网友讨论:日本人对人口老龄化的反应
The Japanese React To The Aging Population | ASIAN BOSS译文简介
网友:虽然人口老龄化是一个问题,但我认为日本更大的问题在于人口数量下降。日本没有出台任何鼓励生育的政策,不管是产妇福利还是社会服务都没有提供。而且我认为一旦年轻一代变老,就根本没有可以照顾他们了。日本是一个技术先进,世界上最富裕的国家之一,但同时却又是世界上幸福度最低的国家之一......
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While the aging population is an issue, I believe that the bigger issue is population declination. There aren't any incentives at all to have children in Japan whether it's maternal benefits, social services, etc. Also, I'd like to note that once this young generation becomes old, there will simply be no people to look after them. For a technologically advanced and one of the richest countries out there, it is surprising that Japan is one of the unhappiest nations out there. Maybe due to to the overwhelming overtime stress, society expectations, low wages. I think it mostly falls on the Japan government and more policies / incentives must be implemented to quickly rectify the issue.
虽然人口老龄化是一个问题,但我认为日本更大的问题在于人口数量下降。日本没有出台任何鼓励生育的政策,不管是产妇福利还是社会服务都没有提供。而且我认为一旦年轻一代变老,就根本没有可以照顾他们了。日本是一个技术先进,世界上最富裕的国家之一,但同时却又是世界上幸福度最低的国家之一。或许这是由于巨大的加班压力,社会期望和低工资造成的。我认为这主要是日本政府的责任,他们必须实施更多的政策/激励措施来快速解决这个问题
Devin Stambolziovski sorry but I disagree with you. Sure mentality is part of the issue, but is not a fundamental reasoning. I'm sure there are many people wanting to raise children of their own in Japan, but I think it has more to do with one person's financial situation. When people are being overworked for slave wages and are denied any social services, do you really think these people would have children even if they wanted to? Also, I have heard people have the risk of losing their jobs even if they take a short time off to be with family.
抱歉,我不同意你的观点。肯定,心态是一部分原因,但不是根本原因。我肯定很多日本人是愿意抚养孩子的,但我认为这更多的与个人的经济状况有关。当人们疯狂的工作却只能拿到那么一点工资,并且无法获得任何社会服务的时候,就算他们想要生孩子,他们也不会去生。而且我听说,日本人就算休小假和家人呆在一起也会有失业的风险。
Declining population is good for the environment. The Earth is overpopulated and it's not sustainable in the long run, so I think it's great to see a declining trend in population sizes in many first world countries.
对环境来说,人口下降是一件好事。现在地球人口过多,从长远来看,这是不可持续的,所以我认为许多第一世界人口下降是一件好事。
I don't think declination of population is the main problem, because the planetis facing the problem of overpopulation.
我认为人口下降不是什么大问题,因为地球正面临人口过剩的问题。
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Their problem could be alleviated or maybe solved with controlled immigration.
日本的问题可以通过有限度的外来移民来缓减
Countries that usually enter the category of "1st world" naturally have lower populations.
第一世界国家的人口往往都较少。
"there will be no people to look after them" -- does it have to be people? How about robots?
“未来没有人可以照顾他们”
必须要是人吗?机器人怎么样?
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People will maybe start to figure out that advanced technologies won't make someone happier. You can say that it's useful, sure it is, but in the end, we feel more useless and less human especially with the fact that we do no longer need to see someone in real life or have contact with him/her. + for sure, I do agree with you, they don''t have the time nor the money to raise childrens.
人们或许会开始发现先进技术并不会让人们变得更加的幸福。你可以说先进的技术很有用,这当然没有错,但最后我们会觉得自己没有价值,变得没有人情味,尤其是因为有了先进的技术,我们不需要在现实生活中也能见到某个人,并与他或她产生联系。当然,我同意你的观点,他们没有时间没有金钱养育孩子
The declining birth rate directly contributes to the aging population
出生率下降直接导致了人口老龄化
I agree with you. The source of the problem is because of declining birth rate. But I understand japanese people feeling. There's a lot of reasons why they don't want to have a child. Some of the reasons is the long working hour, expensive price, etc. I have watched an interview of japanese couple,they are married but decide not to have a child.
