美国媒体阐述中美之间的5G竞赛处于怎样的现状
Here's where the US and China stand in race to 5G networks
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美国分析师Craig Moffett在接受CNBC采访时表示：美国之所以全方位地打压华为虽然很大一部分原因是出于对“国家安全”的考虑，但是我们也同样无法将华为正在5G领域痛扁我们这一因素排除在外。
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美国媒体阐述中美之间的5G竞赛究竟处于怎样的现状
美国分析师Craig Moffett在接受CNBC采访时表示：美国之所以全方位地打压华为虽然很大一部分原因是出于对“国家安全”的考虑，但是我们也同样无法将华为正在5G领域痛扁我们这一因素排除在外。
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美国媒体阐述中美之间的5G竞赛究竟处于怎样的现状
美国分析师Craig Moffett在接受CNBC采访时表示：美国之所以全方位地打压华为虽然很大一部分原因是出于对“国家安全”的考虑，但是我们也同样无法将华为正在5G领域痛扁我们这一因素排除在外。
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Important guy commenting
Huawei is a victim of being too successful
华为成为受害者的原因仅仅是因为他们太成功了
Thomas Ward
Huawei is controlled by the Chinese government and they spy....
华为受中国政府的控制，他们还会监视我们
fan ye
Thomas Ward evidence pls
请出示证据
Michael Gabriel
Like the Amtrack is for Uncle Sam, slow, lumbering n clacking all the way.... That's ok.But why prevent others from wanting to to go high speed with the filmsiest of excuse?
就好像山姆大叔家里那些美铁公司的列车，它们速度缓慢、笨重，行驶时还会不断地发出异响..这倒无所谓，但是你们为何偏要编造一些肮脏的理由去阻碍其他国家的人们实现拥有高速列车的愿望呢？
Andrew Lim
@Thomas Ward
FedEx is controlled by u.s. govt to steal huawei's packages.
联邦快递在美国政府的控制下偷了华为的包裹
Thomas Ward
@Andrew Lim All the better the US and China should cut all ties, US companies can find cheap labor elsewhere and America certainly does NOT need China
中美两国之间最好切断所有的联系，美国企业完全可以在其他地方找到廉价的劳动力，美国自然不需要中国。
Andrew Lim
@Thomas Ward
Yeah, true last year the American companies had a sales of 378billion in China which were not included in bilateral trade, the American can find that kind of sales in South American alrite.
哈，美国企业去年在中国的销售额为3780亿美元，这数据甚至还未包括中美双边贸易中的份额。（离开中国市场以后）美国难不成准备在南美市场中找回这些销售额吗..
ForAmerican
German telecom has just said they used CISCO before and found the backdoor 10 times since 2003. So far, they found no back door in Huawei's new equipment. NSA and CIA can not spy German anymore with Huawei equipment. No wonder the US government is trying to stop Huawei.
德国电信刚刚表示，他们之前使用过思科的通讯设备，并且自2003年起，他们已经在思科设备中发现过10次后门。而截至目前为止，他们还尚未在华为的新设备中发现任何的后门。美国国家安全局和中央情报局无法通过华为的设备监视德国了，难怪美国政府正竭尽所能地阻碍华为。
expsterm1
Yah during Obama's administration, they had to apologize to Germany for spying on them.
是啊，在奥巴马执政期间，美国政府不得不为监控德国人一事向他们道歉。
grdn rs
@ForAmerican they for real recorded my private conversation with my parents.. but couldn’t find out all the domestic terrorists who were plotting to murder innocent family and children. How utterly incompetent of the NSA.
他们录下我和父母的私人谈话时倒是得心应手，然而却无法找出那些藏身于美国境内，密谋杀害无辜的家庭和儿童的恐怖分子。NSA是有多么无能啊！
ForAmerican
@grdn rs NSA is hiring engineer to do effective search. They got too much junks in their huge data center.
NSA目前正在雇佣工程师们以实现进行有效的搜索，他们那个庞大的数据中心养了太多的废物。
Rui Zhou
Yep, that's why Huawei must be destroyed! US cannot spy the global? that is national security for sure.
是的，这就是华为必须被铲除的理由！美国无法监控整个世界？这绝对是个国家安全威胁啊。
Mac Tek
China subsidizes their company's shipping costs and puts high tariffs on imports. Nobody can compete with that.since TRUMP exposed USA deficit with CHINA, we all know all register Chinese company can ship anything into the USA free. Your gov subsidized all the shipping tax fee for you guys. This been going on for 25 years, now TRUMP called u guys out for the world to see.
