网友讨论：中国CH-4无人机抵达巴基斯坦
CH-4 Chinese UCAV Arrives in Pakistan for Army
译文简介
巴基斯坦陆军订购的CH-4无人机系统上周终于抵达巴基斯坦，目前正运往哈内瓦尔的一个航空基地。
正文翻译
The UCAV System CH-4 ordered by Pakistan Army has finally arrived last week in Pakistan and currently in process of transportation to an aviation base in Khanewal presumably
巴基斯坦陆军订购的CH-4无人机系统上周终于抵达巴基斯坦，目前正运往哈内瓦尔的一个航空基地。
评论翻译
Kingslayerr
MaShaAllah congratulations guys. Now please use them in KPK and Balochistan.
祝贺大家。现在请把它们用在KPK省和卑路支省。
MaShaAllah congratulations guys. Now please use them in KPK and Balochistan.
祝贺大家。现在请把它们用在KPK省和卑路支省。
Inception-06
It’s about numbers and Production facility,PAC can’t offer such complex systems in high numbers, it will take time PAC can reach the industrial level of China.
数量和生产设施存在问题，PAC无法大量生产这种复杂的武器系统，要想达到中国那样的工业水平，PAC还需要时间。
It’s about numbers and Production facility,PAC can’t offer such complex systems in high numbers, it will take time PAC can reach the industrial level of China.
数量和生产设施存在问题，PAC无法大量生产这种复杂的武器系统，要想达到中国那样的工业水平，PAC还需要时间。
Sugarcane
What it will do Khanewal? Is the requirement in KP & Baluchistan not more critical?
它在Khanewal能有何作为？KP和卑路支省的需求不是更加关键吗？
What it will do Khanewal? Is the requirement in KP & Baluchistan not more critical?
它在Khanewal能有何作为？KP和卑路支省的需求不是更加关键吗？
hussain0216
It's not ready yet as far as I am aware
This is a capabilities shot in the arm in the meantime
据我所知，还没有就绪。
这件事对陆军而言是一剂强心针。
It's not ready yet as far as I am aware
This is a capabilities shot in the arm in the meantime
据我所知，还没有就绪。
这件事对陆军而言是一剂强心针。
Reichsmarschall
Is this deal separate from wing long deal?
这个采购案跟翼龙采购案不是同一个吧？
Is this deal separate from wing long deal?
这个采购案跟翼龙采购案不是同一个吧？
PAR 5
There is no Wing Lloong Deal. The only Wing Loong is operated by the ISI in Pakistan
并没有什么翼龙采购案。巴基斯坦唯一一架翼龙无人机由三军情报局操作。
There is no Wing Lloong Deal. The only Wing Loong is operated by the ISI in Pakistan
并没有什么翼龙采购案。巴基斯坦唯一一架翼龙无人机由三军情报局操作。
Reichsmarschall
amp.scmp.com
China, Pakistan to build 48 strike-capable Wing Loong II drones
China, Pakistan sign deal to build 48 strike-capable Wing Loong II drones
amp.scmp.com amp.scmp.com
“南华早报：中国巴基斯坦签署协议，拟制造48架具有攻击能力的翼龙2无人机”
amp.scmp.com
China, Pakistan to build 48 strike-capable Wing Loong II drones
China, Pakistan sign deal to build 48 strike-capable Wing Loong II drones
amp.scmp.com amp.scmp.com
“南华早报：中国巴基斯坦签署协议，拟制造48架具有攻击能力的翼龙2无人机”
PAR 5
Fake News Unfortunately
可惜是假新闻。
Fake News Unfortunately
可惜是假新闻。
Fighting Falcon 01
PAC UCAV is not ready for production yet...
PAC的无人战斗机还没有做好生产准备……
PAC UCAV is not ready for production yet...
PAC的无人战斗机还没有做好生产准备……
SD 10
Can anyone compare wing long 2 with CH 4? whats the difference?
谁来比较一下翼龙2和彩虹4？二者有何区别？
Can anyone compare wing long 2 with CH 4? whats the difference?
谁来比较一下翼龙2和彩虹4？二者有何区别？
Basel
Why CH-4 when CH-5 and WL-2 are available??
既然可以买CH-5和翼龙2，为什么要买CH-4？
Why CH-4 when CH-5 and WL-2 are available??
既然可以买CH-5和翼龙2，为什么要买CH-4？
The Eagle
A separate facility/base home having less of load for operational flying to operate smoothly. Just saying.
