英国反极端主义领袖警告说，“黑人的命也是命”运动被极右翼暴徒利用了

SexWombleJo Swinson ate my bourbon
When your political philosophy revolves around the idea that everyone should pay a LOT more attention to what race they are, it’s not really all that surprising that some of them do and it doesn’t work out well.

当你的政治哲学就是围绕着每个人都应该更多地关注自己的种族这一观点时，有些人这样做并没有什么好奇怪的，并且你的预防效果并不会好。

ApolloNeed
It’s what happened in America, we’re lucky to have a very tolerant nation, but as minority groups become stronger by unifying, the same effect happens in the majority group, if you form an ethnic group to better collectively bargain, you inadvertently form other groupings with that same criteria. A rising tide lifts all ships, but this movement will only create conflict in the name of solving a problem that doesn’t exist, but will be created by the backlash.

这就是发生在美国的事情，我们很幸运有一个非常宽容的国家，但是当少数群体通过团结变得更强大，同样的效果也发生在大多数群体中，如果你形成一个种族群体来更好地进行集体谈判，那你也会在无意中导致形成其他有同样标准的群体。水涨船高，但这种运动只会以解决一个根本不存在的问题的名义制造冲突，但这个原本不存在的问题随后将会被强烈的反对所制造出来。

theknightwho
It’s interesting how any attempts to remove racism always result in supposed moderates decrying them for supposedly increasing racism.
You don’t become racist because someone asked for equality, and pretending BLM are anti-white is simply dishonest.

有趣的是，任何消除种族主义的尝试总是会导致所谓的温和派谴责他们增加种族主义。
你不会因为有人要求平等而成为种族主义者，而假装“黑人的命也是命”是反白人的是完全不诚实的。

gashead31Radical pragmatist
Except at literally every BLM protest there have been countless placards bearing derogatory slogans about white people.

除了几乎每一次“黑人的命也是命”的抗议活动，都有无数写着贬损白人口号的标语。

KestreltalonI wish I could unsee 8 years of this sub...
BLM have caused more division and more racialisation of our society
They haven''t caused racialisation, they''ve just exposed it. It''s obvious in America, but we like being very quiet and genteel and generally going about our day-to-day lives telling ourselves it doesn''t exist here, which is why people are now shocked. A divided and racialised society isn''t news to black Britons.

“‘黑人的命也是命’给我们的社会造成了更多的分裂和种族化”
他们没有引起种族歧视，他们只是揭露了它。这在美国是显而易见的，但我们喜欢保持安静和文雅，在日常生活中，我们通常会告诉自己，这里根本不存在这样的人，这就是为什么人们现在感到震惊的原因。一个分裂和种族化的社会对英国黑人来说并不新鲜。

DurkaTurk02
It isn''t news. But when you frx everything around race than you are going to see a racialised society. This is something the UK (along with the rest) has been trying to stamp out. I believe there was part of a famous speech which contained a very famous line to this effect.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
What are we being asked now? To judge scenarios based on the colour of skin rather than the content of character. To address issues soley on skin colour rather then the content of the actual issues.

这不是新闻。但当你把一切都框定在种族上时，你就会看到一个种族化的社会。这是英国（以及其他国家）一直试图消灭的。我相信在一个著名的，包含了这样一句非常著名的话的演讲中，有一部分内容就是这样说的。
“我梦想有一天，我的四个孩子将生活在一个不是以他们的肤色，而是以他们的品格优劣来评价他们的国家里。”
可我们现在被要求了什么？根据肤色而不是人物品格来判断一个人。只根据肤色处理问题，而不根据实际问题的内容。

_tpyo
I can''t help but feel this is a natural reaction to the countless banners and slogans from BLM saying derogatory things about white people, while desecrating culturally important British monuments.
I think its slightly more interesting than this and ties into the "indignance machine" of social media and clickbait. You take a nugget of truth, say: that picture of the statue of Churchill with graffiti on it.
However instead of coldly reporting the story you write whatever you want, starting using the word traitor, imply that all protesters were defacing statues, imply all protesters needed to be charged by the cops on horseback. Take that single truth and project a much bigger and much more terrifying shadow.