中国给自己的企业提供了运输补贴，并且向进口商品征收高额关税，因此没有人能与它们竞争。自特朗普将美国对华逆差问题公之于众以来，我们所有人都知道了所有登记的中国企业能够免费地向美国运送任何的商品。你们政府为你们补贴了所有的航运税款。而且这一情况已经持续了25年，如今特朗普在全世界面前揭穿了你们的伎俩。
Shengyou Lin
Mac Tek I am running a trading company in China, but I never know we have the policy of shipping cost subsidizing. you can say something out of nothing. That is a amazing ability like your president. what a country and what a people...
我目前正在中国经营一家贸易公司，然而我怎么从来没听说过这个运费补贴政策。你真能无中生有啊。这是一种你们的总统也同样拥有的惊人的能力。多么牛掰的国家，多么不凡的总统啊...
samphorsluong
1 week ago
Lol...Huawei leading the way for 5G. And American can’t compete.
哈哈...华为正在5G技术中领先，而美国人根本无力竞争。
Andrew Flood
Lol. If the US had been subsidizing it, we would be leaps and bounds ahead of the thieving Chinese dogs. Too bad we had over 20 years of bullshit "presidents" who sold us out to the Chinese.
哈哈，如果美国也一直给自己的企业提供补贴的话，我们将迅速将那些偷东西的中国狗贼抛到脑后。可惜的是，我们过去20多年以来的那些狗屁“总统们”将我们出卖给了中国人。
Chenny Boy
@Andrew Flood don't the American people choose their presidents and people in government. Democracy not looking to hot. Lol
美国总统以及政府中的那些官员不都是美国人自己选的吗..民主主义在你眼里魅力不再了吗？哈哈
Jen Grebke
@Andrew Flood America was all about free market until the competition was even LOL
美国只会在自己占尽优势时才一个劲地鼓吹自由市场，哈哈
C Gall
china has STOLEN from EVERY Country they've dealt with, their THIEVES!Olny FOOLS Trust china.
中国从所有和他们打交道的国家那里偷取技术，他们就是小偷！只有傻子才会相信中国。
Ingo Clever
1 week ago (edited)
C Gall you should get a vacation. And try to cleanse yourself from the quarterly propaganda you ′re exposed to. And I am saying that as a German with Taiwanese Roots.
C Gall 你应该请个假，试着让自己从无所不在的宣传中脱身。 并且我还是以一位祖籍台湾的德国人的身份向你说出这番话的。
Serenelove520
One of the biggest media lies is that Huawei is state owned company. It is 100% privately owned. It is been known to be so for over a decade long before it has had the kind of success it does today. We read a lot of case studies about it long before today. Some of you need to be slapped on the face and wake up to the fact that a company can and does grow to become a phenomenal without following a beaten path set by the Wall Street standards.
美国媒体编造的最大的谎言之一便是：华为是一家国有企业。实际上它是100%的私有企业。在它去的如今这样的成就之前的十多年时间里，人们都是如此看待这家公司地。我们之前也曾阅读过很多关于它的案例研究。你们中的某些人需要被打个耳光，才能清醒地意识到一个事实：一家公司可以在不遵循华尔街标准的前提下发展成为一家卓越不凡的企业。
Finally, EVEN IF Huawei is a state owned company, God, you know how many decades the CCP has been trying to crack the problem of low efficiency involved with state run entities and that almost no tech company ever come from state majority capital? Viola, we have Huawei as a solution! A pilot project! Good for the world, don’t you think? For the hundreds of developing countries to copy this model and apply to their national economy? Sadly, Huawei is 100% privately owned. Get this in your head, people.
最后，就算华为是一家国有企业吧，天啊，你们知道共产党在数十年时间里有多么努力地想解决国有企业效率低下的问题吗？在中国几乎没有任何一家科技公司拥有国资背景。如果华为真是国有企业，那么它倒是能为这个问题提供一个解决方案！一个试点项目！这对世界都是有好处的，你们不这么认为吗?其他数百个发展中国家难道不能复制这一模式，并应用于本国的经济吗？然而遗憾的是华为是100%的私有企业。牢记这一点，伙计们。
Mina H
Whoever whatever s gonna win the 5G battle, it makes no difference at all coz this piece of tech s gonna 7x24 doing much extended harm to our health upon the complete installation with those nearby broadcasting towers. This s a loss-loss battle we are looking at rite now.
无论谁赢得了5G竞赛，对我们而言都没有任何的区别。因为一旦那些无所不在的5G信号基站安装完毕之后，这项技术会无时无刻地给我们的健康造成更大的危害。所以对我们而言，这是一场胜利无望的竞赛。
Sam Ann
So 4g Huawei no security problem 5g Huawei dangerous? Something doesn't make sense normally not true.