出自另一个厂家，且载荷较少，目的是令其运行更加顺畅。我随便说的。
A separate facility/base home having less of load for operational flying to operate smoothly. Just saying.
出自另一个厂家，且载荷较少，目的是令其运行更加顺畅。我随便说的。
Bilal Khan (Quwa)
Perhaps, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's also a result of siloed planning. The PN seems to have ordered CH-4s as well.
也许吧，但如果这也是孤立计划的结果，我也不会感到奇怪。巴基斯坦海军似乎也订购了CH-4。
Perhaps, but it wouldn't surprise me if it's also a result of siloed planning. The PN seems to have ordered CH-4s as well.
也许吧，但如果这也是孤立计划的结果，我也不会感到奇怪。巴基斯坦海军似乎也订购了CH-4。
TOPGUN
Mashallah great news.
棒极了。
Mashallah great news.
棒极了。
nomi007
I hope we will soon see Turkish drones but under TOT.
希望我们很快就能看到土耳其无人机，但是希望能得到技术转让。
I hope we will soon see Turkish drones but under TOT.
希望我们很快就能看到土耳其无人机，但是希望能得到技术转让。
Hakikat ve Hikmet
Roast the Indian Hindus’s slaves with these machines......
用这些机器把印度的印度教奴隶们炸飞天……
Roast the Indian Hindus’s slaves with these machines......
用这些机器把印度的印度教奴隶们炸飞天……
ziaulislam
Finally ....now where are our MRAPs
终于来了……现在我们的MRAP在哪里？
Finally ....now where are our MRAPs
终于来了……现在我们的MRAP在哪里？
Path-Finder
wasn't the Italian drone going to be armed too?
意大利的无人机不是也要装备武器吗？
wasn't the Italian drone going to be armed too?
意大利的无人机不是也要装备武器吗？
Basel
Why?? PAF was satisfied with that UAV and we had some ToT too.
为什么？巴基斯坦空军对那种无人机很满意，而且还能得到一些技术转让。
Why?? PAF was satisfied with that UAV and we had some ToT too.
为什么？巴基斯坦空军对那种无人机很满意，而且还能得到一些技术转让。
Imran Khan
so finally we can say we have real drones .
现在终于可以说我们拥有真正的无人机了。
so finally we can say we have real drones .
现在终于可以说我们拥有真正的无人机了。
HAIDER
Undisclosed number also ordered for CPEC security. Few site claim around 40.
为了中巴经济走廊的安全，他们也订购了数量不详的无人机。少数网站说大约有40架。
Undisclosed number also ordered for CPEC security. Few site claim around 40.
为了中巴经济走廊的安全，他们也订购了数量不详的无人机。少数网站说大约有40架。
HAIDER
That's how Nigeria flew armed drone ...one Pakistan has .. Burraq
But it worked against Bokoharm
尼日利亚就是这么使用武装无人机的……也就是巴基斯坦的Burraq无人机。
但它在对付博科圣地的时候挺管用。
That's how Nigeria flew armed drone ...one Pakistan has .. Burraq
But it worked against Bokoharm
尼日利亚就是这么使用武装无人机的……也就是巴基斯坦的Burraq无人机。
但它在对付博科圣地的时候挺管用。
koolio
It's about time Pakistan has got quality armed drones, they need to deployed urgently against Indian backed terrorists along the border with Afghanistan and Iran.
巴基斯坦是时候获得高质量的武装无人机了，迫切需要将它们部署到与阿富汗和伊朗边境，对付印度支持的恐怖分子。
It's about time Pakistan has got quality armed drones, they need to deployed urgently against Indian backed terrorists along the border with Afghanistan and Iran.
巴基斯坦是时候获得高质量的武装无人机了，迫切需要将它们部署到与阿富汗和伊朗边境，对付印度支持的恐怖分子。
Deino
the CH-4 is less capable.
That's indeed the most interesting part especially since it was already reported that Pakistan will get Wing Loong II UAVs.
CH-4性能较弱。
这确实是最有趣的地方，特别是已经有报道称巴基斯坦将会得到翼龙II无人机。
the CH-4 is less capable.
That's indeed the most interesting part especially since it was already reported that Pakistan will get Wing Loong II UAVs.
CH-4性能较弱。
这确实是最有趣的地方，特别是已经有报道称巴基斯坦将会得到翼龙II无人机。
Indos
That news source is Indian news.