我同意你的看法。问题的根源是出生率的下降。但我理解日本人的感受。他们不想要孩子的原因有很多。一些人是因为工作时间长,物价高等。我曾看过一对日本夫妇接受采访的视频,他们已经成婚但决定不生孩子。
他们说原因是因为他们两人要到晚上十点才能工作回家,所以他们没办法关心生不生孩子这个问题。我认为日本的工作文化必须改变,日本上班族每天都要加班。如果每天都要加班的话,那么根本就没有办法照顾自己的家庭。我认识一个日本人,他说自己已经嫁给了工作。
生活在其他国家的人是为了生活而工作,而日本人是为了工作而活着。生活成本的提高使得他们更加要不起孩子了。而随着提取养老金年龄的提高,形势变得更加的严峻。年轻人无法获得提拔,空缺出来的岗位无法由年轻人填补,因为老员工依然还在公司里面。如果年轻人找不到工作或者无法得到晋升的话,那么他们怎么敢生孩子?就算生了孩子,也没有钱去养孩子。这导致了日本出生率的下降,当然也导致了人口老龄化。
In my opinion culture and religion has the biggest impact on fertility rate, if you look among developed countries with high birth rate, israel has the highest at 3.11 and france with largest muslim population in eu
在我看来,文化和宗教对出生率的影响是最大的,在发达国家里面,以色列的出生率是最高的,达到了3.11,还有法国,它是欧盟国家里面穆斯林人口最多的国家。
We need population decline in india.
我们印度需要人口下降
Its because Japan shuts everybody out and makes everything strict.
因为日本把所有人都拒之门外,对一切都很严格
All over the world there are people who don’t think they are going to be old one day.
世界上总有人认为自己有一天不会变老
When most of the policies are more beneficial towards elderly, younger generation can't help but to focus on their career first instead of planning to have a family in their 20-30s and i think that is one of the reason why they have this kind of problem.
当大部分政策都对老年人有利的时候,年轻人就会情不自禁的想要将事业放在第一位,而不是在自己二三十岁的时候成家。我认为这是为什么日本会出现这种问题的一个原因。
Aging is a major problem to Japan, but it seems to me that many of their senior citizens are still working. Japanese live very long life, and their having healthy diet is one of the reasons why they are still able to work even when they get really old.
老龄化是日本的一个主要问题,但在我看来,似乎很多老年人依然还在工作。日本人的寿命很长,日本人年纪那么大依然能够工作的原因之一就是他们饮食非常的健康。
their bodies may live longer, but their minds age the same as everywhere.
他们或许可以获得更久,但他们的思维能力和其他地区的老年人一样也会老化。
Japan government policies focused on the elderly are due to low voter turnout of young japanese.
日本政府实施以老年人为中心的政策的原因在于日本年轻人投票率非常的低
There is more elderly voters for politicans. Some younger people can't even vote yet. So its not benifical to politician's career to help young people.
对于日本政客来说,老年选民的人数更多,一些年轻人甚至还没有投票的资格。所以帮助年轻人对于政客来说是没有任何好处的
이순호 As a young voter, even if we did vote, it would still be less than the elderly and the government wouldn't change so much.
作为年轻选民,即使我们投了票,但我们的票数依然少于老年人,所以政府依然还是不会有太大的改变
I don't really remember the exact statistic but the majority of voters are over the age 60, so they obvious get polices pass that benefit them.
我不记得确切的统计数据,但大多数选民年龄都在60岁以上,所以显然老年人可以得到有利于自己的政策。
If all young japanese possitively went to vote, the ratio of the elderly easily could overwhelm 'em. so meaning less. that's all.
即便所有日本年轻人都去投票,但老年人的比例依然可以轻松压倒他们。所以没有什么意义,就是这样
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I noticed mostly young people were interviewed.
Most of the young interviewed mentioned there is generational conflict between the young and the old. The young interviewees perceived more policies favor the elderly. A conflict between generations will not help in solving the aging population phenomenon in Japan.
我注意到接受采访的大部分都是年轻人
大部分接受采访的年轻人都提到年轻人和老年人之间存在代际冲突。年轻受访者认为更多的政策都是有利于老年人。代际冲突无法解决日本人口老龄化问题。
As a Canadian, I find it fascinating that no one in the video mentioned increasing immigration into Japan.
作为加拿大人,我发现视频中没有人提到越来越多的的外来移民进入日本。
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I admire Japanese for having a long life!!
我羡慕日本人的长寿
Pretty sure that their government is vexed up with that tho.
