亚洲哪个民族或文化最先出现？中国，日本，还是朝鲜人？
Which Asian ethnicity or culture came first? Chinese, Japanese, or Korean?
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中国，日本，还是朝鲜人？谁的文化最先开始出现
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Which Asian ethnicity or culture came first? Chinese, Japanese, or Korean?
亚洲哪个民族或文化最先出现？中国，日本，还是朝鲜人？
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Andrew Lee, Doctor of Acupuncture针灸医生
Japan opened its doors in the 1600s, China in the 1700s, and central Asia west of Mongolia mixed with Caucasians and middle eastern people for centuries. And later all of central Asia, Mongolia included opened up to the Soviet unx. Korea closed its doors to Japan in the 1500s due to the imjin war, and rejected the west after seeing the ruin it caused both China and Japan.
日本在17世纪打开国门，中国则在18世纪，蒙古以西的中亚地区与白种人和中东人民混居在一起已有数百年历史。后来包括蒙古在内的所有中亚国家都向苏联开放。朝鲜在15世纪由于壬辰倭乱而关闭了对日本的大门，并在看到由中国和日本造成的破坏后拒绝了西方。
日本在17世纪打开国门，中国则在18世纪，蒙古以西的中亚地区与白种人和中东人民混居在一起已有数百年历史。后来包括蒙古在内的所有中亚国家都向苏联开放。朝鲜在15世纪由于壬辰倭乱而关闭了对日本的大门，并在看到由中国和日本造成的破坏后拒绝了西方。
China also isn''t a country, it''s a geographic location. China means middle kingdom. Anyone who lives or conquered the location was taken into Chinese history because of this fact. This people from Korea, Tibet, Mongolia etc. If they took over and had a dynasty or state in China, China called those people, Chinese. Thus to state “Chinese culture is oldest" is like saying “the assimilated culture of Asia in the most central location where all of the Asians had to pass through in order to travel to other places, is the oldest and most advanced"
Makes it kinda a “duhh" statement. A Han Chinese person who''s family lives and always lived in northern China is far far more genetically similar to a mongolian or korean, than another Han Chinese man from southern China. Ethnicity in Asia has been blended with nationality for a long time. Due to arguments about agriculture. Great wall was about the transition from nomadic to agricultural society. Some didn''t appreciate the switch.
中国也可以说不是一个国家，而是一个地理位置。中国的意思是中央王国。任何一个居住或征服过这个地方的人都因为这个事实而被带入中国历史。这些来自朝鲜、西藏、蒙古等地的人，如果他们接管了中国并在中国建立了一个王朝或国家，中国就称这些人为中国人。因此，说“中国文化最古老”就好比说“所有亚洲人去其他地方都要必须经过一个最中心的位置，在这个地方所产生的被同化的亚洲文化是最古老和最先进的。”
这有点像“废话”的说法。一个生活在中国北方的汉族人，与来自中国南方的另一个汉族人相比，他在基因上与蒙古人或朝鲜人更为相近。长期以来，亚洲的民族与民族混为一谈。由于有关农业的争论。长城与游牧社会向农业社会的过渡有关。有些人不喜欢这个转变。
Hua Ailin, IR expert, thesis on China''s shifting intl. strategy国际关系专家，论文是关于中国国际战略转变
Makes it kinda a “duhh" statement. A Han Chinese person who''s family lives and always lived in northern China is far far more genetically similar to a mongolian or korean, than another Han Chinese man from southern China. Ethnicity in Asia has been blended with nationality for a long time. Due to arguments about agriculture. Great wall was about the transition from nomadic to agricultural society. Some didn''t appreciate the switch.
中国也可以说不是一个国家，而是一个地理位置。中国的意思是中央王国。任何一个居住或征服过这个地方的人都因为这个事实而被带入中国历史。这些来自朝鲜、西藏、蒙古等地的人，如果他们接管了中国并在中国建立了一个王朝或国家，中国就称这些人为中国人。因此，说“中国文化最古老”就好比说“所有亚洲人去其他地方都要必须经过一个最中心的位置，在这个地方所产生的被同化的亚洲文化是最古老和最先进的。”
这有点像“废话”的说法。一个生活在中国北方的汉族人，与来自中国南方的另一个汉族人相比，他在基因上与蒙古人或朝鲜人更为相近。长期以来，亚洲的民族与民族混为一谈。由于有关农业的争论。长城与游牧社会向农业社会的过渡有关。有些人不喜欢这个转变。
Hua Ailin, IR expert, thesis on China''s shifting intl. strategy国际关系专家，论文是关于中国国际战略转变
First of all, Chinese is not actually an ethnicity. China comprises 66 officially recognized ethnic groups.
If you go back to historical evidence, then the oldest traces among the three of civilization can be found in what is now politically China. And it is Han Chinese. I’m not familiar with exact dates or geographies of the others, but I know we generally learned that Korea and Japan were later, with Japan being the latest. However, all of these cultures are pretty old as it is.
To simplify things without getting lengthy, there were two main known mass migrations occurring in this region. One was from the South West going upward through South East Asia and into central China, the other was going Westward and then downward and those became the Manchurian and Mongol type tribes and groups which eventually bled into what is now Korea and eventually Japan.