那个新闻来源是个印度新闻。
That news source is Indian news.
那个新闻来源是个印度新闻。
Awan68
So these are for Army aviation, can these provide a stop gap for anti tank role until the army solves its attack heli dilemna?
所以这些是给陆军航空兵用的，在陆军解决攻击直升机的困境之前，这些无人机可以作为反坦克部队的权宜之计吗?
So these are for Army aviation, can these provide a stop gap for anti tank role until the army solves its attack heli dilemna?
所以这些是给陆军航空兵用的，在陆军解决攻击直升机的困境之前，这些无人机可以作为反坦克部队的权宜之计吗?
Indos
Predator drone use similar missile with Apache helicopter which is hellfire.
“捕食者”无人机与“地狱火”阿帕奇直升机使用了类似的导弹。
Predator drone use similar missile with Apache helicopter which is hellfire.
“捕食者”无人机与“地狱火”阿帕奇直升机使用了类似的导弹。
Awan68
These look like an army acquisition, the airforce has not bought a drone until now, maybe the PAC project is for a drone that can carry heavier payloads, more in suiting with the airforce's needs.
这些看起来像是陆军采购的，空军直到现在还没有购买无人机，也许PAC项目是为了推出一种可以携带更多有效载荷的无人机，更适合空军的需求。
These look like an army acquisition, the airforce has not bought a drone until now, maybe the PAC project is for a drone that can carry heavier payloads, more in suiting with the airforce's needs.
这些看起来像是陆军采购的，空军直到现在还没有购买无人机，也许PAC项目是为了推出一种可以携带更多有效载荷的无人机，更适合空军的需求。
siegecrossbow
Sir since both the CH-4 and WL-2 are geared for export, I think the stats should be available from airshows. That said I can get more accurate info from a direct Chinese source if you want me to.
既然CH-4和WL-2都是为出口准备的，我想航展上应该会有相关数据。也就是说，如果需要的话，我可以从直接的中国来源获得更准确的信息。
Sir since both the CH-4 and WL-2 are geared for export, I think the stats should be available from airshows. That said I can get more accurate info from a direct Chinese source if you want me to.
既然CH-4和WL-2都是为出口准备的，我想航展上应该会有相关数据。也就是说，如果需要的话，我可以从直接的中国来源获得更准确的信息。
Indos
I hope you can give us the Chinese source and hopefully from the company who made it.
Indonesian Aerospace always put the specs on the planes that they make.
https://www.indonesian-aerospace.com/aircraft/detail/11_n219+nurtanio
我希望你能给我们中国的来源，最好直接来自制造它的公司那里。
印尼航空航天公司总是在网站上公布他们制造的飞机的规格。
I hope you can give us the Chinese source and hopefully from the company who made it.
Indonesian Aerospace always put the specs on the planes that they make.
https://www.indonesian-aerospace.com/aircraft/detail/11_n219+nurtanio
我希望你能给我们中国的来源，最好直接来自制造它的公司那里。
印尼航空航天公司总是在网站上公布他们制造的飞机的规格。
Mrc
I think this is for army that one is for Airforce
我认为这种（CH-4）是给陆军的，而那种（翼龙2）是给空军的。
I think this is for army that one is for Airforce
我认为这种（CH-4）是给陆军的，而那种（翼龙2）是给空军的。
TsAr
Oh yes sir.......
是的……
Oh yes sir.......
是的……
xuxu1457
I think China will send a production line.
Americans must be very angry about this.What a moneymaker drones are before.But the Chinese sold it for the price of cabbage. The money is not easy to earn.
我想中国会给巴基斯坦一条生产线。
美国人肯定很生气。无人机以前是多么赚钱啊。但是中国人以白菜的价格卖掉了它。现在这钱不好挣了。
I think China will send a production line.
Americans must be very angry about this.What a moneymaker drones are before.But the Chinese sold it for the price of cabbage. The money is not easy to earn.
我想中国会给巴基斯坦一条生产线。
美国人肯定很生气。无人机以前是多么赚钱啊。但是中国人以白菜的价格卖掉了它。现在这钱不好挣了。
Caprxl
If you gentlemen are referring to MALE UAV, then it is still in Prototype mode as we already know, ground tests done, further/newer prototype about to be made incorporating feed back from the precious one. Being a totally indigenous effort (apart from engine I bet), it took time as @JamD & I discussed it before.