“我不禁觉得这是对‘黑人的命也是命’无数的横幅和口号的自然反应，这些标语和口号贬损了白人，同时亵渎了英国重要的文化遗迹”
我认为它比这更有趣，而且与社交媒体和点击诱饵的“愤怒机器”有关。你只得到了真相的一小块（却得不到整个背景），比如：丘吉尔雕像上的涂鸦。
然而，你并没有冷漠客观地报道这个故事，而是你想写什么就写什么，开始使用“叛徒”这个词，暗示所有的抗议者都在破坏雕像，暗示所有的抗议者都需要被骑在马背上的警察起诉。只抓住这个单一的事实，然后投射出一个更大、更可怕的阴影。

gashead31Radical pragmatist
Social media outrage culture definitely contributes.
But in fairness I think it more works to reconfirm existing views than actually driving a narrative.
The same way that something like the daily mail or the guardian is targeted at people susceptible to a general set of opinions.

社交媒体的愤怒文化无疑起到了一定作用。
但公平地说，我认为它起到的更多的作用只是重申现有的观点，而不是真正推动一个故事。
这和《每日邮报》和《卫报》的目标读者是那些容易受某种一般性观点影响的人是同样的套路。

ownedkeanescar
This thread is the perfect illustration of how dramatically the discourse on this sub has changed in recent weeks.

这个帖子完美地说明了最近几周关于这个版块的讨论发生了多么戏剧性的变化（从支持黑人到讨厌黑人）。

fishnchips
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

对于每一个作用力，都会有一个大小相等方向相反的反作用力。

heresyourhardwarechundering from a sedentary position[S]
Can''t be surprised at the far-right kicking up dust when they see racism being challenged.

当极右势力看到种族主义受到挑战时，他们的嚣张气焰并不会让人感到惊讶。

MouldyCash
Of course BLM are going to cause a stir in people who have never had to consider race as an everyday factor in their life, their socio-economic outcomes and social circles.
It feels like an attack on Britishness to some because we’re having to stare down the barrel of our history and come to terms with the fact that the Britain we think we love has been built upon centuries of discrimination. The entire British Empire was built upon slavery, exploitation of both natural and Human Resources abroad and the development of political science which promotes European quasi-Christian political theory as the gold standard to which other nations much be compared.
Look at Liverpool, Manchester, Bristol and London, all cities which can trace their huge wealth to the trade and exploitation of African labour in the West Indies, and places like Birmingham which exported thousands upon thousands of weapons to conflict zones destabilised by British presence. Living White Britons should not feel guilty because of this (anyone who promotes ‘white guilt’ is misled), but we should become more aware of the true reason Britain became a predominant global power. It’s not because we are smarter or more hardworking than everybody else, but because we had the technology to manufacture weapons like the Maxim gun, and huge ships to facilitate the oceanic trade of people and resources. When people are asked to address their history in this way, it will undoubtedly cause a knee jerk reaction because it feels like an attack on you and your heritage. However hard it may be, you need to take off the rose-tinted glasses our history is too often viewed through.
When you consider the everyday experiences of Black, Asian and Ethnic Minority (BAME) people, they exist in a country that purports to be equal, though daily experiences seem to confirm the opposite. Small barriers a White Briton might brush off as an annoying but ultimately harmless experiences (not getting a job, being harassed by police, facing abuse on the street) are only small when they are infrequent and far between. If you face these challenges on a regular basis, for seemingly no other reason than the colour of your skin, you are going to start understandably feeling like they are the result of a systemically racist system that we are all involved in, and only a few ultimately benefit from.
How often does a white person have to give themselves a nickname in school because teachers can’t pronounce their name? You might think that it’s unfair to expect the teacher to get their name right first time, if it’s a name they haven’t heard before, but imagine how damaging it must feel if over the course of a year a teacher doesn’t spend the time to learn how to pronounce something properly. Not learning somebody’s name an ultimate form of disrespect, and while it might seem like a humorous experience to observers, it may be just once piece in a much larger puzzle which leaves BAME people feel dejected by wider society and distrustful of authority.
The methods of Black Lives Matter are loud, they are challenging and they are in some cases disruptive. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE. Their very message is so fundamentally opposed to the cosy white ‘isn’t Britain so great! we have tea and spitfires’ mentality that it would be ignored if it could be. So the movement has to design its processes and methods to make sure it cannot be ignored. Any movement which seeks to challenge the status quo will undoubtedly raise a whole host of heckles, because the status quo only exists if the majority of people believe in it. This is why white Britons may feel challenged and scared by BLM. When you look past the movements (very justifiable) language and actions, you realise that they aren’t looking to wipe your history, they aren’t looking to destroy your local pub, they aren’t taking the fun out of football, they just want to live in a country where they aren’t constantly reminded that they are seen as dangerous, lazy or untrustworthy simply by virtue of the colour of their skin. To make this possible, they have to fundamentally challenge a whole host of assumptions and beliefs a majority of people hold. It’d do everyone a lot of good if we just stopped reacting blindly to perceived attacks on us as individuals, and realise it’s the system around us they are targeting.
TLDR: Of course BLM is divisive, it has to be. It challenges us to look at our history without rose-tinted glasses. Some may decry their rhetoric as inflammatory but they have use potentially divisive language and methods to ensure their message cannot be ignored.