Of course, due to each country’s long history and other factors such as politics, each group is mixed with others to a certain extent.
When a civilization is as old as 6,000 or even 2,000 years, you’ll learn it’s very hard to measure when that civilization actually began coming at it from a modern perspective. The definition for what a civilization was get’s so blurred and changes over time.
首先，汉族实际上不是一个民族。中国有66个正式承认的民族（译者注：实际为56个）。
回顾历史，三种文明在政治上最古老的痕迹可以在现在的中国找到。这就是中国的汉朝。我不知道其他国家的确切时期或地理位置，但我们通常都了解，朝鲜和日本的痕迹是相对中国较晚的，日本又是最晚的。但是，其实所有这些文化都很古老。
简单说，在这个地区发生了两次已知的大规模迁移。一次是从西南向上，穿过东南亚进入中国中部，另一个是向西然后向下迁移，形成了满洲和蒙古式的部落和族群，最终渗入了现在的朝鲜，最后渗入了日本。
当然，由于各国历史悠久，加上政治等因素，每个群体在一定程度上是相互融合的。
当一个文明有6000年甚至只有2000年的历史时，你会发现很难从现代的角度去衡量这个文明由何时真正开始。关于文明的定义非常模糊，而且是随着时间的推移而变化。
Alex Chen, Born and raised in China; currently a PhD student in University of Liverpool在中国出生和长大； 目前在利物浦大学攻读博士学位
If you go back to historical evidence, then the oldest traces among the three of civilization can be found in what is now politically China. And it is Han Chinese. I’m not familiar with exact dates or geographies of the others, but I know we generally learned that Korea and Japan were later, with Japan being the latest. However, all of these cultures are pretty old as it is.
To simplify things without getting lengthy, there were two main known mass migrations occurring in this region. One was from the South West going upward through South East Asia and into central China, the other was going Westward and then downward and those became the Manchurian and Mongol type tribes and groups which eventually bled into what is now Korea and eventually Japan.
Of course, due to each country’s long history and other factors such as politics, each group is mixed with others to a certain extent.
When a civilization is as old as 6,000 or even 2,000 years, you’ll learn it’s very hard to measure when that civilization actually began coming at it from a modern perspective. The definition for what a civilization was get’s so blurred and changes over time.
首先，汉族实际上不是一个民族。中国有66个正式承认的民族（译者注：实际为56个）。
回顾历史，三种文明在政治上最古老的痕迹可以在现在的中国找到。这就是中国的汉朝。我不知道其他国家的确切时期或地理位置，但我们通常都了解，朝鲜和日本的痕迹是相对中国较晚的，日本又是最晚的。但是，其实所有这些文化都很古老。
简单说，在这个地区发生了两次已知的大规模迁移。一次是从西南向上，穿过东南亚进入中国中部，另一个是向西然后向下迁移，形成了满洲和蒙古式的部落和族群，最终渗入了现在的朝鲜，最后渗入了日本。
当然，由于各国历史悠久，加上政治等因素，每个群体在一定程度上是相互融合的。
当一个文明有6000年甚至只有2000年的历史时，你会发现很难从现代的角度去衡量这个文明由何时真正开始。关于文明的定义非常模糊，而且是随着时间的推移而变化。
Alex Chen, Born and raised in China; currently a PhD student in University of Liverpool在中国出生和长大； 目前在利物浦大学攻读博士学位
In the beginning there were the Han people (now seen as "Chinese" people) coming up from the Tibetan plateau to the Yellow River basin, and the people on the Korean peninsula (proto-Koreans & proto-Japanese). The Han people were the first to develop a nation state concept, based on their ability to write and pre-confucian concepts of order. From this proto-nation many of the neighboring tribes were culturaly influenced. With the influencing/borrowing peaking during the Tang dynasty. After and during the Tang the Koreans and the Japanese having incorporated many aspects of the Chinese culture (no longer only Han culture) they went on to develop their own unique cultures.
一开始有汉人（现在被视为“中国人”）从青藏高原来到黄河流域，还有朝鲜半岛的人（原始朝鲜人和原始日本人）。汉民族是最早形成国家观念的民族，其基础是他们的文字能力和“独尊儒术”的秩序观念。许多邻近部落都受到了来自该民族文化的影响。其唐代的影响力和被借鉴程度达到了顶峰。唐朝时期以及唐朝以后，朝鲜人和日本人吸收了中国文化的许多方面（不仅仅是汉文化），在此基础上他们继续发展自己的独特文化。
一开始有汉人（现在被视为“中国人”）从青藏高原来到黄河流域，还有朝鲜半岛的人（原始朝鲜人和原始日本人）。汉民族是最早形成国家观念的民族，其基础是他们的文字能力和“独尊儒术”的秩序观念。许多邻近部落都受到了来自该民族文化的影响。其唐代的影响力和被借鉴程度达到了顶峰。唐朝时期以及唐朝以后，朝鲜人和日本人吸收了中国文化的许多方面（不仅仅是汉文化），在此基础上他们继续发展自己的独特文化。
China. Or more like, tribes that formed smaller countries inside of the territory of today’s China. Then they spread their influence to Japan and Korea. That’s why in both Korea and Japan basic writing was chinese hanzi. And then later, Japan and Korea developed their own writing systems. Most of Korean and Japanese cuisine originates from chinese dishes. Same goes for spread of buddhism (started in China and later was brought to Korea and Japan as a religion for noble people). You will find that in their clothing, architecture, etc. Of course later with time as those countries relationship started to change, they slowly developed their own style.