In my opinion, "The operational need & demand put pressure on already low UAV resource (at times caused precious mission obxtives to not being attained), which resulted in decision making form Higher ups to procure UAVs, as PAC MALE UAV was no where near production at the time & is still in prototype".
如果你们各位说的是中空长航时无人机，那么正如我们已经知道的，它仍处于原型模式，地面测试已经完成，进一步/更新的原型机，将采纳前一架带来的反馈进行制造。正如我曾与之讨论过的JamD所说，作为一架完全本土的无人机（我觉得发动机除外），它需要时间。
在我看来，“任务需要和要求给已经很少的无人机资源造成压力（有时导致宝贵的任务目标无法实现），所以高层决定采购无人机，而PAC的MAKE 无人机距离生产还很远，依然处于原型阶段”。
If you gentlemen are referring to MALE UAV, then it is still in Prototype mode as we already know, ground tests done, further/newer prototype about to be made incorporating feed back from the precious one. Being a totally indigenous effort (apart from engine I bet), it took time as @JamD & I discussed it before.
In my opinion, "The operational need & demand put pressure on already low UAV resource (at times caused precious mission obxtives to not being attained), which resulted in decision making form Higher ups to procure UAVs, as PAC MALE UAV was no where near production at the time & is still in prototype".
如果你们各位说的是中空长航时无人机，那么正如我们已经知道的，它仍处于原型模式，地面测试已经完成，进一步/更新的原型机，将采纳前一架带来的反馈进行制造。正如我曾与之讨论过的JamD所说，作为一架完全本土的无人机（我觉得发动机除外），它需要时间。
在我看来，“任务需要和要求给已经很少的无人机资源造成压力（有时导致宝贵的任务目标无法实现），所以高层决定采购无人机，而PAC的MAKE 无人机距离生产还很远，依然处于原型阶段”。
mingle
Whole Western border needs UCAVs not jetts
整个西部边境需要无人机，而不是喷气式战斗机。
Whole Western border needs UCAVs not jetts
整个西部边境需要无人机，而不是喷气式战斗机。
siegecrossbow
I don't think that this is fair. Performance is one metric but so is cost.
我觉得这种说法不公平。性能是一方面，成本也是很重要。
I don't think that this is fair. Performance is one metric but so is cost.
我觉得这种说法不公平。性能是一方面，成本也是很重要。
TheSnakeEatingMarkhur
A lot of faith in them but these will play the role of middle tier UCAVs bridging the gap between small UCAVs we have and MALE UCAV we are developing..
但我对它们很有信心，他们会扮演中档无人机的角色，以弥补我们现有的小型无人战机和我们正在开发的MALE无人机之间的空白……
A lot of faith in them but these will play the role of middle tier UCAVs bridging the gap between small UCAVs we have and MALE UCAV we are developing..
但我对它们很有信心，他们会扮演中档无人机的角色，以弥补我们现有的小型无人战机和我们正在开发的MALE无人机之间的空白……
retaxis
China is busy making GJ-11 stealth drones at the moment.
en.wikipedia.org
Hongdu GJ-11 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
现在中国正忙着制造GJ-11隐形无人机。
China is busy making GJ-11 stealth drones at the moment.
en.wikipedia.org
Hongdu GJ-11 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
现在中国正忙着制造GJ-11隐形无人机。
TheSnakeEatingMarkhur
Why not use Falcos which on this thread is being claimed not used... you have TOT so make em here.. ??
为什么不用Falcos呢，这个帖子有人说没有使用……既然有技术转让，为什么不在国内生产呢？
Why not use Falcos which on this thread is being claimed not used... you have TOT so make em here.. ??
为什么不用Falcos呢，这个帖子有人说没有使用……既然有技术转让，为什么不在国内生产呢？
TheSnakeEatingMarkhur
These are cool but simple to make not complex at all bahi..
这些很酷，但很容易制造，一点都不复杂。
These are cool but simple to make not complex at all bahi..
这些很酷，但很容易制造，一点都不复杂。
TheSnakeEatingMarkhur
Source under your post says CH4 is better...
你帖子下面的来源说CH4比较好……
Source under your post says CH4 is better...
你帖子下面的来源说CH4比较好……
JamD
I just hope that eventually that the needs of all armed forces are fulfilled by the local product. If it isn't then what even is the point.
If anything the PAC UCAV is slightly smaller than the CH4. Both are essentially the same class of UCAV. So this is fulfilling of an urgent need and/or siloed planning.
