that are involved.
At different stages of one’s life the importance of the individual drivers take on greater or lesser importance.
As an example, a healthy young adult has little concern about future health costs, but meeting their ideal partner ranks very highly in their list of drivers, at that time moving country may be a Minor inconvenience.
They may want to study the language and culture of another culture in more depth than a brief holiday would allow, at that point that is an important driver.
They may consider that moving to another country due to the requirements of the company they are currently employed by, a career enhancing move that can also provide an increased job prospect in the future what ever company they are working for in the future.
As they grow older and have become more settled, their partner may have family abroad and the elder members are now requiring care, so moving to that country to provide that support becomes the dominant driver.
The person may want a change of lifestyle or new challenges and setting up again in a new country provides those challenges. They may be presented with an opportunity to fulfil a lifelong ambition and jump at the chance to fulfil it.
As a person ages they may want more security from the health stand point that driver becomes of more important later in life, but countries discriminate against older people coming just from health care so moving a bit earlier allows an easier entry into the country.
There are many other drivers, but I hope the reader can see from the above examples that an individual can have many reasons to make a move, everyone has their own reasons .

我不是美国人，所以我的回答可能不能反映他们的观点。人们移居到另一个国家有很多原因，因此，很难为涉及到的所有不同的驱动因素列举几个原因。
在人生的不同阶段，各个驱动因素的重要性会有所不同。
例如，一个健康的年轻人很少关心未来的健康成本，但遇到理想的伴侣在他们的驱动因素名单上排名非常高，那时搬家可能会有点不方便。
他们可能想要更深入地学习另一种文化和语言，而不仅仅是一个短暂的假期，在这一点上，这是一个重要的驱动因素。
他们可能会考虑因为公司的要求而移居到其他国家，这是一种职业提升，也可以为他们将来工作的公司提供一个更好的就业前景。
随着他们年龄的增长和生活的安定，他们的伴侣可能在国外有家人，而年长的家人现在需要照顾，所以搬到那个国家提供帮助成为了主要的驱动因素。
这个人可能想要改变生活方式或接受新的挑战，在一个新的国家重新建立生活关系和生活方式提供了这些挑战。他们可能会得到一个实现终身抱负的机会，并抓住这个机会去实现它。
随着年龄的增长，从健康的角度来看，人们可能会想要更多的安全保障，这种驱动因素在以后的生活中变得更加重要，但在一些国家，老年人只接受医疗保健服务就会受到歧视，所以提早一点移民就会让他们更容易进入这个国家。
还有很多其他的驱动因素，但是我希望读者可以从上面的例子中看到，每个人都有很多的理由去选择离开，每个人都有自己的理由。

Adam Gurowski
Because the benefits they offer are a great benefit to those least likely to be able to immigrate in the first place.
If you look at many of the other answers, there’s only one American who has actually moved. Looking at her job descxtion, it looks like it requires hard to find skills, probably pays a reasonable amount, and happens to be internationally focused. So while she definitely has quality of life concerns about America and for our general lack of understanding of the rest of the world, she also has a clear opportunity to do so.
Your average Burger King employee that wants to bring down capitalism is unlikely to have the same opportunity. Looking at the Dutch immigration from the US page, it looks like they want skilled workers or business owners. While there certainly is skill in flipping burgers/interacting with customers/etc., it also isn’t a rare skill and they might have a preference for people who already speak Dutch. Since America isn’t quite so bad to be producing refugees, it’s hard to imagine how poorer Americans would be able to make that move. Even moving domestically can be difficult for poorer Americans so an international trip is likely to be nigh impossible for many. So that’s probably why many people want to move but can’t.
Recently, I started with a new job that actually has benefits and seems like a place where I would be glad to retire(as opposed to the previous jobs where I would have been horrified to have retired there). Now I wouldn’t have the same motivation for moving. Those benefits of a welfare state are good compared to Burger King’s benefits but not so much with my new job. And a move to the Netherlands would be pretty far from most of my family and friends. I enjoyed my time in the Peace Corps in Zambia but it did entail sacrifices of time spent with family and friends in the US for holidays. That was fine for two years but not for decades.
At this point, it’s harder to see many situations where I would emigrate. Perhaps a spectacular job offer or a situation where the US turned into a source rather than sink of refugees. But until then, I likely would visit as a tourist rather than as a migrant.
For those who do advance in their non-international careers, they might have some interest in moving but it no longer has the same appeal when compared to what they already have. In most cases, just voting for people who will enact policies to make America more like those other countries is easier than moving to those countries.

因为他们提供的福利对那些最不可能移民的人来说是一个很大的好处。
如果你看看其他的答案，只有一个美国人真的搬了家。
从她的工作描述来看，似乎很难发现有什么技能，薪酬可能还算合理，而且碰巧是国际业务。因此，尽管她肯定对美国的生活质量感到担忧，而且我们对世界其他地区普遍缺乏了解，但她也有明显的机会这样做。
想要打倒资本主义的普通汉堡王员工不太可能有同样的机会。看看美国页面上的荷兰移民，看起来他们想要的是技术工人或企业主。当然，在烙牛肉饼/与顾客互动/等方面也有技巧。在美国，这也不是一项罕见的技能，他们可能会偏爱已经会说荷兰语的人。由于美国产生难民的情况还不算太糟，很难想象较贫穷的美国人如何才能做到这一点。对于较贫穷的美国人来说，即使在国内搬家也会很困难，因此出国旅行对很多人来说几乎是不可能的。
所以这可能就是为什么很多人想搬却搬不动的原因。
最近，我开始了一份新工作，这份工作实际上是有福利的，而且似乎是一个我愿意退休的地方（而不是以前的工作，如果退休的话我会感到害怕）。现在我就不会有同样的搬家动机了。与汉堡王的福利相比，福利国家的福利是不错的，但与我的新工作相比就没那么好了。而且搬到荷兰会离我的家人和朋友很远。我很享受在赞比亚的和平队的时光，但这确实需要牺牲与家人和朋友在美国度假的时间。两年还行，但几十年就不行了。
在这一点上，很难看到很多情况下我会移民。也许是一份好工作，或者是美国变成了难民的来源地而不是落脚点。但在那之前，我可能会以游客的身份而不是移民的身份来参观。
对于那些在非国际职业生涯中取得进步的人来说，他们可能对跳槽有一些兴趣，但与他们现有的工作相比，跳槽不再具有同样的吸引力。在大多数情况下，仅仅投票给那些制定政策使美国更像其他国家的人要比移居这些国家容易得多。