所以说华为的4g设备不是个安全问题，而他们的5g设备忽然就很危险了？这种缺乏逻辑的事情通常都不会是真的。
sevenor
Trump: For national security, let's ban Huawei..... never mind, the security issue can wait...for 90 more days. LMAO!!!
特朗普：为了国家安全，我们将禁止华为...算了算了，国家安全问题再拖个90天也没什么关系。笑死我了！
Cutting edge Tech, Songs,Movies Space exploration
SpaceX Starlink will provide alternative to 5G network..
SpaceX的星链计划将给大众提供一个5G网络替代选项。
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Important guy commenting
Huawei is a victim of being too successful
华为成为受害者的原因仅仅是因为他们太成功了
Thomas Ward
Huawei is controlled by the Chinese government and they spy....
华为受中国政府的控制，他们还会监视我们
fan ye
Thomas Ward evidence pls
请出示证据
Michael Gabriel
Like the Amtrack is for Uncle Sam, slow, lumbering n clacking all the way.... That's ok.But why prevent others from wanting to to go high speed with the filmsiest of excuse?
就好像山姆大叔家里那些美铁公司的列车，它们速度缓慢、笨重，行驶时还会不断地发出异响..这倒无所谓，但是你们为何偏要编造一些肮脏的理由去阻碍其他国家的人们实现拥有高速列车的愿望呢？
Andrew Lim
@Thomas Ward
FedEx is controlled by u.s. govt to steal huawei's packages.
联邦快递在美国政府的控制下偷了华为的包裹
Thomas Ward
@Andrew Lim All the better the US and China should cut all ties, US companies can find cheap labor elsewhere and America certainly does NOT need China
中美两国之间最好切断所有的联系，美国企业完全可以在其他地方找到廉价的劳动力，美国自然不需要中国。
Andrew Lim
@Thomas Ward
Yeah, true last year the American companies had a sales of 378billion in China which were not included in bilateral trade, the American can find that kind of sales in South American alrite.
哈，美国企业去年在中国的销售额为3780亿美元，这数据甚至还未包括中美双边贸易中的份额。（离开中国市场以后）美国难不成准备在南美市场中找回这些销售额吗..
ForAmerican
German telecom has just said they used CISCO before and found the backdoor 10 times since 2003. So far, they found no back door in Huawei's new equipment. NSA and CIA can not spy German anymore with Huawei equipment. No wonder the US government is trying to stop Huawei.
德国电信刚刚表示，他们之前使用过思科的通讯设备，并且自2003年起，他们已经在思科设备中发现过10次后门。而截至目前为止，他们还尚未在华为的新设备中发现任何的后门。美国国家安全局和中央情报局无法通过华为的设备监视德国了，难怪美国政府正竭尽所能地阻碍华为。
expsterm1
Yah during Obama's administration, they had to apologize to Germany for spying on them.
是啊，在奥巴马执政期间，美国政府不得不为监控德国人一事向他们道歉。
grdn rs
@ForAmerican they for real recorded my private conversation with my parents.. but couldn’t find out all the domestic terrorists who were plotting to murder innocent family and children. How utterly incompetent of the NSA.
他们录下我和父母的私人谈话时倒是得心应手，然而却无法找出那些藏身于美国境内，密谋杀害无辜的家庭和儿童的恐怖分子。NSA是有多么无能啊！
ForAmerican
@grdn rs NSA is hiring engineer to do effective search. They got too much junks in their huge data center.
NSA目前正在雇佣工程师们以实现进行有效的搜索，他们那个庞大的数据中心养了太多的废物。
Rui Zhou
Yep, that's why Huawei must be destroyed! US cannot spy the global? that is national security for sure.
是的，这就是华为必须被铲除的理由！美国无法监控整个世界？这绝对是个国家安全威胁啊。
Mac Tek
China subsidizes their company's shipping costs and puts high tariffs on imports. Nobody can compete with that.since TRUMP exposed USA deficit with CHINA, we all know all register Chinese company can ship anything into the USA free. Your gov subsidized all the shipping tax fee for you guys. This been going on for 25 years, now TRUMP called u guys out for the world to see.
中国给自己的企业提供了运输补贴，并且向进口商品征收高额关税，因此没有人能与它们竞争。自特朗普将美国对华逆差问题公之于众以来，我们所有人都知道了所有登记的中国企业能够免费地向美国运送任何的商品。你们政府为你们补贴了所有的航运税款。而且这一情况已经持续了25年，如今特朗普在全世界面前揭穿了你们的伎俩。
Shengyou Lin
Mac Tek I am running a trading company in China, but I never know we have the policy of shipping cost subsidizing. you can say something out of nothing. That is a amazing ability like your president. what a country and what a people...