我只希望最终所有武装部队的需求都能由本国产品满足。如果做不到，那还有什么意义。
如果有什么不同的话，PAC的无人战斗机比CH4略小。两者本质上都是同一类无人机。因此，这次采购是为了满足迫切需要和/或孤立计划。
I just hope that eventually that the needs of all armed forces are fulfilled by the local product. If it isn't then what even is the point.
If anything the PAC UCAV is slightly smaller than the CH4. Both are essentially the same class of UCAV. So this is fulfilling of an urgent need and/or siloed planning.
我只希望最终所有武装部队的需求都能由本国产品满足。如果做不到，那还有什么意义。
如果有什么不同的话，PAC的无人战斗机比CH4略小。两者本质上都是同一类无人机。因此，这次采购是为了满足迫切需要和/或孤立计划。
waz
Soon the savages killing innocents in Baluchistan will have a reason to fear the skies.
Hopefully we will see the end of attacks on convoys, FC posts, road etc. They have to come out in the open which are far away from mountain hideouts, and they also use the road network. They should be easy pickings for the drones.
很快，在俾路支省杀害无辜者的野蛮人将有理由害怕天空。
希望这些无人机能够阻止敌人对车队、FC哨所、道路等的袭击。敌人都在远离山区藏身处的开阔地带出没，他们也会利用公路网。无人机应该很容易盯上他们。
Soon the savages killing innocents in Baluchistan will have a reason to fear the skies.
Hopefully we will see the end of attacks on convoys, FC posts, road etc. They have to come out in the open which are far away from mountain hideouts, and they also use the road network. They should be easy pickings for the drones.
很快，在俾路支省杀害无辜者的野蛮人将有理由害怕天空。
希望这些无人机能够阻止敌人对车队、FC哨所、道路等的袭击。敌人都在远离山区藏身处的开阔地带出没，他们也会利用公路网。无人机应该很容易盯上他们。
aziqbal
Great this can also hit moving targets?
棒极了，这种无人机也能打击移动目标？
Great this can also hit moving targets?
棒极了，这种无人机也能打击移动目标？
siegecrossbow
I think that's a basic prerequisite for UCAVs at this point.
我认为这是当今无人战斗机的基本能力。
I think that's a basic prerequisite for UCAVs at this point.
我认为这是当今无人战斗机的基本能力。
TheSnakeEatingMarkhur
People in planning division know better bro.. I think it is siloed... as MALE UAV will take some time..
策划部的人知道的更清楚……我觉得这是孤立计划……因为MALE无人机还需要时间。
People in planning division know better bro.. I think it is siloed... as MALE UAV will take some time..
策划部的人知道的更清楚……我觉得这是孤立计划……因为MALE无人机还需要时间。
RAMPAGE
And you think that would bring peace to Balochistan? The answer to Baloch insurgency is an armed drone. Wah!
你觉得这样就能给俾路支省带来和平吗?对付俾路支叛乱的解决办法是一架武装无人机。哇!
And you think that would bring peace to Balochistan? The answer to Baloch insurgency is an armed drone. Wah!
你觉得这样就能给俾路支省带来和平吗?对付俾路支叛乱的解决办法是一架武装无人机。哇!
HAIDER
May be those are special plane connected with Chinese datalix , which provide constant security feed of major routes.
也许这些是特殊的飞机，链接上了中国数据链，可以持续为重要路线提供安全保障。
May be those are special plane connected with Chinese datalix , which provide constant security feed of major routes.
也许这些是特殊的飞机，链接上了中国数据链，可以持续为重要路线提供安全保障。
Awan68
The answer to Baloch insurgency is the promise of fire from hell itself to anyone who commits treason against the state.
对卑路支省叛乱的回应，是让任何背叛国家的人下地狱。
The answer to Baloch insurgency is the promise of fire from hell itself to anyone who commits treason against the state.
对卑路支省叛乱的回应，是让任何背叛国家的人下地狱。
waz
Who said it was, wah! At making generalisations.
At this point you have foreign backed milita taking pot shots at the military, and if that wasn't bad enough killing non-Baluch Pakistanis whenever they like, what do you propose should be done about them?
谁这么说了，哇！你太一概而论了。
现在，外国势力支持的民兵组织对军队随意开枪，更糟糕的是，他们还肆意杀害非卑路支省的巴基斯坦人，你觉得应该如何对付他们？
Who said it was, wah! At making generalisations.