Lynn Fredricks
The list of countries have few commonalities, but two are worth mentioning: perceived quality of life and at least somewhat socialized health care.
However the question is about motivation, and there is an assumption in the question that makes answering it more difficult. Here is why:
Some Americans are moving to a specific country. That country may have specific features or interest that fall outside of the others. For example, I have a familial interest in Norway, but I also had personal interest in Japan (which led me to living there for quite a few years).
Some Americans daydream about moving away from America. They are unhappy for one reason or other and, just like the 2020 Presidential Election, their perspective wasn’t to vote for Biden but to vote for Not-Trump.
With this in mind though, there is nothing to say that these Americans know much at all about the other country, if those countries would accept them as permanent residents, or if there are some other reasons why they wouldn’t want to live there (because of their ignorance of what life is really like there).
Also, daydreaming about moving to a different country isn’t particularly unusual. A lot of people around the world experience a ‘grass is greener’ feeling at some point in their lives. Americans are no different in that regards - though perhaps they are more noisy about it.

这些国家没有什么共同点，但有两个值得一提: 感知到的生活质量和社会化的医疗保健。
然而，这个问题是关于移民的驱动因素，而且问题中有一个假设，这使得回答这个问题更加困难。这里有几个原因：
一些美国人正在移居一个特定的国家。这个国家可能有其他国家没有的特点和利益。例如，我对挪威有家族利益，但我也对日本有个人利益（这导致我在那里生活了好几年）。
一些美国人做着离开美国的白日梦。他们不开心是因为这样或那样的原因，就像2020年的总统选举一样，他们的观点不是投票给拜登，而是投票给“非特朗普”。
考虑到这一点，这些美国人根本就不了解其他国家，这些国家是否会接受他们作为永久居民，或者是否有其他原因他们不想住在那里（因为他们不知道那里的生活是什么样的）。
而且，做着移居另一个国家的白日梦也并不罕见。世界上很多人都有过这种感觉。美国人在这方面也没有什么不同——尽管他们可能更吵闹。
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Sumanth Murthy
I suspect the vast majority don’t and that’s because they don’t know how the institutions and social systems work in those countries.
They may not bother to find out and that’s fine.
Those who ARE AWARE of the countries in question I suspect they want to move because of:
Universal Healthcare
Subsidized schooling
Pensions
Insurance systems
Work-life balance.
However the majority of Americans would not qualify to immigrate to any of these countries, just like the majority of Brits will not qualify to immigrate to Australia since the vast majority of visas in Europe or Australia or Japan are reserved for people with exceptional skills in areas which have shortage - IT, Medicine, Accounting and Nursing.
Added to this, there are language barriers (except in The UK or Australia or New Zealand or Canada) to move to the majority of Europe or Japan. You cannot live permanently if you don’t know Swedish or German or Finnish or Dutch.

我怀疑绝大多数人都不会移民，这是因为他们不知道这些国家的制度和社会制度是如何运作的。
他们可能不会费心去发现，这很好。
那些了解这些国家的人，我怀疑他们想要离开是因为：
全民医疗
津贴学校
养老金
保险制度
工作生活平衡
然而大多数美国人不会有资格移民到这些国家，就像大多数英国人不会有资格移民到澳大利亚，因为欧洲、澳大利亚或日本的绝大多数签证都是预留给在IT、医药、会计和护理等紧缺领域拥有特殊技能的人的
此外，移民到欧洲或日本等大部分地区还有语言障碍（英国、澳大利亚、新西兰或加拿大除外）。如果你不懂瑞典语、德语、芬兰语或荷兰语，你就无法长时间生活在那里。

Peter Falk
Because they believe that those places have more of whatever they are missing here in the USA. What is particularly interesting is that both conservatives AND liberals seems to believe that Sweden is better: conservatives because of the liberal restrictions on masking against Covid, and liberals b/c of Sweden's social security policies.
Ironic, isn't it!

因为他们认为这些地方拥有更多他们在美国所缺少的东西。
特别有趣的是，保守派和自由派似乎都认为瑞典更好：保守派是因为自由派限制戴口罩对抗新冠病毒，自由派则是因为瑞典的社会保障政策。
很讽刺，不是吗！
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Pavon Colombia
Even to Japan? Then US might be a really bad situation now. Japan is not so good place especially for foreigners who can not speak Japanese. Among the countries you mentioned, only Japanese is a country with few English speakers.
Due to lack of good social system (e.g. medical care), education (extremely expensive but too commercialized) it is likely to happen.

日本也算吗？那么美国现在的情况可能真的很糟糕。日本不是一个好地方，尤其是对不会说日语的外国人来说。在你提到的国家中，只有日本是一个很少说英语的国家。
由于缺乏良好的社会制度（如医疗保健），教育（非常昂贵但太商业化）很可能也是如此。