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Jimmy Atisa, lives in Indonesia
Not all chinese indonesians are rich you know.. Stop with the stereotype.
We, chinese indonesians, born and raised here. We don’t study china’s history, so we don’t feel the attachment with china as a country, but only as a place of origins, the motherland.
Besides, as an ordinary citizen with ordinary income, I don’t think china will accept us immediately, because china already has a lot of citizens and is very dense place.
Yes, many of us felt as if we are not welcomed here in indonesia, eventhough we are born and raised here.. But it is not that easy to move to another country and leave our jobs, our families and friends behind. Besides, I’m sure chinese and indonesian chinese have a lot differences on the value of lifes, because we are two different citizens on two different country after all..
Plus, on our dictactor president era, chinese language were prohibiden, so on my generation, many chinese indonesian can’t speak mandarin.
upxe : 15-9-2019
I wonder why some of the comments I got are weirds, and some of them are out of topic. One of them was "Rio Gunawan", after I replied to his comment, he dexed it himself.
The comment goes :
You are a fool. You don''t need to comment on representing the ethnic Chinese of Indonesia. I am ethnic Chinese Indonesian and both of my parents are of Chinese descent from mainland Chinese origin (Fujian). I personally still consider the country of China as biological father and Indonesia is only a stepfather. this is because I personally and many other ethnic Chinese who feel discrimination by government policy. but that does not mean I consider Indonesia an enemy country. not at all. As a stepfather it is more appropriate. Don''t forget the anti-China riot tragedies that continue to recur in Indonesia. If you are a victim of the outrageous savagery then you will think differently. Look at student demonstrations in Beijing over the May 1998 riots in Indonesia. it signifies that the Chinese in mainland China (and Chinese all over the world) see us as siblings of fellow Chinese. Put that in your head.
The reduction in discrimination against ethnic Chinese in Indonesia is an external factor such as the rise of China as an Asian superpower and international pressure.
And my reply goes :
Wait. Are you the same guy as Johan Sastra? On my notifications, I got 2 same comments for my answer from 2 different people
Yes, I am a fool. Yes, anybody can answer this question and you don''t need to demeaning somebody else to make your answer correct, that''s a bad behaviour. And you don''t need to tell people on which region your ancestors in china from. What''s the point of that, to make anybody read believe?
I never said indonesia as a country and indonesian people are enemies. That''s just a stupid way to interpret my answer. The question was about "will indonesian chinese move back to china" and my answer was about "no, because we are two different citizens from two different countries and it is not as simple as that to move to other country".
Actually, before the may 1998 riot occurs, indonesian chinese were discriminated already. I myself as a child, and long before indonesian independence "the dutch colonial eras".
And we are talking about "will china accept us?" not "will beijing students accept us?". Eventhough beijing students accept us, they cannot make us become china''s citizen. Only the government can.
The reduction in discrimination against ethnic Chinese in Indonesia is an external factor such as the rise of China as an Asian superpower and international pressure.
That probably true and probably not, but if you see ahok case and meiliana case. And the recent demonstration. It was clearly not the case here.
And after that, he dexed his comment. -.-‘

并非所有印尼华人都是富裕的，不要刻板印象了。
我们印尼华人生长在这里。我们没有学习中国历史，所以我们和中国没有特别的亲近感，而只是把中国看成我们的起源地，即祖国。
此外，作为一个拥有普通收入的普通人，我认为中国不会立马接受我们，因为中国自己人口 已经很多，也非常拥挤。

是的，很多印尼华人觉得在印尼不受欢迎，尽管我们在印尼土生土长。但是搬去另一个国家，离开我们的工作，家人和朋友，这不是一件容易的事情。而且我可以肯定中国人和印尼华人在生活价值观方面有很多不同，因为我们是两个不同国家的公民。
此外，在我们的总统时期，中文是被禁止的，所以我这一代的印尼华人很多都不会说中文。
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Jonathan Chong
I am a Malaysian Chinese, generally I think your answer is fair and correct. That Rio Gunawan was overly emotional.
In my case, because I can speak fluent Mandarin and Cantonese as well as Hokkien and Hakka despite unable to read and write Chinese, I had been to Beijing, Guang Zhou, Hong Kong and Shenzen, I do not feel out of place at all in China, in fact 20+ years ago while in Beijing, I chance upon a local Hakka and we both converse in Hakka as though we were from same village despite actually had been generations apart since my forefathers emigrated to Malaya.
And yet, I am not contemplating becoming a Chinese citizen. I respect Chinese citizen but am happy a Malaysian.