At this point you have foreign backed milita taking pot shots at the military, and if that wasn't bad enough killing non-Baluch Pakistanis whenever they like, what do you propose should be done about them?
谁这么说了，哇！你太一概而论了。
现在，外国势力支持的民兵组织对军队随意开枪，更糟糕的是，他们还肆意杀害非卑路支省的巴基斯坦人，你觉得应该如何对付他们？
KaiserX
48 CH-4s are just the initial order... deal was actually signed a few years ago. This is in addition to the domestic Buraq that is in production and in use with the army for over a decade now.
en.wikipedia.org
NESCOM Burraq - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
The Ch-4s are longer range and more payload in comparison to the Burraq. They will provide immense capability especially in such large numbers. I expect the Pakistani military to also focus on a co-production with Turkey (Burraq 2?), word is Pakistani military officers are greatly impressed and interested in Turkish drones as well due to their success in the recent azeri conflict.
In the medium term (5-10) years I would not be surprised if Pakistans UCAV fleet easily surpasses 200+ systems and becomes amongst the worlds largest and most advance. Critical technologies and systems will have to be procured from key partners such as China and Turkey. I expect these 2 countries to become Pakistans largest defence partners.
Pakistan UCAV fleet currently:
- 50 Burraq (expect total production to be 100+)
-19 CH-4s (30 more on order. Expect follow up orders of CH-5)
- 50 Turkish MALE drones (More than likely)
48架CH-4只是首批订单……协议实际上几年前就签署了。它是对国产的Buraq无人机的补充，后者正在制造，而且军队已经使用了十多年。
CH-4比Burraq航程更远，有效载荷更多。它们将带来巨大的能力，特别是在数量如此庞大的情况下。我预计巴基斯坦军方也会专注于与土耳其合作(Burraq 2?）由于土耳其无人机在最近的阿塞拜疆冲突中取得的成功，巴基斯坦军官对土耳其无人机印象深刻，也很感兴趣。
在中期(5-10)年内，如果巴基斯坦的无人机系统数量，轻而易举地超过200多，并成为世界上最大、最先进的无人机国家之一，我不会感到惊讶。我们必须从中国和土耳其等关键合作伙伴那里采购关键技术和系统。我希望这两个国家成为巴基斯坦最大的国防合作伙伴。
巴基斯坦的无人机部队目前有:
——50架Burraq(期望总产量达到100+)
——19架CH-4(另外还有30架订单。期待后续的CH-5订单)
——50架土耳其中空长航时无人机(很有可能)
48 CH-4s are just the initial order... deal was actually signed a few years ago. This is in addition to the domestic Buraq that is in production and in use with the army for over a decade now.
en.wikipedia.org
NESCOM Burraq - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
The Ch-4s are longer range and more payload in comparison to the Burraq. They will provide immense capability especially in such large numbers. I expect the Pakistani military to also focus on a co-production with Turkey (Burraq 2?), word is Pakistani military officers are greatly impressed and interested in Turkish drones as well due to their success in the recent azeri conflict.
In the medium term (5-10) years I would not be surprised if Pakistans UCAV fleet easily surpasses 200+ systems and becomes amongst the worlds largest and most advance. Critical technologies and systems will have to be procured from key partners such as China and Turkey. I expect these 2 countries to become Pakistans largest defence partners.
Pakistan UCAV fleet currently:
- 50 Burraq (expect total production to be 100+)
-19 CH-4s (30 more on order. Expect follow up orders of CH-5)
- 50 Turkish MALE drones (More than likely)
48架CH-4只是首批订单……协议实际上几年前就签署了。它是对国产的Buraq无人机的补充，后者正在制造，而且军队已经使用了十多年。
CH-4比Burraq航程更远，有效载荷更多。它们将带来巨大的能力，特别是在数量如此庞大的情况下。我预计巴基斯坦军方也会专注于与土耳其合作(Burraq 2?）由于土耳其无人机在最近的阿塞拜疆冲突中取得的成功，巴基斯坦军官对土耳其无人机印象深刻，也很感兴趣。
在中期(5-10)年内，如果巴基斯坦的无人机系统数量，轻而易举地超过200多，并成为世界上最大、最先进的无人机国家之一，我不会感到惊讶。我们必须从中国和土耳其等关键合作伙伴那里采购关键技术和系统。我希望这两个国家成为巴基斯坦最大的国防合作伙伴。
巴基斯坦的无人机部队目前有:
——50架Burraq(期望总产量达到100+)
——19架CH-4(另外还有30架订单。期待后续的CH-5订单)
——50架土耳其中空长航时无人机(很有可能)
The CH-4s do not provide the Pakistani military with any new capability vis via Balochistan/FATA. Pakistan has used the Burraq to conduct domestic drone strikes since 2009. We could have used Burraq drones to decimate BLA/TTP terrorist many years ago. Why do you think even the US calls our generals lazy?