中国。或者更可能是在今天的中国境内形成较小国家的部落。后来他们将影响力传播到了日本和朝鲜。这就是为什么朝鲜和日本的基本文字都是汉字。后来，日本和朝鲜发展了自己的书写系统。朝鲜和日本的料理大多源自中国料理。佛教的传播也是如此（始于中国，后来作为贵族的宗教传入朝鲜和日本）。从他们的服装、建筑等方面都可以发现这一点，当然后来随着时间的推移，这些国家的关系开始发生变化，他们慢慢形成了自己的风格。
Guo Wei, writing & living in China在中国写作和生活
中国。或者更可能是在今天的中国境内形成较小国家的部落。后来他们将影响力传播到了日本和朝鲜。这就是为什么朝鲜和日本的基本文字都是汉字。后来，日本和朝鲜发展了自己的书写系统。朝鲜和日本的料理大多源自中国料理。佛教的传播也是如此（始于中国，后来作为贵族的宗教传入朝鲜和日本）。从他们的服装、建筑等方面都可以发现这一点，当然后来随着时间的推移，这些国家的关系开始发生变化，他们慢慢形成了自己的风格。
Guo Wei, writing & living in China在中国写作和生活
Let me give a wild guess here. My answer is Japanese came first among the three cultures.
Why? Just take a look at the map! If homo sapiens entered East Asia from the southwest or the south, definitely they would first occupy the best areas of the land, i.e. what is now China. There would be no reasons for them to migrate to places like Korea, a cold mountainous country or even Japan, an island. Ancient Koreans or Japanese must have lived in the mainland Asia but were driven out of their homes by the latecomers.
Therefore, Japanese culture must have come first because Japan is the end point of a migration route in East Asia. Behind Japan there is no way to go unless they would like to develop a culture over the sea, which is unlikely.
让我在这给出一个疯狂的猜测。我的回答是，在这三种文化中，日本是最早的。
为什么？看看地图就行了！如果智人从西南或南部进入东亚，他们肯定会首先占领这块土地上最好的地区，即现在的中国。他们没有理由迁移到像朝鲜这样一个寒冷的山地国家，甚至日本这样的岛屿。古代的朝鲜人或日本人一定生活在亚洲大陆，但被后来者赶出了家门。
因此，日本文化一定是最早的的，因为日本是东亚移民路线的终点。在日本身后，除非他们想发展一种海上文化，否则没有出路，所以这是不可能的。
Ajax Ke, lives in Singapore生活在新加坡
Why? Just take a look at the map! If homo sapiens entered East Asia from the southwest or the south, definitely they would first occupy the best areas of the land, i.e. what is now China. There would be no reasons for them to migrate to places like Korea, a cold mountainous country or even Japan, an island. Ancient Koreans or Japanese must have lived in the mainland Asia but were driven out of their homes by the latecomers.
Therefore, Japanese culture must have come first because Japan is the end point of a migration route in East Asia. Behind Japan there is no way to go unless they would like to develop a culture over the sea, which is unlikely.
让我在这给出一个疯狂的猜测。我的回答是，在这三种文化中，日本是最早的。
为什么？看看地图就行了！如果智人从西南或南部进入东亚，他们肯定会首先占领这块土地上最好的地区，即现在的中国。他们没有理由迁移到像朝鲜这样一个寒冷的山地国家，甚至日本这样的岛屿。古代的朝鲜人或日本人一定生活在亚洲大陆，但被后来者赶出了家门。
因此，日本文化一定是最早的的，因为日本是东亚移民路线的终点。在日本身后，除非他们想发展一种海上文化，否则没有出路，所以这是不可能的。
Ajax Ke, lives in Singapore生活在新加坡
As there are still ongoing archaeological digs in China, Korea and Japan, it''s very hard to answer this question and not fair to say who comes first. It will be albeit to jumping to conclusion when we do not have all the puzzle pieces.
All 3 countries seemed to have develop their own culture independently around the same time in the Neolithic period. They developed their own crafts, tools, agriculture and pottery wares.
In addition, they devised their own socio-political systems to govern themselves.
It''s of course through trade that sometimes these cultures influenced each other.
Who came first? At this moment, too early to tell. So go support your country''s own archaeologists.
由于中国，朝鲜和日本仍在进行考古挖掘，因此很难回答这个问题，而且很难说谁是最早的。当我们没有所有的拼图碎片时，这将是一个跳跃式的结论。
在新石器时代，这三个国家似乎都在各自独立地发展自己的文化。 他们开发了自己的手工艺品，工具，农业和陶器。
此外，他们设计了自己的社会政治制度来管理自己。
当然，有时这些文化是通过贸易相互影响的。
谁是最早的？ 此刻下结论还为时过早。 因此，去支持你自己国家的考古学家吧。
Terry LLoyd, Aviation航空业
All 3 countries seemed to have develop their own culture independently around the same time in the Neolithic period. They developed their own crafts, tools, agriculture and pottery wares.