我目前正在中国经营一家贸易公司，然而我怎么从来没听说过这个运费补贴政策。你真能无中生有啊。这是一种你们的总统也同样拥有的惊人的能力。多么牛掰的国家，多么不凡的总统啊...
samphorsluong
1 week ago
Lol...Huawei leading the way for 5G. And American can’t compete.
哈哈...华为正在5G技术中领先，而美国人根本无力竞争。
Andrew Flood
Lol. If the US had been subsidizing it, we would be leaps and bounds ahead of the thieving Chinese dogs. Too bad we had over 20 years of bullshit "presidents" who sold us out to the Chinese.
哈哈，如果美国也一直给自己的企业提供补贴的话，我们将迅速将那些偷东西的中国狗贼抛到脑后。可惜的是，我们过去20多年以来的那些狗屁“总统们”将我们出卖给了中国人。
Chenny Boy
@Andrew Flood don't the American people choose their presidents and people in government. Democracy not looking to hot. Lol
美国总统以及政府中的那些官员不都是美国人自己选的吗..民主主义在你眼里魅力不再了吗？哈哈
Jen Grebke
@Andrew Flood America was all about free market until the competition was even LOL
美国只会在自己占尽优势时才一个劲地鼓吹自由市场，哈哈
C Gall
china has STOLEN from EVERY Country they've dealt with, their THIEVES!Olny FOOLS Trust china.
中国从所有和他们打交道的国家那里偷取技术，他们就是小偷！只有傻子才会相信中国。
Ingo Clever
1 week ago (edited)
C Gall you should get a vacation. And try to cleanse yourself from the quarterly propaganda you ′re exposed to. And I am saying that as a German with Taiwanese Roots.
C Gall 你应该请个假，试着让自己从无所不在的宣传中脱身。 并且我还是以一位祖籍台湾的德国人的身份向你说出这番话的。
Serenelove520
One of the biggest media lies is that Huawei is state owned company. It is 100% privately owned. It is been known to be so for over a decade long before it has had the kind of success it does today. We read a lot of case studies about it long before today. Some of you need to be slapped on the face and wake up to the fact that a company can and does grow to become a phenomenal without following a beaten path set by the Wall Street standards.
美国媒体编造的最大的谎言之一便是：华为是一家国有企业。实际上它是100%的私有企业。在它去的如今这样的成就之前的十多年时间里，人们都是如此看待这家公司地。我们之前也曾阅读过很多关于它的案例研究。你们中的某些人需要被打个耳光，才能清醒地意识到一个事实：一家公司可以在不遵循华尔街标准的前提下发展成为一家卓越不凡的企业。
Finally, EVEN IF Huawei is a state owned company, God, you know how many decades the CCP has been trying to crack the problem of low efficiency involved with state run entities and that almost no tech company ever come from state majority capital? Viola, we have Huawei as a solution! A pilot project! Good for the world, don’t you think? For the hundreds of developing countries to copy this model and apply to their national economy? Sadly, Huawei is 100% privately owned. Get this in your head, people.
最后，就算华为是一家国有企业吧，天啊，你们知道共产党在数十年时间里有多么努力地想解决国有企业效率低下的问题吗？在中国几乎没有任何一家科技公司拥有国资背景。如果华为真是国有企业，那么它倒是能为这个问题提供一个解决方案！一个试点项目！这对世界都是有好处的，你们不这么认为吗?其他数百个发展中国家难道不能复制这一模式，并应用于本国的经济吗？然而遗憾的是华为是100%的私有企业。牢记这一点，伙计们。
Mina H
Whoever whatever s gonna win the 5G battle, it makes no difference at all coz this piece of tech s gonna 7x24 doing much extended harm to our health upon the complete installation with those nearby broadcasting towers. This s a loss-loss battle we are looking at rite now.
无论谁赢得了5G竞赛，对我们而言都没有任何的区别。因为一旦那些无所不在的5G信号基站安装完毕之后，这项技术会无时无刻地给我们的健康造成更大的危害。所以对我们而言，这是一场胜利无望的竞赛。
Sam Ann
So 4g Huawei no security problem 5g Huawei dangerous? Something doesn't make sense normally not true.
所以说华为的4g设备不是个安全问题，而他们的5g设备忽然就很危险了？这种缺乏逻辑的事情通常都不会是真的。
sevenor
Trump: For national security, let's ban Huawei..... never mind, the security issue can wait...for 90 more days. LMAO!!!
特朗普：为了国家安全，我们将禁止华为...算了算了，国家安全问题再拖个90天也没什么关系。笑死我了！
Cutting edge Tech, Songs,Movies Space exploration
SpaceX Starlink will provide alternative to 5G network..
SpaceX的星链计划将给大众提供一个5G网络替代选项。
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