Yeah sure a single CH-4 might be able to do the job of 2-3 Burraqs but have we even used 2-3 burraqs against terrorist in balochistan/afghanistan/iran ? answer is NOOOO.
hell our civilians are being bombed daily in kashmir and we havnt annihalated even 1 indian 155mm gun using a drone strike?
You know why our fat arse generals send soldiers in pick up trucks without any body armor, night vision, or basic gear to fight terrorist equipped to the teethe? Because they dont wanna spend a few extra thousand to use a missile to kill these bastards... they wanna save that $$$ for the luxury plots they wanna get or the fees they wanna pay for their kids at harvard...
There is a lack of political will. Even 100+ CH-4s/Predators/Etc... will not change anything without strong political will to annihalate terrorist foreign and domestic.
CH-4并没有在卑路支省/FATA省给巴基斯坦军方提供任何新的能力。巴基斯坦自从2009年就采用Burraq无人机执行国内无人机打击。很多年前，我们就可以用Burraq无人机摧毁BLA/TTP恐怖分子了。你认为为什么连美国都说我们的将军懒惰?
是的，一架CH-4也许可以完成2-3架burraq的任务，但我们有没有使用2-3架burraq来对付俾路支省、阿富汗和伊朗的恐怖分子?答案是没有。
该死的，我们的平民每天都在克什米尔遭到轰炸，而我们却没有用无人机打击消灭一门印度的155mm炮？
那些脑满肠肥的将军把士兵派上上皮卡车，却没有给他们装备任何防弹衣、夜视仪，或者用于打击恐怖分子的其他基本装备，你知道为什么吗?因为他们不想多花几千美元用导弹杀死这些混蛋……他们想把这些钱省下来，去购买他们想要的豪宅，或者去给他们在哈佛的孩子交学费……
问题在于缺乏政治意愿。即使我们有100多架CH-4/捕食者/其他无人机……如果没有消灭国内外恐怖分子的强大政治意愿，什么都不会改变。
Yeah sure a single CH-4 might be able to do the job of 2-3 Burraqs but have we even used 2-3 burraqs against terrorist in balochistan/afghanistan/iran ? answer is NOOOO.
hell our civilians are being bombed daily in kashmir and we havnt annihalated even 1 indian 155mm gun using a drone strike?
You know why our fat arse generals send soldiers in pick up trucks without any body armor, night vision, or basic gear to fight terrorist equipped to the teethe? Because they dont wanna spend a few extra thousand to use a missile to kill these bastards... they wanna save that $$$ for the luxury plots they wanna get or the fees they wanna pay for their kids at harvard...
There is a lack of political will. Even 100+ CH-4s/Predators/Etc... will not change anything without strong political will to annihalate terrorist foreign and domestic.
CH-4并没有在卑路支省/FATA省给巴基斯坦军方提供任何新的能力。巴基斯坦自从2009年就采用Burraq无人机执行国内无人机打击。很多年前，我们就可以用Burraq无人机摧毁BLA/TTP恐怖分子了。你认为为什么连美国都说我们的将军懒惰?
是的，一架CH-4也许可以完成2-3架burraq的任务，但我们有没有使用2-3架burraq来对付俾路支省、阿富汗和伊朗的恐怖分子?答案是没有。
该死的，我们的平民每天都在克什米尔遭到轰炸，而我们却没有用无人机打击消灭一门印度的155mm炮？
那些脑满肠肥的将军把士兵派上上皮卡车，却没有给他们装备任何防弹衣、夜视仪，或者用于打击恐怖分子的其他基本装备，你知道为什么吗?因为他们不想多花几千美元用导弹杀死这些混蛋……他们想把这些钱省下来，去购买他们想要的豪宅，或者去给他们在哈佛的孩子交学费……
问题在于缺乏政治意愿。即使我们有100多架CH-4/捕食者/其他无人机……如果没有消灭国内外恐怖分子的强大政治意愿，什么都不会改变。
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