In addition, they devised their own socio-political systems to govern themselves.
It''s of course through trade that sometimes these cultures influenced each other.
Who came first? At this moment, too early to tell. So go support your country''s own archaeologists.
由于中国，朝鲜和日本仍在进行考古挖掘，因此很难回答这个问题，而且很难说谁是最早的。当我们没有所有的拼图碎片时，这将是一个跳跃式的结论。
在新石器时代，这三个国家似乎都在各自独立地发展自己的文化。 他们开发了自己的手工艺品，工具，农业和陶器。
此外，他们设计了自己的社会政治制度来管理自己。
当然，有时这些文化是通过贸易相互影响的。
谁是最早的？ 此刻下结论还为时过早。 因此，去支持你自己国家的考古学家吧。
Terry LLoyd, Aviation航空业
Although I am not Asian, I lived in Korea for four years. It is my understanding that there is a Chinese "base " culture that stayed with the outflow of civilization from early China through out Asia. In other words, people in modern China and from Burma around to Japan have a common, sheared culture. This is opposite to the many ethnic groups that emerged concurrently in Europe ( Celtic, Gemanic, Greek, Latin, etc.)
虽然我不是亚洲人，但我在朝鲜住了四年。据我所知，有一种中国的“基础”文化，伴随着文明从早期的中国扩散到整个亚洲。换言之，现代中国以及从缅甸到日本的人们，都有一种共同的、被割裂的文化。这与欧洲同时出现的许多民族（凯尔特人、日耳曼人、希腊语、拉丁语等）相反。
Richard Soon, former Mentor at Udacity (2016-2018)前优达学城导师
虽然我不是亚洲人，但我在朝鲜住了四年。据我所知，有一种中国的“基础”文化，伴随着文明从早期的中国扩散到整个亚洲。换言之，现代中国以及从缅甸到日本的人们，都有一种共同的、被割裂的文化。这与欧洲同时出现的许多民族（凯尔特人、日耳曼人、希腊语、拉丁语等）相反。
Richard Soon, former Mentor at Udacity (2016-2018)前优达学城导师
Chinese cuture came first, then Korean and Japanese developed their own unique cultures by assimilating Chinese culture.
最早的是中国文化，然后是朝鲜人和日本人通过吸收中国文化发展出自己独特的文化。
Gloria Hu, Only a student只是一个学生
最早的是中国文化，然后是朝鲜人和日本人通过吸收中国文化发展出自己独特的文化。
Gloria Hu, Only a student只是一个学生
Facing that embarrassed problem,as a Chinese,I must stand in obxtive way.Anyhow,I think Chinese culture first come.The key is in wordage.No matter Japanese or Korean words ,they all can be traced back to Chinese words which was found by Cangjie according to historical story.Many people might find that some Japanese words are familiar to Chinese,So I think Chinese culture come early.
面对这个尴尬的问题，作为一个中国人，我必须站在客观的立场上。不管怎样，我认为中国文化是最早的。关键是在文字上。无论是日本还是朝鲜的文字，都可以追溯到中国文字，根据历史故事汉字是由仓颉发明的。很多人可能会发现中国人对某些日语单词很熟悉，所以我认为中国文化更早。
Rachel Lai-Smith, studied at University of Waterloo就读于滑铁卢大学
面对这个尴尬的问题，作为一个中国人，我必须站在客观的立场上。不管怎样，我认为中国文化是最早的。关键是在文字上。无论是日本还是朝鲜的文字，都可以追溯到中国文字，根据历史故事汉字是由仓颉发明的。很多人可能会发现中国人对某些日语单词很熟悉，所以我认为中国文化更早。
Rachel Lai-Smith, studied at University of Waterloo就读于滑铁卢大学
Cultures including language and forms of writing existed long before the ethnicity you labelled existed.
That would be millions of years ago.
The better question is, which is the most widely known culture to have existed first from a certain region? Let say Asia?
I would say the Yellow River civilization (China) and Dravidian Civilization (South India).
The Koreans and Japanese are later tribes of peoples who arrived near the Chinese civilization through migration and invasions that settled near them, who then imported ideas, cultures and technologies from the Chinese Yellow River Civilization.
包括语言和书写形式在内的文化早在你所说的种族存在之前就已经存在了。
那是几百万年前的事了。
更好的问题是，从某个地区最早出现的最广为人知的文化是什么？让我们谈谈亚洲？
我会说黄河文明（中国）和德拉威文明（南印度）。
朝鲜人和日本人是后来的民族部落，他们通过移民和入侵来到中国文明附近，然后从中国的黄河文明中引进思想、文化和技术。
Alan Roberts, mongoloid race researcher蒙古族研究者
That would be millions of years ago.
The better question is, which is the most widely known culture to have existed first from a certain region? Let say Asia?
I would say the Yellow River civilization (China) and Dravidian Civilization (South India).
The Koreans and Japanese are later tribes of peoples who arrived near the Chinese civilization through migration and invasions that settled near them, who then imported ideas, cultures and technologies from the Chinese Yellow River Civilization.