当然，“黑人的命也是命”将会在那些从来没有把种族作为他们生活、社会经济成果和社交圈的日常因素的人们中引起轰动。
对一些人来说，这就像是对“英国特性”的攻击，因为我们不得不正视我们的历史，不得不接受这样一个事实，即我们自以为深爱的英国几百年来其实一直就建立在歧视的基础上。整个大英帝国是建立在奴隶制、对国外自然资源和人力资源的剥削以及使欧洲准基督教政治理论成为比较其他国家的黄金标准政治科学的发展之上的。
看看利物浦、曼彻斯特、布里斯托尔和伦敦，所有这些城市的巨额财富都可以追溯到西印度群岛的贸易和对非洲劳工的剥削，还有像伯明翰这样的地方，它们向因英国的存在而不稳定的冲突地区出口了成千上万的武器。活着的英国白人不应该因此而感到内疚（任何宣扬“白人内疚”的人都被误导了），但我们应该更加了解英国成为世界强国的真正原因。这并不是因为我们比其他人更聪明或更勤奋，而是因为我们拥有制造像马克沁机枪这样的武器的科技，以及促进人员和资源的海洋贸易的大型船只。当人们被要求以这种方式讲述他们的历史时，无疑会引起一种膝跳反应，因为这感觉像是在攻击你和你的传统。无论有多么困难，你都需要摘下我们的历史经常被看穿的那副玫瑰色的眼镜。
当你考虑到黑人、亚洲人和少数民族的日常经历时，会发现他们生活在一个声称平等的国家，尽管日常经历似乎证实了相反的情况。对于一个英国白人来说，小小的障碍可能是一种恼人但最终无害的经历（找不到工作，被警察骚扰，在街上受到虐待），但只有当这些障碍不常见且距离很远的时候，这些障碍才算小。但如果你经常面对这些挑战，原因无他，只是因为你的肤色，那么你会开始觉得这是可以理解的：因为这些是一个系统性的种族主义体制的结果，我们都参与其中，只有少数人最终从中受益。
在学校里，白人多长时间会因为老师不会念他们的名字而给自己起绰号？你可能会认为指望老师第一次就把名字写对是不公平的，如果这个名字他们以前没听过的话，但是想象一下，如果老师在一年的时间里都没有花时间学习如何正确发音，那将会是多么严重的后果。不知道别人的名字是一种终极形式的不尊重，虽然对旁观者来说这似乎是一种幽默的经历，但它可能只是一个更大的谜团中的一部分，让少数族裔对更广泛的社会感到沮丧，并不信任权威。
“黑人的命也是命”的做法是高调的，它们具有挑战性，在某些情况下还具有破坏性。这是因为他们必须这样做。他们所传达的信息就是从根本上反对“难道英国不很伟大吗？我们有茶和喷火战机”的心态，在这种心态下，如果可能的话，这个运动会被无视。因此，这个运动必须设计它的过程和做法，以确保它不能被无视。任何试图挑战现状的运动无疑都会引起许多人的质疑，因为现状之所以存在，正是因为大多数人都认可它。这就是为什么英国白人可能会对“黑人的命也是命”感到挑战和恐惧的原因。当你看到过去的那些（非常正当的）运动的口号和行动，你会意识到，你意识到它们并不是想抹杀你的历史，也不是想毁掉你当地的酒吧，他们并没有剥夺足球的乐趣，他们只是想生活在这样一个国家——在那里他们不会因为自己的肤色而被人认为是危险的、懒惰的或不值得信赖的。要做到这一点，他们必须从根本上挑战大多数人持有的一整套假设和信念。如果我们不再对那些针对我们个人的攻击做出盲目的反应，并意识到他们针对的其实是我们周围的体制，那么这对每个人都有好处。
太长了，总结一下：“黑人的命也是命”当然是分裂性的，这是必然的。它向我们提出了不带着玫瑰色的眼镜来看待我们历史的挑战。有些人可能谴责他们的言论是煽动性的，但他们使用潜在的分裂性口号和方法，以确保他们的信息不会被无视。