我是马来西亚华人，大体上我认为你的回答是公正和正确的。那个网友有点过于激动了。
我自己可以说流利的普通话和广东话，还会说闽南话和客家话，但是不会读写中文，我去过北京，广州，香港和深圳，我在中国根本不觉得自己特别，实际上20年前在北京的时候，我遇到一个当地的客家人，我们用客家话交流，好像我们是来自同一个村庄似的，但实际上我祖先好几代人之前就已经移民去马来亚了。
但是我并没有想着要去成为一个中国公民。我尊重中国公民，但是我是一个快乐的马来西亚人。

Erick Hilmansyah, Indonesian born Chinese live in Indonesia
Let me start by telling a story: my great grandparents come here to Indonesia from China back then bringing nothing. So all the generations after are born here. The only relatives that are not are my great grandparents from my father’s mother (in fact my great grandmother still live in Hong Kong, currently 103 years old when I wrote this). The rest: my grandparents, all my relatives, my mom and dad is BORN here in Indonesia. In my childhood Soeharto reign and forbid the use of Mandarin in school, business, even person names. The effect is somewhat trickle down to Chinese culture as well as it was somewhat suppressed. And thus leaving us those who born in 1980–2000 “disconnected” with our heritage.
It’s s like saying salak (snake fruit) is a snake because it looks alike. Yes they do similar: on a surface level.
Just like any other race we do have variation: there are people who only blended with their own race, people who more than happy to befriended with others (like me), or evenmore have interracial marriage.
I think they who hesitate to blend are comes down to chain action-reaction: we have been discriminated at some point of our life, so some of us are reluctant to blend even if we want to and thus all of us are labeled as having “exclusivity”. A chicken and egg irony, really. We feel disconnected there, and yet we (sometimes) told we’re not belong here. Like an afterlife-spirit who stuck between two worlds, where do we belong?
I did visit China, it is emotional to see their culture is where i came from and i am proud to have Chinese blood in my veins. But that doesn’t instantly makes me feel at home. Their upbringing compared to us immigrants of China all over the world, mainland Chinese arguably tend to be a bit more brash. This is purely opinion and arguable but all in all:
culturally we not really feel the connection with China
we’re a bit hesitant to be associated with them.
moving is not easy as our resource not there but here that we build from zero
there are better country to move (and to adapt with)
I’m not able to speak Mandarin yet i speak Indonesian fluently.
I breathe Indonesian air since i was born.
I eat Indonesian rice everytime when i am hungry.
Indonesian soil supports me from the get go.
So if, someday China will be the superpower nation, will most of us move there? I certainly won’t, as i am 100% Indonesian born in Indonesia, only with Chinese descent. On a surface level we looked Chinese but deep down it’s something else. Just like a snake and a salak fruit.

我先来告诉你们一个故事：我的曾祖父母从中国来到印尼，当时没有带任何东西来印尼。所以他们的后代都是在印尼出生的。不在印尼出生的亲属只有我奶奶那一边的曾祖父母（实际上我的曾祖奶奶现在还活着，生活在香港）。剩余的亲属：我的爷爷奶奶，我所有的亲属，我的爸爸妈妈都出生在印尼。在我童年的时候还是苏哈托统治时期，学校和商业都禁止使用普通话，甚至个人的名字都不能使用中文。所以1980-2000年出生的华人几乎和我们自己的传统断开。

我去过中国，看到自己祖国的文化，是很感人的，我也骄傲于自己拥有中国人血统。但是这无法令我马上拥有自己家的感觉。他们的教养与全世界华人相比有点艳俗。这只是我个人的看法。
总之，在文化上我们与中国并没有什么关联感；在是否要和他们产生联系上，我们有点犹豫；搬去中国不容易，因为我们的资源都在印尼，而不是在中国；还有更好的国家可以移民；我还不会说普通话，但是印尼语流利；我从出生开始就呼吸着印尼的空气；每次饿的时候我都吃印尼的米饭；印尼土地从一开始就支持着我。
所以，如果有一天中国成为了世界超级强国，大部分的我们会移民去那里吗？我绝对不会，因为我是100%的印尼人，在印尼出生，只不过拥有中国血统罢了。表面上我们看起来像中国人，但是内里我们不是。



Chelsy Novita, lives in China (2014-present)
No.
I went to China for my undergraduate degree, and I can safely say that most of us (Chinese Indonesians) do not speak Mandarin anymore (some of Chinese Indonesians might still speak chinese dialect which is different from Mandarin). Also, life in China is very, very different and also harder than life in Indonesia for Chinese Indonesians.
At the end of the day, most of us, Chinese Indonesians, identify to be Indonesians rather than Chinese, anyway. So, probably not.

不会。我本科在中国读的，大部分的印尼华人已经不会说普通话了（某些印尼华人可能还会说中国方言，但是和普通话是不同的）。而且中国的生活非常不一样，而且比印尼华人的生活更苦。
大部分的印尼华人会认为自己是印尼人而不是中国人。所以应该不会搬去中国。

C. Michel de Wilde, Know general history of China. I am an overseas Chinese after all.
No. Most Chinese Indonesians cannot speak Chinese and generally have properties here (i.e.: lands). they probably only want to emigrate to China if things are getting really bad, for example, the Indonesian government stripping their citizenship and confiscate their assets. unlikely to happen.

不会。大部分的印尼华人不会说中文，而且资产都在印尼（比如土地）。只有在事情非常糟糕时才可能想搬去中国，比如印尼政府剥夺了他们的公民身份或者没收了他们的财产，而这不可能发生。