包括语言和书写形式在内的文化早在你所说的种族存在之前就已经存在了。
那是几百万年前的事了。
更好的问题是，从某个地区最早出现的最广为人知的文化是什么？让我们谈谈亚洲？
我会说黄河文明（中国）和德拉威文明（南印度）。
朝鲜人和日本人是后来的民族部落，他们通过移民和入侵来到中国文明附近，然后从中国的黄河文明中引进思想、文化和技术。
Alan Roberts, mongoloid race researcher蒙古族研究者
about 35,000 years ago the ice sheets began to expand again. By this time, humans had spread to Siberia.the humans in the severe north produced the Mongoloid racial type. This race is best suited to survive extreme cold, with stocky build, small extremities, relatively little body or facial hair, flat faces, and fat padded eyes.[1]
however during Mesolithic era or during end of stone age the mongoloids or paleo Siberians began to mass migrate and expanded to fill the habitable areas: north, south, and northeast. This would have included North china,Mongolia, Siberia, Manchuria, and Beringia[2]
and the migratory pattern is more accurate, with the end of the last major Ice Age, we find archaeological traces of a hunting and gathering society from about 20,000 BC. These traces are found in China, Mongolia, Manchuria, and the Americas.
the first Asian culture to develop was obliviously in china through fromation of shang dynsaty The Shang ruled from 1600 to 1046 B.C in bronze age china The many of the key features of east asian culture is developed during this time .
大约3.5万年前，冰层覆盖面积开始再次扩张。此时，人类已经扩散到西伯利亚。在严酷的北方，人类产生了蒙古人种。这个种族最适合在极端寒冷的环境中生存，身材矮胖，四肢较小，体毛或面部毛发相对较少，面部扁平，眼睛布满脂肪。
然而，在中石器时代或石器时代末期，蒙古人或古西伯利亚人开始大规模迁移并扩展到北部，南部和东北部等宜居地区。这其中包括华北、蒙古、西伯利亚、满洲和白令陆桥。
而迁徙模式更为准确，随着上一个主要冰河时代的结束，我们发现了公元前20000年左右狩猎和聚集社会的考古遗迹。这些痕迹在中国、蒙古、满洲和美洲都有发现。
商代时期，在中国出现了亚洲最早的文化。商在公元前1600年至公元前1046年统治着中国青铜时代。东亚文化的许多关键特征在此时期得以发展。
Taylor Naza, knows Mandarin Chinese懂普通话
however during Mesolithic era or during end of stone age the mongoloids or paleo Siberians began to mass migrate and expanded to fill the habitable areas: north, south, and northeast. This would have included North china,Mongolia, Siberia, Manchuria, and Beringia[2]
and the migratory pattern is more accurate, with the end of the last major Ice Age, we find archaeological traces of a hunting and gathering society from about 20,000 BC. These traces are found in China, Mongolia, Manchuria, and the Americas.
the first Asian culture to develop was obliviously in china through fromation of shang dynsaty The Shang ruled from 1600 to 1046 B.C in bronze age china The many of the key features of east asian culture is developed during this time .
大约3.5万年前，冰层覆盖面积开始再次扩张。此时，人类已经扩散到西伯利亚。在严酷的北方，人类产生了蒙古人种。这个种族最适合在极端寒冷的环境中生存，身材矮胖，四肢较小，体毛或面部毛发相对较少，面部扁平，眼睛布满脂肪。
然而，在中石器时代或石器时代末期，蒙古人或古西伯利亚人开始大规模迁移并扩展到北部，南部和东北部等宜居地区。这其中包括华北、蒙古、西伯利亚、满洲和白令陆桥。
而迁徙模式更为准确，随着上一个主要冰河时代的结束，我们发现了公元前20000年左右狩猎和聚集社会的考古遗迹。这些痕迹在中国、蒙古、满洲和美洲都有发现。
商代时期，在中国出现了亚洲最早的文化。商在公元前1600年至公元前1046年统治着中国青铜时代。东亚文化的许多关键特征在此时期得以发展。
Taylor Naza, knows Mandarin Chinese懂普通话
I’m not sure. My instinct is to say “China” but aren’t all East Asians co sidered Mongoloids so therefore come from Mongolia? I don’t know for sure, though.
我不确定。我的直觉是说“中国”，但不是所有的东亚人都被认为是蒙古人种，因此来自蒙古吗？不过，我不确定。
Zhang Tianjun, History lover历史爱好者
我不确定。我的直觉是说“中国”，但不是所有的东亚人都被认为是蒙古人种，因此来自蒙古吗？不过，我不确定。
Zhang Tianjun, History lover历史爱好者
It’s very hard to trace back when was the cultures actually founded. So let us just count the origin of culture as the start of the first dynasy.
If so, Certainly China without any doubts. And the fact that ancient China had massive influence on Japan and Korea can’t be denied and ignored. The first dynasty of China is Xia which started around 2070BC and ended at 1600BC. Well i know lots of foreign historians do not recognise Xia dynasty. Well then, let’s count Shang as the first then. Shang dynasty start at 1600BC and end at 1046BC.