我肯定他们的政府对此肯定很烦恼
Less working hours=more babies
更少的工作时间等于更多的孩子
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Obnoxious, but Consistent They don't want babies! This is what young people think
但他们至始至终都不想要孩子,这就是年轻人的想法
You can't put all young people in the same basket, some ofthem think that way, but not all...
你不能将所有年轻人都一概而论,有些年轻人是这么想的,但有些不是
It's not that they don't want babies, it''s that they already struggle to survive themselves, so adding another mouth to feed in their family it's having a harder life and for some people, they can't afford it.
并不是他们不想要孩子。而是他们自己生活都很艰难,所以在家里多养一个人会让他们的生活变得更加的困难,对于某些人来说,他们可能负担不起。
+ social services and maternity leave also
还要再加上社会服务和产假才行
Less working hours= less money, no babies.
更少的工作时间=更好的钱,没有孩子
Well.. according to them, having babies is a waste of time.
在他们看来,生孩子是浪费时间。
Then why arent Europeand having more children?
那么为什么欧洲人生的孩子也不多呢?
I heard about the aging population in japan before but I'm surprised by the state of the relationship between the young and the elderly, that seems to be an even bigger problem.
我之前就听说过日本的老龄化问题,但日本年轻人和老年人之间的关系让我感到很惊讶,这似乎是一个更大的问题。
I don't think it's more of an aging issue. I feel like the elderly haven't increased but rather a decrease in young people. Alot of young people (melanials) have decided to not have children
我认为这不是老龄化的问题,我觉得老年人的数量并没有增加,而是年轻人数量减少了,因为很多年轻人决定不生孩子
I see one big global issue: On the one hand we have the super rich industrial countries suffering from aging, mass immigration and a general unhealthy lifestyle (depression, social anxiety, burnout, stress etc.) and on the other the second and third world countries with mostly young people, suffering from poverty, pollution and crime...the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...and btw: replacing the young people by immigrants and robots sounds to me like a really strange kind of future (which won't be able to sustain any kind of cultural aspects in the long term anyway) sometimes I ask myself where this weird, confusing world situation should lead us to...
我觉得现在存在很严重的全球性问题,一方面,超级富裕的工业国在遭受老龄化,大规模外来移民和普遍不健康生活方式的折磨,另一方面第二和第三世界国家大多是年轻人居多,这些国家处于贫困之中,污染犯罪问题非常严重。富者越来越富,穷者越来越穷。顺便说一下,用外来移民和机器人取代年轻人的做法在我看来非常的奇怪,有时候,我会忍不住问我自己,这个怪异混乱的世界局势会把我们带往何方
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And thats not even accounting global warming and the environment
还有全球变暖和环境问题
This has been true for a very long time... In industrialized countries, you're encouraged to have fewer children so that they have better lives... Children are moneysucks in the developed world. Also, developed countries have better access to abortion, birth control, etc...
很长一段时间以来都是如此,在工业化国家,人们鼓励少生孩子,孩子少了,人们的生活质量就高了。在发达国家,孩子就是吞金巨兽。此外,发达国家在堕胎、节育等方面有更好的途径。
Anyway, every life comes with difficulties. In the first world, we have it pretty easy, though.
在第一世界的女性会在经济状况稳定之后才会决定要生孩子。这就是为什么在美国,工人阶级和贫困阶级的孩子会比中产阶级更多的原因,因为美国的中产阶级相当的不稳定
不管怎么样,每个人的生活都不容易。但在第一世界,我们的生活相对轻松一些。
that just makes elderly people having to compete with young people for the same jobs, not looking good for them.
这只会让老年人和年轻人一起竞争工作岗位,这对他们并不好
Letting the elderly work as long as they are still physically healthy is fine. But the problem is, it will significantly prevent young people from finding jobs and it therefore results in young people not being able to get married and have kids.
让老年人在身体健康的情况下继续工作是不错,但问题在于,这会对年轻人找工作造成严重影响,因此导致年轻人无法结婚生孩子
The only solution to declining Japanese economy will be elderly to work. And immigration.
解决日本经济衰退的唯一办法就是让老年人参加工作,还有就是鼓励移民
Really big isssue in Japan !
这是日本的一大问题。
Honestly worried about my home country and the "super elderly society" problem
老实说我真的很担心我们国家的超高龄社会问题。