甲骨文jiaguwen Shang dynasty
If so, Certainly China without any doubts. And the fact that ancient China had massive influence on Japan and Korea can’t be denied and ignored. The first dynasty of China is Xia which started around 2070BC and ended at 1600BC. Well i know lots of foreign historians do not recognise Xia dynasty. Well then, let’s count Shang as the first then. Shang dynasty start at 1600BC and end at 1046BC.
甲骨文jiaguwen Shang dynasty
(At least Shang has proves for its existence)
很难追溯这些文化是什么时候形成的。所以让我们把文化的起源看作是第一个王朝的开始。
如果是这样的话，毫无疑问是中国。古代中国对日本和朝鲜的影响是不容否认和忽视的。中国的第一个朝代是夏，开始于公元前2070年，结束于公元前1600年。我知道很多外国历史学家不承认夏朝。好吧，那我们就先算商朝。商朝始于公元前1600年，结束于公元前1046年。
商朝时期的甲骨文至少已经证明了商朝是存在的。
很难追溯这些文化是什么时候形成的。所以让我们把文化的起源看作是第一个王朝的开始。
如果是这样的话，毫无疑问是中国。古代中国对日本和朝鲜的影响是不容否认和忽视的。中国的第一个朝代是夏，开始于公元前2070年，结束于公元前1600年。我知道很多外国历史学家不承认夏朝。好吧，那我们就先算商朝。商朝始于公元前1600年，结束于公元前1046年。
商朝时期的甲骨文至少已经证明了商朝是存在的。
According to legend, Korea first dynasty Gojoseon was founded by Dangun in 2333 BCE.
But as you can see.. LEGENDS. It also does not have strong evidences or proves for its actual year of establishment. So if people don’t recognise Xia which have relatively more evidences of existence, why would it be fair?!! I have my rights to doubt Korean Dungan found the dynasty in 2333BCE while it’s your freedom to believe Xia is not real. (Who the heck can live up to 1908 years old anyways? Ppl who believe it consult a doctor)So let’s count Gija Joseon as the first. (Although Gija himself is also a mythological figure)(and it’s believe that Gija is from Shang dynasty)Korean first dynasty should come around 1000BCE.
Japan it’s probably the latest among three. Even its LEGEND stated its first emperor was Jimmu founded in 660BCE.
据传说，朝鲜第一个王朝高句丽是由檀君于公元前2333年建立的。
但正如你所见，这是传说。它也没有关于其实际成立年份的有力证据。所以，如果人们在夏朝存在的证据相对较多的情况下也不对此予以承认，那这公平吗？我有权力对朝鲜人檀君在公元前2333年建立王朝表示怀疑，你认为夏朝是不存在的，这也是你的自由。（到底谁能活到1908岁？相信他的人请去咨询医生），所以让我们把箕子朝鲜算作是第一个。（虽然箕子本人也是一个神话人物）（并且人们认为箕子来自商朝）朝鲜第一王朝应该在公元前1000年左右。
日本可能是三个国家中最晚的一个。就连它的传说都说它的第一个皇帝是公元前660年设立的神武天皇。
But as you can see.. LEGENDS. It also does not have strong evidences or proves for its actual year of establishment. So if people don’t recognise Xia which have relatively more evidences of existence, why would it be fair?!! I have my rights to doubt Korean Dungan found the dynasty in 2333BCE while it’s your freedom to believe Xia is not real. (Who the heck can live up to 1908 years old anyways? Ppl who believe it consult a doctor)So let’s count Gija Joseon as the first. (Although Gija himself is also a mythological figure)(and it’s believe that Gija is from Shang dynasty)Korean first dynasty should come around 1000BCE.
Japan it’s probably the latest among three. Even its LEGEND stated its first emperor was Jimmu founded in 660BCE.
据传说，朝鲜第一个王朝高句丽是由檀君于公元前2333年建立的。
但正如你所见，这是传说。它也没有关于其实际成立年份的有力证据。所以，如果人们在夏朝存在的证据相对较多的情况下也不对此予以承认，那这公平吗？我有权力对朝鲜人檀君在公元前2333年建立王朝表示怀疑，你认为夏朝是不存在的，这也是你的自由。（到底谁能活到1908岁？相信他的人请去咨询医生），所以让我们把箕子朝鲜算作是第一个。（虽然箕子本人也是一个神话人物）（并且人们认为箕子来自商朝）朝鲜第一王朝应该在公元前1000年左右。
日本可能是三个国家中最晚的一个。就连它的传说都说它的第一个皇帝是公元前660年设立的神武天皇。
And Korea and Japan cultures are very much adobted,changed, or even improved from the ancient China. This is a fact you just can’t deny. China is the central powerhouse in east Asia for the last at least 2500 years. Its influences over neighbouring countries are significant and very obvious even in today. When i talk about the China influence don’t use your stereotypes of China today to judge and view the ancient China. After all China today is completely different to ancient China itself to the point that i would say Japan and Korea looks more like the ancient China to me in terms of cultures,traditions,architectures and so on. Modern China had pretty much thrown away most of its valuable traditions and cultures over the last 200 years(Manchurian Qing rule, western influences, japanese invasion, communist rule, the cultural revolution)
Korea was actually a tribute of (satellite states)China in differenf periods whether you like it or nor.
而朝鲜和日本的文化都与古代中国的文化之间有着很大的联系，并且是在古代中国文化的基础上加以改造，甚至是改进的。这是一个你不能否认的事实。在过去至少2500年里，中国是东亚的中心强国。即使在今天，它对邻国的影响也是巨大和非常明显的。当我谈到中国的影响力时，不要用你对今天中国的成见来判断和看待古代中国。毕竟今天的中国与古代中国完全不同，我想说的是，在我看来日本和朝鲜在文化、传统、建筑等方面更像古代中国。在过去的200年里，现代中国几乎丢掉了大部分宝贵的传统和文化（满清统治、西方影响、日本侵略.......）
不管你喜不喜欢，朝鲜实际上是中国在不同时期的藩属国（卫星国）。
Korea was actually a tribute of (satellite states)China in differenf periods whether you like it or nor.
而朝鲜和日本的文化都与古代中国的文化之间有着很大的联系，并且是在古代中国文化的基础上加以改造，甚至是改进的。这是一个你不能否认的事实。在过去至少2500年里，中国是东亚的中心强国。即使在今天，它对邻国的影响也是巨大和非常明显的。当我谈到中国的影响力时，不要用你对今天中国的成见来判断和看待古代中国。毕竟今天的中国与古代中国完全不同，我想说的是，在我看来日本和朝鲜在文化、传统、建筑等方面更像古代中国。在过去的200年里，现代中国几乎丢掉了大部分宝贵的传统和文化（满清统治、西方影响、日本侵略.......）
不管你喜不喜欢，朝鲜实际上是中国在不同时期的藩属国（卫星国）。
IN Han dynasty, Early Jin dynasty, Tang dynasty, Yuan dynasty(i guess we can ignore this since China itself is being conquered by Mongols) Ming dynasty and Qing dynasty(again we can ignore Qing since China itself is being ruled by Manchurians) i am lazy to give proofs for these, so if you have specific doubts over particular era when Korea was a tribute to China then just question me in comment.
Korea today pretty much look a lot like Ming dynasty. Please don’t say it’s a coincidence or Ming copied Korea because it is not. Ming and Korean Joseon dynasty had rather a very close and friendly relations. Ming was very much like a big bro to Korea at that time and many traditions, systems was adobted to Korea diring that time. Hanbok is a good example.
As for Japan it has a huge influence from Tang dynasty.
Japan sent lots of 遣唐使 (kentoshi)to China to study cultures, buddism and so on during SuiTang dynasties.
Korea today pretty much look a lot like Ming dynasty. Please don’t say it’s a coincidence or Ming copied Korea because it is not. Ming and Korean Joseon dynasty had rather a very close and friendly relations. Ming was very much like a big bro to Korea at that time and many traditions, systems was adobted to Korea diring that time. Hanbok is a good example.
As for Japan it has a huge influence from Tang dynasty.
Japan sent lots of 遣唐使 (kentoshi)to China to study cultures, buddism and so on during SuiTang dynasties.
And for more information search up 大化の改新. Japan was crazy about importing China Tang political systems, laws, cultures, religions and even fashion during the nara period.
在汉朝、金朝初年、唐朝、元朝（我想我们可以忽略这一点，因为中国本身被蒙古人征服了）、明朝和清朝（同样我们可以忽略清朝，因为中国本身正被满洲人统治）我懒得去证明这些，所以，如果你对朝鲜是中国藩属国的特定时代有什么特别的疑问，那就在评论中问我。
今天的朝鲜很像明朝。请不要说这是巧合或明朝抄袭朝鲜，因为它不是。明朝与朝鲜王朝有着相当密切和友好的关系。明朝在当时很像朝鲜的一个大哥，很多传统、制度都被当时朝鲜所采用。服装就是一个很好的例子。
对日本来说，唐朝对其有巨大的影响。
隋唐时期，日本派遣了大量的遣唐使到中国学习文化、佛教等。
欲知更多信息，请搜索“奈良时代”、“大化革新”，日本疯狂地向中国唐朝引入政治制度、法律、文化、宗教甚至时尚。
在汉朝、金朝初年、唐朝、元朝（我想我们可以忽略这一点，因为中国本身被蒙古人征服了）、明朝和清朝（同样我们可以忽略清朝，因为中国本身正被满洲人统治）我懒得去证明这些，所以，如果你对朝鲜是中国藩属国的特定时代有什么特别的疑问，那就在评论中问我。
今天的朝鲜很像明朝。请不要说这是巧合或明朝抄袭朝鲜，因为它不是。明朝与朝鲜王朝有着相当密切和友好的关系。明朝在当时很像朝鲜的一个大哥，很多传统、制度都被当时朝鲜所采用。服装就是一个很好的例子。
对日本来说，唐朝对其有巨大的影响。
隋唐时期，日本派遣了大量的遣唐使到中国学习文化、佛教等。
欲知更多信息，请搜索“奈良时代”、“大化革新”，日本疯狂地向中国唐朝引入政治制度、法律、文化、宗教甚至时尚。
Ive heard that Nara and kyoto was built in the model of Chang’An city capital of Tang. Might be true in the old times but the modern Nara and kyoto certainly changed a lot just like Chang’An itself had vanished from the history(Today Xi’An is more like a Ming qing city).
But for both countries the most important influence is the confucius. And you can see confucius way of life, ideas and values in Japanese and Korean daily lives very much. Not so much in china tho, how ironic. China had always been the 礼仪之邦(the most polite and civilised) in history thanks to the confucius, but the modern China ehhh i do not really think so. China yet abondoned another its own valuable culture and Japan and Korea are the ones that inherit it.
听说奈良和京都是按照唐朝首都长安城的模式建造的。在古时候也许是真的，但现代的奈良和京都确实发生了很大的变化，就像长安从历史上消失一样（今天的西安更像是一座明清城市）。
但对两国来说，最重要的影响是孔子。在日本和朝鲜的日常生活中，你可以看到孔子的生活方式、思想观念和价值观。在中国则没那么多，真是讽刺。多亏了孔子，中国在历史上一直实行礼仪之邦（最礼貌和最文明的国家），但我并不认为现代中国如此。中国还放弃了自己的另一个宝贵文化，日本和朝鲜则是在继承它。
But for both countries the most important influence is the confucius. And you can see confucius way of life, ideas and values in Japanese and Korean daily lives very much. Not so much in china tho, how ironic. China had always been the 礼仪之邦(the most polite and civilised) in history thanks to the confucius, but the modern China ehhh i do not really think so. China yet abondoned another its own valuable culture and Japan and Korea are the ones that inherit it.
听说奈良和京都是按照唐朝首都长安城的模式建造的。在古时候也许是真的，但现代的奈良和京都确实发生了很大的变化，就像长安从历史上消失一样（今天的西安更像是一座明清城市）。
但对两国来说，最重要的影响是孔子。在日本和朝鲜的日常生活中，你可以看到孔子的生活方式、思想观念和价值观。在中国则没那么多，真是讽刺。多亏了孔子，中国在历史上一直实行礼仪之邦（最礼貌和最文明的国家），但我并不认为现代中国如此。中国还放弃了自己的另一个宝贵文化，日本和朝鲜则是在继承它。
Well as conclusion i would say China cultures is the earliest and had its influence to its neighbours such as Korea and Japan massively. Korea and japan combined cultures they learnt from china and their own native cultures to improve and become the Korea and Japan we know today. As for China, although it’s the origin of the east asia culture and the eldest, if it still don’t realise the dangers of throwing its own traditions and cultures away, one day they will certainly regret it. It would be sad for Chinese people to not even know their own cultures well. (Search up for the chengdu hanfu girl incident)
P.S. If you want to feel the real ancient China, sorry you cant find them in China tho. Instead i recommend Japan. I am a three kingdoms and Tang fan myself. Japan is like the perfect place to ‘travel back’ to the ancient China especially Kyoto and nara.(of course if you wanna see ming dynasty you can still come to china)
Apology…Sorry that i didnt answer ethnicity i dont know about that much. But i do believe three races are from the same origins, not sure where, not sure when.
作为结论，我要说的是，中国文化是最早的，并且对它的邻国如朝鲜和日本有着广泛的影响。朝鲜和日本将他们从中国学到的文化和他们自己的本土文化结合起来，发展成为我们今天所认识的朝鲜和日本。至于中国，虽然它是东亚文化的发源地和老大，但如果它还没有意识到抛弃自己的传统和文化的危险，总有一天他们一定会后悔的。如果中国人连自己的文化都不了解，那就太可悲了。（搜成都汉服女孩事件）
另外，如果你想感受真正的古代中国，很抱歉，你无法在中国找到它们。相反，我推荐日本。我是三国和唐朝的粉丝。日本就像是可以让你“回到”古代中国的理想之地，特别是京都和奈良（当然，如果你想看明朝，你仍然可以来中国）
抱歉…很抱歉我没有回答种族问题，我对此不太了解。但我相信三个种族来自同一个起源，但时间和地点还不确定。
P.S. If you want to feel the real ancient China, sorry you cant find them in China tho. Instead i recommend Japan. I am a three kingdoms and Tang fan myself. Japan is like the perfect place to ‘travel back’ to the ancient China especially Kyoto and nara.(of course if you wanna see ming dynasty you can still come to china)
Apology…Sorry that i didnt answer ethnicity i dont know about that much. But i do believe three races are from the same origins, not sure where, not sure when.
作为结论，我要说的是，中国文化是最早的，并且对它的邻国如朝鲜和日本有着广泛的影响。朝鲜和日本将他们从中国学到的文化和他们自己的本土文化结合起来，发展成为我们今天所认识的朝鲜和日本。至于中国，虽然它是东亚文化的发源地和老大，但如果它还没有意识到抛弃自己的传统和文化的危险，总有一天他们一定会后悔的。如果中国人连自己的文化都不了解，那就太可悲了。（搜成都汉服女孩事件）
另外，如果你想感受真正的古代中国，很抱歉，你无法在中国找到它们。相反，我推荐日本。我是三国和唐朝的粉丝。日本就像是可以让你“回到”古代中国的理想之地，特别是京都和奈良（当然，如果你想看明朝，你仍然可以来中国）
抱歉…很抱歉我没有回答种族问题，我对此不太了解。但我相信三个种族来自同一个起源，但时间和地点还不确定。
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